Star Trek "Discovered" by Old Republic

[warpusher]

We all know what happens if the Imps ever got their BDZ hands on the Star Trek Galaxy...but what do you think would happen if it was the Old Republic that found them.

Would the Senate open some type of negotiations? Would factions (Trade Federation) seeking to make credits begin a lucrative trade in Tech? Would Star Trek Civilizations like the Federation eventually join the Republic. Would the Supreme Chancellor eventually say that the Senator from the United Federation of Planets is recognized.

What of the Jedi? Would Star Trek Civs use them to solve disputes and maintain order? How would Star trek Civs react to Jedi? Would there be a mountainous pile of Klingon arms from countless challenges as to who's the better warrior? Would Vulcans finally show emotion at the sheer amount of new knowledge to be learned?

Would The Old Republic abolish use of the transporter?

How would they deal with the Borg? Would they send Jedi? What if in the conflict a Padawan clumsilly lets a drone get close and gets hit? Do we get Jedi-Borg? Or would inner strength w/ the force be able to defeat Borg Juice (AKA West end games Jedi Power detoxify poison)?

How would Citzens of the Republic take in the Star Trek country bumpkins...Would Wookie Vs. Klingon become the Old Republic version of Ultimate Fighting Championship? Would the Hutts make the Ferengi a deal they can't refuse?

Finally, what of Star Trek citezens? Would the Jedi recruiting services eventually find Romulan, cardassian, shapeshifting founder padawan candidates?

Let me know what you think.

[Knife]

I'm unsure how the Republic would have handled or dealt with the new Galaxy. However, there are plenty of enities within the SW galaxy that would gleefully go into the ST galaxy and carve out an empire there. The Trade Federation would be in there in a second making the Feringi look noble. And lets not even get into the organized crime lords like the Hutts would do with fresh space.

The ST galaxy would be pillaged like the New World was, wheter or not it was sanctioned by goverments. New space, new land, new resources and a chance to start your own fiefdom.

[Pax Britannia]

It would certainly be interesting. The federation has always been very big on unifying all species under THEIR control. If an even larger galactic body came along like the Old Republic and offered them membership I dont think they would be very quick to accept.

[Darth Lucifer]

Would The Old Republic abolish use of the transporter?

I would think so, based on what I know of the SW universe.

How would they deal with the Borg?

Set turbolasers to minimal firepower...

Would they send Jedi? What if in the conflict a Padawan clumsilly lets a drone get close and gets hit? Do we get Jedi-Borg? Or would inner strength w/ the force be able to defeat Borg Juice (AKA West end games Jedi Power detoxify poison)?

Borg Juice?? You mean nanoprobes, I take it. Did WEG Star Wars clarify further on this ability you mention?

How would Citzens of the Republic take in the Star Trek country bumpkins...Would Wookie Vs. Klingon become the Old Republic version of Ultimate Fighting Championship?

More like Godzilla vs. Bambi.

Would the Hutts make the Ferengi a deal they can't refuse?

Or vice versa? Ferengi have trade bait as well as shrewd businessmen.

Finally, what of Star Trek citezens? Would the Jedi recruiting services eventually find Romulan, cardassian, shapeshifting founder padawan candidates?

I don't see why they would be excluded apart from not being members of the Republic. I would think that would be a prerequisite.

[Admiral Johnason]

When you say Old Republic, how far back are we going here? Are We talking Tales of the Jedi old or just the prequals?

[Solauren]

It would also depends on the method of contact, and who makes it.

By Old Republic, that's alot of time, territory and factions.

The Old Republic itself? Someone other faction within it? And what time period?
Are we talking Wormhole? Making it to the galaxy after a hyperjump?

[Spanky The Dolphin]

When you say Old Republic, how far back are we going here? Are We talking Tales of the Jedi old or just the prequals?

Technology-wise, it wouldn't really matter, even if it were back at the founding of the Republic.

[Noble Ire]

When you say Old Republic, how far back are we going here? Are We talking Tales of the Jedi old or just the prequals?

