Ultimate Star Wars vs Star Trek Movie

phred · Post by **phred** » 2006-07-22 07:16am

how can anyone vote for the galaxy over the soveriegn? the only advantage the galaxy has over the sovereign is internal space... which i guess would make it a disadvantage in such a one sided fight

Batman · Post by **Batman** » 2006-07-22 08:28am

I suggest you reread the OP. The question is not which ship has the slightly less inexistant chance of survival, but which one do you want to see.
Even if you simply like the viuals of the Galaxy over the Sovereign that's a perfectly valid reason to prefer the Galaxy (I, personally, consider the Sovereign butt-ugly for example). Especially as both die on the first hit, anyway.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2006-07-22 09:19am

Lord Poe wrote:Uh, hey gents, just in case anyone's forgotten:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAF3HhX0K_8

You just can't help the blatent plugs for your work, can you Wayne? Anyway, how long do you think it will be before the Rabid Stupid Asshole makes his "rebuttal" to this project ie, blatent copying and reversal of making the Trek shuttle destroy the Executor with one shot?

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2006-07-22 10:05am

phred wrote:how can anyone vote for the galaxy over the soveriegn? the only advantage the galaxy has over the sovereign is internal space... which i guess would make it a disadvantage in such a one sided fight

Phil Skayhan and I are planning a SW vs ST machinima movie, about 5 minutes long. Which Federation ship do you want to see a Star Destroyer duke it out with?

English, Motherfucker, do you understand it?

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2006-07-22 10:55am

Darth Servo wrote:You just can't help the blatent plugs for your work, can you Wayne? Anyway, how long do you think it will be before the Rabid Stupid Asshole makes his "rebuttal" to this project ie, blatent copying and reversal of making the Trek shuttle destroy the Executor with one shot?

I'm pretty safe. His website has ground to a halt as he struggles to write that SW vs ST fanfic to counter Mike's that he announced quite a while back! His visual skills leave a lot to be desired; he tried making an "answer video" to the first "Trek Miss" which resulted in him being laughed at by SW AND ST fans!

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2006-07-22 11:02am

Lord Poe wrote:I'm pretty safe. His website has ground to a halt as he struggles to write that SW vs ST fanfic to counter Mike's that he announced quite a while back!

Sound's like Virus X's claims of having an anti-SD.net website 90% completed for the last 10 or so years.

His visual skills leave a lot to be desired; he tried making an "answer video" to the first "Trek Miss" which resulted in him being laughed at by SW AND ST fans!

Why do I always miss the best scooter humiliations? Didn't he actually defend that P.O.S. by saying he never knew any Trekkies who tried to claim Trek ships never miss?

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2006-07-22 11:19am

Darth Servo wrote:
Lord Poe wrote:I'm pretty safe. His website has ground to a halt as he struggles to write that SW vs ST fanfic to counter Mike's that he announced quite a while back!
Sound's like Virus X's claims of having an anti-SD.net website 90% completed for the last 10 or so years.

Don't worry... Scoot announced it about 8 months ago. He'll be done soon!

Why do I always miss the best scooter humiliations? Didn't he actually defend that P.O.S. by saying he never knew any Trekkies who tried to claim Trek ships never miss?

Yup. Here, relive the magic!

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2006-07-22 12:24pm

I like the look fo the Soverign better, but the Galaxy is more readily recognized, thus giving this movie broader appeal. Further, I would think it would be easier to model. So I'll go with that.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2006-07-22 12:26pm

Lord Poe wrote:
Darth Servo wrote:
Lord Poe wrote:I'm pretty safe. His website has ground to a halt as he struggles to write that SW vs ST fanfic to counter Mike's that he announced quite a while back!
Sound's like Virus X's claims of having an anti-SD.net website 90% completed for the last 10 or so years.
Don't worry... Scoot announced it about 8 months ago. He'll be done soon!

You know, laws of irony being what they are, it could end up that he can write. Afterall, the universe has to provide some kind of compensation for everything else that he is stuck with.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2006-07-22 01:03pm

Ender wrote: You know, laws of irony being what they are, it could end up that he can write. Afterall, the universe has to provide some kind of compensation for everything else that he is stuck with.

I don't understand why he's not done yet. Eight months for a couple chapters of

-'Turbolasers bounced off the Navigation Shields'

and

-'Transporter is locked on the Imperial Commander, sir."

