[Revote] Amendment to the Nomination Rules

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Adopt the following proposal?

Yea
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Nay
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[Revote] Amendment to the Nomination Rules

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According to the previous thread, here is the proposal, as put forward by the hon. CmdrWilkens:
Resolved that the segment of rule 2 ("One Senator, One Vote') reading "Who can nominate - Only Senators (no Governors, Chancellor, Executors or Emperor)" shall be changed to read as follows:

"Who can nominate - Every Senate member except the Chancellor"
I have recreated the poll, since it apparently closed too early for many honorable Senators to vote.

(Note: I did, in fact, vote in favor.)
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Aye, I'm all for this, still. :D
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Yes, amend it.

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Yea
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Yes indeed (which I suppose would be obvious given that I forwarded the motion).
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Yea.
Something about Libertarianism always bothered me. Then one day, I realized what it was:
Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."


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In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around!

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Yea, amend it.
Via money Europe could become political in five years" "... the current communities should be completed by a Finance Common Market which would lead us to European economic unity. Only then would ... the mutual commitments make it fairly easy to produce the political union which is the goal"

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Yep.
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Aye.
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Yeah.

What could possibly go wrong?
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Aye.
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Mad wrote:Yeah.

What could possibly go wrong?
Shhh! Your check is in the mail!
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Zaia wrote:
Mad wrote:Yeah.

What could possibly go wrong?
Shhh! Your check is in the mail!
They're in the mail? Good; I was thinking you guys hadn't sent them yet.
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Zaia wrote:
Mad wrote:Yeah.

What could possibly go wrong?
Shhh! Your check is in the mail!
If mine isn't enough to make my eyes bulge I'll be dissappointed
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The Senator from his exile in Darkest Jesustan votes "Yea".
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Would whoever voted against it come forward and state your reasons? I went back to re-read the thread where we discussed this and didn't see anyone really stating much against it, so I'm curious as to why you would vote no.
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Aye. Can we tack on a pay raise as well?
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Sure, and we want daily bribes now. Monthly is no longer sufficent.
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Zaia wrote:Shhh! Your check is in the mail!
Well, my mail not arriving is certainly something that could go wrong and I should check into making sure that doesn't happen.

Uh, that is... I am appalled--insulted, even--that you think I would accept bribe while completely sober. I mean, after a few drinks and a cab ride home I'm sure my judgement could be altered, but while sober? How am I supposed to have plausible deniability? Or does this check include a mark up to take that into account that the others haven't?
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Durandal wrote:Aye. Can we tack on a pay raise as well?
Oh, please; you guys want a pay raise? Isn't conspiring behind closed doors to oppress the feeble masses enough?
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Durandal wrote:Aye. Can we tack on a pay raise as well?
I want at least triple what I'm getting now.
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Zaia wrote:Would whoever voted against it come forward and state your reasons? I went back to re-read the thread where we discussed this and didn't see anyone really stating much against it, so I'm curious as to why you would vote no.
I would respectfully submit that whoever voted no is more than fully entitled to have their reasons as their own without disclosing them to us. We don't have to have unanimity and I think its just trying too hard to go after it.
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CmdrWilkens wrote:I would respectfully submit that whoever voted no is more than fully entitled to have their reasons as their own without disclosing them to us. We don't have to have unanimity and I think its just trying too hard to go after it.
While that is true, the fact that a member of the Senate has voted "no" means that member has a reason to be apprehensive about the proposal. This reason may have been overlooked by those who have voted, and thus may merit consideration.

I doubt the request for disclosure was about unanimity so much as ensuring an informed decision process.
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Mad wrote:
CmdrWilkens wrote:I would respectfully submit that whoever voted no is more than fully entitled to have their reasons as their own without disclosing them to us. We don't have to have unanimity and I think its just trying too hard to go after it.
While that is true, the fact that a member of the Senate has voted "no" means that member has a reason to be apprehensive about the proposal. This reason may have been overlooked by those who have voted, and thus may merit consideration.

I doubt the request for disclosure was about unanimity so much as ensuring an informed decision process.
This place is not a rubberstamp. Nobody is going to be punished for having an opinion different from the majority, and Mad does have a good point.

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CmdrWilkens wrote:I would respectfully submit that whoever voted no is more than fully entitled to have their reasons as their own without disclosing them to us. We don't have to have unanimity and I think its just trying too hard to go after it.
I was looking for an explanation as to the votes against because no one brought up any reasons to be against it previously in the discussion thread, Greg. I was hoping they would voice their concerns so we could address them.
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