Technology-wise, it wouldn't really matter, even if it were back at the founding of the Republic.

That might not be true; the state of weapons and starship technology before around 6,000 BBY is largely unknown. It is possible that at some point, Republican technology was less than a match for that of the Federation. However, due to technological stasis and the observed effect of weapon systems in the OR comics and KOTOR, starting after the Tales era, it wouldn't matter.

[RedImperator]

Depends on the Old Republic era. If we're at the time of the prequels, you have a republic which is so impotent it can't prevent one member from blockading and invading another. The Milky Way will get raped hard by whoever's the most ruthless, and the Republic won't lift a finger to help them.

[warpusher]

Here are some clarifications:

Detoxify poison from WEG games (and from what I can remember...I don't have all my old books here in Iraq) was a power that enabled those with it to basically do what is said. Mild poisons were like alcohol. If you were strong with the force, you could take in hardcore chemical agents (EG nerve gas) and not be affected.

In TPM it is shown when Obi and Qui-Gon walk out of the room that is full of some type of highly deadly (in the Trade feds minds) nerve gas. They were not using their resperators, and were able to live in an area to my eyes 100% filled with gas. They did not have masks, hoods, chemical suits on either.

Thus I would believe that somewhere in the force this is an ability. Now would they be able to detoxify "Borg Juice"? (thanks Mario1470 for reminding me of the real name)

For clarification on the "Old Republic":

Lets say that it is indeed just Prior to TPM (minus 20 years for clarification). This way most of teh TPM tech can be assumed to be in existance. The method of contact is via wormhole, that is stable (AKA Mr. Wong's version). How would the discovery of an untapped galaxy have changed/prevented the activities of TPM. How could it have possibly expanded the prequels?

Would clones be different because Jango Fett is too busy making millions taking Borg pelts? What if Anakin and Shimi are sold off and taken over to the ST galaxy, make their way to fed space and are freed? Would Anakin be corrupted by ST "ideals and virtues"? Would he and Wesley be pals at the academy? Would the Trade Fed have found a way to buy some surplus borg cubes from the "pacification" and used these to store battledroids? Could they get over their fear of the transporter for inatimate objects without souls? Suddenly they have the ability to transport destroyer droids whereever they want?

Would SW eventually turn transporters into weapons? Moral problems aside, it would be a quick and dirty solution to Jedi. They get on the ship, lock on to them, send them to deep space, inside a rock, etc etc.

Would Palpatine have chosen an even remoter backwater planet than Naboo to begin his scheming? Bajor? How would these supersticious people with all their prophet mumbo-jumbo react to a Dark Lord of the Sith?

How would the sudden influx through trade of SW tech affect ST? Would old scores (like Klingon Vs Romulan) be settled? Would BOP's and Klingon battlecruisers be hasily equipped with Turbolasers and slow and clunky (to SW) hyperdrives and then dispatched to try to BDZ Romulus? Would the dominion come back for round #2 via hyperdrive straight to earth?

[Balrog]

Lets say that it is indeed just Prior to TPM (minus 20 years for clarification). This way most of teh TPM tech can be assumed to be in existance. The method of contact is via wormhole, that is stable (AKA Mr. Wong's version). How would the discovery of an untapped galaxy have changed/prevented the activities of TPM. How could it have possibly expanded the prequels?

As others have said, the Old Republic will be too weak to prevent Tom, Dick and Hagnar from going out to carve their own little fiefdoms in the Trek galaxy. Major corporations like the TF drop the whole "stop taxing us!" thing and just start setting up shop with the Trek powers, negotiating 'special deals' to sell their goods at much higher prices and make a tidy profit. And Palpatine has a field day when he learns there's a whole other galaxy for him to take over.

[Spanky The Dolphin]

When you say Old Republic, how far back are we going here? Are We talking Tales of the Jedi old or just the prequals?

Technology-wise, it wouldn't really matter, even if it were back at the founding of the Republic.

