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Ar-Adunakhor wrote:
It is entirely possible that it was D38 pre-incident, as it should have changed along with the upgrade to a Type 45.

By the way, how is the Arcadia with regards to a Marine presence? :P

[Depends on if the Arcadia is packing nukes, and if any of the Air Squadrons are USMC. If packing nukes, a platoon or two(I can't see it being more than a company) for security purposes. If any of the squadrons are Marine F/A-18s or EA-6Bs then you get the pilots plus the support crew.


If neither...you still got dribs and drabs at various places throughout the ship. (Working with the Navy CTs for signals collections, Intelligence Analysts, As an Admiral I'd probably have a Marine j.o. on my staff as an aide.)]
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I do believe that the "Undetermined third amphibious assault ship" was my Ocean-class Assault Carrier.
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As I proposed the "maximal" LHA(R) build (which was not chosen in real-life), I am going to assume three squadrons of F-35Bs, plus the organic Marine airlift. Ideally we'd have something like CH-53K and H-92, but the Superhawk might get preempted by the MV-22.
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In an effort to maintain good diplomatic ties with the global community, nuclear capability has been removed from his boat, though rumours persist that the modifications are only cosmetic.
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Uraniun235 wrote:None that I know of, which should be remedied. Captain Pick should really be in on that, though - might want to PM her regarding that. Just be sure to let me know the CO and unit size/number of Arcadia's Marine detachment.
At the moment, Admiral, I have ten 40-man platoons available for deployment throughout the fleet. I can provide you with two immediately [however, until someone signs up for the role, they'll have to be commanded by an NPC. I suggest you put up a notice calling on recruits in the OP.] I'll contact Captain Pick and and confirm it, and I've already relayed orders to have a platoon dispatched to the Indefatigable. I will also keep another two onboard the Harbinger, with the Commodore's permission, of course.

If any captain wishes a detachment for their ship from the remaining number (at present, four), relay a request, and I shall take it under advisement.
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[In regards to the state of Arclight's systems, she follows the Baseline 4 specifications.

This details the specifications of the Ticonderogas.
Baseline 4 integrates the AN/UYK-43/44 computers (in place of UYK-7 and UYK-20) with superset computer programs developed for the DDG 51. CG 65-73 have the improved UYS-20 data display system and various decision aids. All ships of the group had the SQS-53C sonar and the SQR-17 sonar data processor.
Lonestar wrote:[Depends on if the Arcadia is packing nukes, and if any of the Air Squadrons are USMC. If packing nukes, a platoon or two(I can't see it being more than a company) for security purposes. If any of the squadrons are Marine F/A-18s or EA-6Bs then you get the pilots plus the support crew.
Depending on the presence or absence of nuclear devices within the fleet, the CGs/BCGs should probably have Marine detatchments as well.]
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What the Hell, the Adventure is a pirate vessel. Might as well make it act like one.

Modifications to CG-75 Adventure
Additions: 4 grappling cables each on port and starboard sides, EMP generator, 1 company of marines (answerable directly to Captain and Master-at-arms, trained specifically in boarding operations)
Modifications: Vertical launch system removed (crew assigned to vertical launch system removed from roster), all electronic equipment is backed up and shielded from EMPs, control systems slaved to reduce crew requirements

History of Captain Marcus (Civil War Man), along with his ship, the Adventure, will be forthcoming.[/i]
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Civil War Man wrote:What the Hell, the Adventure is a pirate vessel. Might as well make it act like one.
I shall allow it. However, none of them are to wear eyepatches unless specifically prescribed by the ship's chief medical officer, for medical reasons. And see to it that they keep their rifles in good condition, and use them when appropriate; I'll hold you personally responsible if any of my men end up dead because they saw Pirates of the Caribbean Two in port and decided it would be clever to board a Chinese carrier with a scimitar or some damned thing.
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Noble Ire wrote:And see to it that they keep their rifles in good condition, and use them when appropriate
Okay, you obviously didn't see the Code of Conduct for the Adventure in the last thread, because basically failure to properly maintain ones arms (including the 50 cals or the 5-inchers, if assigned to them) is typically punished by flogging.