-'Excellent, beam him out and beam in the armed photon torpeado.'

You'd figure even with his left hand down his shorts, he could have one handed typed that out by now.

Bounty · Post by **Bounty** » 2006-07-22 01:08pm

Knife wrote:
Ender wrote: You know, laws of irony being what they are, it could end up that he can write. Afterall, the universe has to provide some kind of compensation for everything else that he is stuck with.
I don't understand why he's not done yet. Eight months for a couple chapters of

-'Turbolasers bounced off the Navigation Shields'

and

-'Transporter is locked on the Imperial Commander, sir."

-'Excellent, beam him out and beam in the armed photon torpeado.'

You'd figure even with his left hand down his shorts, he could have one handed typed that out by now.

I really wonder why anyone would bastardize the art of writing just to prove his side would win. It's one thing to make a fanfic - even a crossover one - because you like the characters or setting and have a story to tell, but how the hell can you write a compelling narrative when your goal isn't to make a story but a pamphlet?

You'll just end up describing in detail how your side is better and your audience will know from the very first chapter who is going to win and why - all that's left to do is show just how glorious your side's victory is. Why anyone would waste time on that...

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2006-07-22 01:11pm

Bounty wrote:
I really wonder why anyone would bastardize the art of writing just to prove his side would win. It's one thing to make a fanfic - even a crossover one - because you like the characters or setting and have a story to tell, but how the hell can you write a compelling narrative when your goal isn't to make a story but a pamphlet?

You'll just end up describing in detail how your side is better and your audience will know from the very first chapter who is going to win and why - all that's left to do is show just how glorious your side's victory is. Why anyone would waste time on that...

People with ego's bigger than their abilities. Why make an article cementing your own error about something as trivial as 3 million clones.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2006-07-22 01:11pm

Bounty wrote:
Knife wrote:
Ender wrote: You know, laws of irony being what they are, it could end up that he can write. Afterall, the universe has to provide some kind of compensation for everything else that he is stuck with.
I don't understand why he's not done yet. Eight months for a couple chapters of

-'Turbolasers bounced off the Navigation Shields'

and

-'Transporter is locked on the Imperial Commander, sir."

-'Excellent, beam him out and beam in the armed photon torpeado.'

You'd figure even with his left hand down his shorts, he could have one handed typed that out by now.
I really wonder why anyone would bastardize the art of writing just to prove his side would win. It's one thing to make a fanfic - even a crossover one - because you like the characters or setting and have a story to tell, but how the hell can you write a compelling narrative when your goal isn't to make a story but a pamphlet?

You'll just end up describing in detail how your side is better and your audience will know from the very first chapter who is going to win and why - all that's left to do is show just how glorious your side's victory is. Why anyone would waste time on that...

You've read Graham Kennedy's work then

?

Literally that thing is a perfect example of what happens when only one hand is on the keyboard.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2006-07-22 01:12pm

Ghost Rider wrote:
You've read Graham Kennedy's work then ?

Literally that thing is a perfect example of what happens when only one hand is on the keyboard.

I don't think many have actually read it, perhaps a chapter or two. The pain was horrible.....

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2006-07-22 01:14pm

Knife wrote:
Ghost Rider wrote:
You've read Graham Kennedy's work then ?

Literally that thing is a perfect example of what happens when only one hand is on the keyboard.
I don't think many have actually read it, perhaps a chapter or two. The pain was horrible.....

Portal, I assume?

Bounty · Post by **Bounty** » 2006-07-22 01:16pm

Knife wrote:
Ghost Rider wrote:
You've read Graham Kennedy's work then ?

Literally that thing is a perfect example of what happens when only one hand is on the keyboard.
I don't think many have actually read it, perhaps a chapter or two. The pain was horrible.....

I've read the whole thing. I like the man's site, bless his heart, but he cannot write an interesting story if his life depended on it. "Look, thousands more ISD's pouring in! Now we're slightly in danger!" - regardless of the whole VS debate, nerfing your enemy to the point where they only pose a vague threat is not the way to keep your fic readable.

And he appears to have a phobia of descriptive text.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2006-07-22 01:21pm

Bounty wrote:
I've read the whole thing. I like the man's site, bless his heart, but he cannot write an interesting story if his life depended on it. "Look, thousands more ISD's pouring in! Now we're slightly in danger!" - regardless of the whole VS debate, nerfing your enemy to the point where they only pose a vague threat is not the way to keep your fic readable.

