Bush and Co. Warcrime Trial

[Aaron]

I think he's screwing up NCO and SNCO.

Thats possible for the record Junior NCOs are Cpl And Master Cpl, Senior NCOs are Sgt - Chief Warrent Officer.

[Mr Bean]

The only case they could be convicted would be a great revolution in America and a revolutionary trial is set in motion.

You can convict anyone of anything in a revolutionary court, thats the nice thing about them and the main reason you shouldn't expect justice from them.

True, and I cant help but draw parallels to the Saddam Hussein trial. Why hold his trial in Iraq, to be tried by the very people he is accused of victimizing? Hussein is an evil, ruthless dicatator who deserves to be tried and punished for his crimes, but why not turn him over to an International Criminal Tribunal, like what was done with Slobodan Milošević? I cant help but think that in an International Court of law, Hussein could have possibly won his case and that holding a trial in Iraq is the only way to guarantee a conviction.

This only bothers me because one of the reasons stated for going into Iraq was to "Spread Democracy, " one of the fundamental principles of democray the right to fair trial. Even Milošević, Ken Lay, and Nazi War Criminals all got fair trails. I find this whole situation to be hypocritical.

Slobodan did not get a fair trial, Slobodan got to hold his very own three ring media circus day in and day out and the "court" let him get away with it. He was there to drum up as much international support and attention as possible, not to acutaly defend himself aginst the charges that were placed aginst him.

But that gets back to a seperate aurgment between having Live Court TV and having a visual record of the trial aviable.

[munky99999]

I think he's screwing up NCO and SNCO.

Thats possible for the record Junior NCOs are Cpl And Master Cpl, Senior NCOs are Sgt - Chief Warrent Officer.

I actually asked this to a captain in the CF military and he told me pte-sgt are ncm but some sgt might be in a NCO position. While the warrant officers are the non-commish. officers. I dont have a clue so I'm going to actually ask a very reputable place for clarification.

[Aaron]

I actually asked this to a captain in the CF military and he told me pte-sgt are ncm but some sgt might be in a NCO position. While the warrant officers are the non-commish. officers. I dont have a clue so I'm going to actually ask a very reputable place for clarification.

You can take me at my word, I used to be a Cpl in the CF. The Captain is wrong. Pte is NCM, Cpl and Master Cpl are Junior NCOs and Sgt - Chief Warrent Officer are Senior NCOs.

[Knife]

I actually asked this to a captain in the CF military and he told me pte-sgt are ncm but some sgt might be in a NCO position. While the warrant officers are the non-commish. officers. I dont have a clue so I'm going to actually ask a very reputable place for clarification.

You can take me at my word, I used to be a Cpl in the CF. The Captain is wrong. Pte is NCM, Cpl and Master Cpl are Junior NCOs and Sgt - Chief Warrent Officer are Senior NCOs.

I have no idea how the Canuks do it, but I'll take your word on it. E-4 through E-5 are NCO's or jr. NCO's. E-6 through E-9's are considered Staff level non commisioned officers. Warrent Officers are a different breed since they have a commision via a warrent (really meaningless in the US system but it originates from the English and the King/Queen giving a dude a warrent for his commision).

[Ma Deuce]

No, it is banned by Geneva but the US didn't sign that part.

It is not banned outright by any treaty, even ones to which the US is not a signatory. And while WP is primarly used for smoke and illumination purposes, it's use as an incindiary weapon is only prohibited against civilians or military targets in close proximity to civilians acording to Protocol III of the Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons.

The only WP munitions the US has are either classified as smoke or illumination rounds, providing a convenient loophole, as Protocol III does not classify smoke and illumiation rounds as incindiaries even though they have "incidental" incindieary effects: And while the WP illumination rounds certainly could be used with great effect as incindiaries, I doubt you could actually prove in court that it was deployed specifically for incindiary purposes rather than for illumination, even if the former was in fact the case.

[Aaron]

I have no idea how the Canuks do it, but I'll take your word on it. E-4 through E-5 are NCO's or jr. NCO's. E-6 through E-9's are considered Staff level non commisioned officers. Warrent Officers are a different breed since they have a commision via a warrent (really meaningless in the US system but it originates from the English and the King/Queen giving a dude a warrent for his commision).

Well we have three levels of Pte so what would be your E-1 through E-3 would be NCMs for us.