Also, they won't necessarily be drawn from your marines. Captain Marcus is a salty cad, a scourge of the Seven Seas. Pirates be clamouring to be on his crew.
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The only problem with the removal of the VLS is that your ship is now incapable of self-defense, and most importantly, defending my carrier!
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Civil War Man wrote:What the Hell, the Adventure is a pirate vessel. Might as well make it act like one.

Modifications to CG-75 Adventure
Additions: 4 grappling cables each on port and starboard sides, EMP generator, 1 company of marines (answerable directly to Captain and Master-at-arms, trained specifically in boarding operations)
Modifications: Vertical launch system removed (crew assigned to vertical launch system removed from roster), all electronic equipment is backed up and shielded from EMPs, control systems slaved to reduce crew requirements

History of Captain Marcus (Civil War Man), along with his ship, the Adventure, will be forthcoming.[/i]

Jesus Christ! Where are you gonna put them? Where the VLS used to be? Even that there would never be enough room, unless you get rid of all the racks and lockers in berthing and go straight to hammocks.


For what it's worth, the Bunker Hill's Visit, Board, Search, Seizure team didn't have more than 30 people, and all of them were ship's Crew who went to special schools.


Of course, with no VLS your CG is basically a huge sitting two-gun target...but hey. that's the ESG's concern, not me. :P
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Lonestar wrote:Jesus Christ! Where are you gonna put them? Where the VLS used to be? Even that there would never be enough room, unless you get rid of all the racks and lockers in berthing and go straight to hammocks.
Well, without a VLS and the crew to operate it (and a minimized crew due to "heavy automation" like he wanted) he should have the room.
Lonestar wrote:For what it's worth, the Bunker Hill's Visit, Board, Search, Seizure team didn't have more than 30 people, and all of them were ship's Crew who went to special schools.
I still have to agree with the RDML, here. I think two platoons would be more than enough. You could probably get by with an augmented platoon.
Lonestar wrote:Of course, with no VLS your CG is basically a huge sitting two-gun target...but hey. that's the ESG's concern, not me. :P
I really have to agree with the RDML here, you are basically just dead weight. You will be utterly destroyed long before you get within boarding range. The only way you could have a chance, as I see it, would be to modify a submarine to be super-stealthy and pop up next to them. Even if you did that, though, the enemy commander would just have any ships near the one you are attacking train their guns on you and blast away.

[OOC: You are so fucking screwed. The only way this would be viable would be if you could teleport onto the enemy ships, and if you could do that... well just teleport over a warhead instead. Not only that, but your EMP device could wipe our entire fleet if it malfunctioned, and without missiles your Cruiser is as only really useful for the AEGIS system. I don't want to stop you from having fun, of course, but perhaps you could downgrade to DD and let someone else have the CG? It would help the fleet and let you get a faster and less bulky ship for your boarding runs.]

In other news, several ship specifications have been updated, and others are still being worked on.
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Ar-Adunakhor wrote:
Well, without a VLS and the crew to operate it (and a minimized crew due to "heavy automation" like he wanted) he should have the room.
[Alright, so minus 30 odd FC's and GMs, plus (let's say) 10 OS's, plus another 20 engineers (from the "Smart ship" upgrade)....

Minus the Air Det you now have a crew of 290 or so.

But now you have to add personnel for these EMP generators (I guess the existing SLQ-32 and SPLITROCK/RUBICON systems aren't good enough). So that's another division worth of people (20 or so). Pluss you want to add a company so that's...what, a Hundred?

So now we're at 410 people...without the 40-odd Air Detachment.


Of course, we got a lot of deadwood with the AEGIS system and related personnel. After all, no VLS no reason to have the SPY-1, right? We can just keep the -49. So we remove the SPY equipment, plus the personnel.