And he appears to have a phobia of descriptive text.

Meh, as fansites go, it's ok. EAS is better for trek related stuff. But the man is born to write stereo directions, not fanfics nor actual storys.

Elheru Aran · Post by **Elheru Aran** » 2006-07-22 01:22pm

Could be worse.

Pulling this out of my ass in five minutes I wrote: Six Starfleet craft suddenly warped in above the ISD Vainglorious Fudgepacker.

Captain Istvaan looked up from his cup of tanna and arched his eyebrow at his second-in-command, Briggs, and inquired archly, "I thought we had destroyed the Starfleet?"

"Sir, we must've missed a few. Shall I tell the fore quadrant gunners that they have some more target practice ahead?"

Istvaan sniffed and lifted his pinkie as he sipped his tea delicately; Briggs gave the appropriate orders.

Seconds later, furious green lances darted forth from the Star Destroyer's nose; six explosions of plasma later, Istvaan spilled some tea upon his uniform as a futile photon torpedo piffled against the bridge shields.

See?

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2006-07-22 01:24pm

On the flipside there was Kaz's work. Both it and Portal are really just bad stories no matter how one cuts it, and honestly you gotta wonder why did either of them write their respective fics.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2006-07-22 01:41pm

Elheru Aran wrote:Could be worse.

Pulling this out of my ass in five minutes I wrote: Six Starfleet craft suddenly warped in above the ISD Vainglorious Fudgepacker.

Captain Istvaan looked up from his cup of tanna and arched his eyebrow at his second-in-command, Briggs, and inquired archly, "I thought we had destroyed the Starfleet?"

"Sir, we must've missed a few. Shall I tell the fore quadrant gunners that they have some more target practice ahead?"

Istvaan sniffed and lifted his pinkie as he sipped his tea delicately; Briggs gave the appropriate orders.

Seconds later, furious green lances darted forth from the Star Destroyer's nose; six explosions of plasma later, Istvaan spilled some tea upon his uniform as a futile photon torpedo piffled against the bridge shields.
See?

But the firepower figures are accurate!!!1

Marko Dash · Post by **Marko Dash** » 2006-07-22 02:50pm

I was able to get through halve of portal, before the sheer stupidity of it made me stop. Having done that I wish to see it from the other side, but a have not been able to find a link or copy of star destroy rampant anywhere. anybody have it stashed somewhere?

OmegaGuy · Post by **OmegaGuy** » 2006-07-22 04:07pm

I like the test footage, I recognize the 'saber spin' tactic from Jedi Outcast (open up the console during gameplay and type 'taunt').

Funny thing is if you do it with your lightsaber activated by all rights you should be mincemeat, but you're unharmed.

phred · Post by **phred** » 2006-07-22 08:14pm

Ghost Rider wrote:
phred wrote:how can anyone vote for the galaxy over the soveriegn? the only advantage the galaxy has over the sovereign is internal space... which i guess would make it a disadvantage in such a one sided fight

Phil Skayhan and I are planning a SW vs ST machinima movie, about 5 minutes long. Which Federation ship do you want to see a Star Destroyer duke it out with?
English, Motherfucker, do you understand it?

all apologies sir. my reading comprehension sorta dies at somewhere around 22 hours without sleep.
that being said i still like the sovereign better, even if its only purpose for being there is to suddenly explode.

Shadowtraveler · Post by **Shadowtraveler** » 2006-07-23 12:04am

phred wrote:how can anyone vote for the galaxy over the soveriegn? the only advantage the galaxy has over the sovereign is internal space... which i guess would make it a disadvantage in such a one sided fight

It's symbolic. The Enterprise-D vs. an ISD is the original versus debate. Sure the Sovereign might be a better ship, but it isn't as recognizable or as widely renowned as the good ol' Galaxy-class.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2006-07-23 12:34am

Lord Poe wrote:Don't worry... Scoot announced it about 8 months ago. He'll be done soon!

Wow.

scooter wrote: It's probably going to suck given my complete inexperience, but I'm thinking it might be a fun exercise all the same. I'll let you know how it goes.

Scooter actually admits he sucks!!!

Why do I always miss the best scooter humiliations? Didn't he actually defend that P.O.S. by saying he never knew any Trekkies who tried to claim Trek ships never miss?

Yup. Here,

Well, thats the excuses, not the smackdown though.

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