So now we have a superstructure that makes no damn sense...let's see...chop off the top two levels and we get...

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[Random Update: I have decided on a battle theme for the ESG: One Winged Angel, from Final Fantasy VII. Sorry that it's in a YTMND; that's the only good version I could find online. Just ignore the man in face paint.]
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Out of (wild, insane) curiosity, would it be at all feasible to, say, stick a Hind Mi-24 helicopter on Adventure and use the helicopter for boarding operations, rather than try and use a cruiser to board enemy ships in the heat of combat?

Either way, I'm afraid I'm going to have to veto the proposed modifications to Adventure; the ship simply wasn't meant for what's been proposed.
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Uraniun235 wrote:Out of (wild, insane) curiosity, would it be at all feasible to, say, stick a Hind Mi-24 helicopter on Adventure and use the helicopter for boarding operations, rather than try and use a cruiser to board enemy ships in the heat of combat?
You could, but I think you would only be able to fit one. and have to attach stuff to the wings on the flight deck. I think it would be more practical to stick with the two MH-60s.
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Captain Fly, what is the name of your country and does it have an official maritime branch of its armed forces?
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Lonestar wrote:Welcome Aboard, DD 75 Adventure! :)
I know I already said it earlier, but I have to emphasize the point. Switching to a DD for this kind of action would be better all around. Plus, we need one anyway.

With regards to fleet buisiness, RDML Rebikov, Commodore Vianor Kurilov reporting for duty. [Backstory shall follow after we recieve our world layout.]
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To do boarding operations with a surface vessel would be suicidal. Once you are in gun range of your target say goodbye to your sorry ass. As Uraniun has suggested a helicopter would be much more feasable. However the Adventure cant carry enough to make it work. Much better to use one of our assault ships, like my Renown, and having ~12 choppers to do the jop.
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Fine, fine. No need to jump all over me about it. I'm not exactly an expert on this subject matter.

I've been trying to think of some way to screw around with it. But you know what? Fuck it. Screw being an honorable pirate. As Captain Barbossa said, "People are easier to search when their dead."

Delete the modifications. At most, I'm going to have to think about adding some kind of salvage sub so I can pick clean the corpses of my enemies.

Of course, that means I'll have to modify my Code. Take out all that parlay crap.

Though, on request, I will take the open Destroyer. Rename the CG-75 to whatever.

But no way in Hell I'm going to command a ship called Dewey, it is now the Vengeance.
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I want a parrot :(.
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How about an undead monkey?
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No, it might have undead rabies.
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Don't be silly. The undead can't contract rabies.

Anyway, here's the updated code
Code of Conduct for the Pirate ship Vengeance wrote:I. The Captain shall receive two full shares of all prizes. The Master-at-arms, Boatswain, Quartermaster, and Mate one share and one half. All other officers one share and one quarter.

II. All in the company have equal title to fresh provisions, water, or spirits unless a scarcity makes it necessary to enact a retrenchment.

III. Any man who deserts his post, or is otherwise found guilty of cowardice during an engagement, shall be marooned with a full canteen of water and a loaded sidearm.

IV. Defrauding any member of the Company shall result in the same punishment as the previous article, unless it is the wish of the offended to lessen this sentence.

V. Any man who fails to keep his arms fit for an engagement (including all shipboard weapons he is assigned to) shall be cut off from his share, and suffer further punishment as the Captain and crew deem fit.

VI. No striking another while on board. All quarrels, if they cannot be reconciled, shall be ended on shore. Violators of this article shall receive Mose's Law (40 lashes minus one) on the back.

VII. Any man severely injured in an engagement shall be recompensed for their service, and may remain onboard as long as health and desire permit them to do so. Should he wish to leave, he will be dropped at a port of his choosing.

VIII. No captives are to be taken, unless by order of the Captain.
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