That might not be true; the state of weapons and starship technology before around 6,000 BBY is largely unknown. It is possible that at some point, Republican technology was less than a match for that of the Federation. However, due to technological stasis and the observed effect of weapon systems in the OR comics and KOTOR, starting after the Tales era, it wouldn't matter.

25,000 years isn't that much compared to 500,000, which is how far advanced Star Wars is compared to us and Star Trek.

[Shadowtraveler]

It's still pretty far back. Hell, a few centuries before the Republic was formed, Xim the Despot's armies were using the first blasters, which were rather big and clunky. Now they're the size of slugthrowers. Hyperdrive wasn't nearly as reliable at the begining millenia of the Republic as it is now, and so on and so forth.

SW may be "stagnent", but there's been noticable progress.

[Qwerty 42]

It's still pretty far back. Hell, a few centuries before the Republic was formed, Xim the Despot's armies were using the first blasters, which were rather big and clunky. Now they're the size of slugthrowers. Hyperdrive wasn't nearly as reliable at the begining millenia of the Republic as it is now, and so on and so forth.

SW may be "stagnent", but there's been noticable progress.

Outbound Flight also mentions that the Old Republic had not yet worked out interdiction fields as late. as 5 years before the start of the Clone Wars.

[Noble Ire]

It's still pretty far back. Hell, a few centuries before the Republic was formed, Xim the Despot's armies were using the first blasters, which were rather big and clunky. Now they're the size of slugthrowers. Hyperdrive wasn't nearly as reliable at the begining millenia of the Republic as it is now, and so on and so forth.

SW may be "stagnent", but there's been noticable progress.

Outbound Flight also mentions that the Old Republic had not yet worked out interdiction fields as late. as 5 years before the start of the Clone Wars.

The Republic had Interdictors as early as the Mandalorian Wars, around 4,000 BBY.

25,000 years isn't that much compared to 500,000, which is how far advanced Star Wars is compared to us and Star Trek.

Where are you getting that? Pre-Republican galactic civilization is only 30,000 years old, tops, barring the ancient race like the Kwa and Rakata. True, some species, like humans and Duros, may have had space flight for a few thousand years before that, but I doubt it was that long.

[Spanky The Dolphin]

25,000 years isn't that much compared to 500,000, which is how far advanced Star Wars is compared to us and Star Trek.

Where are you getting that? Pre-Republican galactic civilization is only 30,000 years old, tops, barring the ancient race like the Kwa and Rakata. True, some species, like humans and Duros, may have had space flight for a few thousand years before that, but I doubt it was that long.

The Devaronians are cited with developing interstellar space travel 500,000 years ago. That would serve as a general benchmark for the rest of the Galaxy as a whole.

[Spanky The Dolphin]

Not to mention that planets like Coruscant and Alderaan were colonised for about 100,000 years each. Though both are in the Core, remember that they're not on the same side of the Galaxy.

[Noble Ire]

25,000 years isn't that much compared to 500,000, which is how far advanced Star Wars is compared to us and Star Trek.

Where are you getting that? Pre-Republican galactic civilization is only 30,000 years old, tops, barring the ancient race like the Kwa and Rakata. True, some species, like humans and Duros, may have had space flight for a few thousand years before that, but I doubt it was that long.

The Devaronians are cited with developing interstellar space travel 500,000 years ago. That would serve as a general benchmark for the rest of the Galaxy as a whole.

Not necessarily. KOTOR and the new Chronology indicate that FTL travel was only introduced to the galaxy as a whole after the collapse of the Rakatan Empire, a little before 25,000 BBY. The Devaronians might have developed the technology by themselves before that point, but if they did, they didn't share it with many others species.

Not to mention that planets like Coruscant and Alderaan were colonised for about 100,000 years each. Though both are in the Core, remember that they're not on the same side of the Galaxy.

There was a planetary city on Coruscant by that point, but that does not mean that whatever civilization controlled it had FTL. Coruscant was host to at least one surviving native species (possibly humans, even if that is unlikely). Alderaan could have been colonized by sleeper vessels, as other planets were (the Duro used that method extensively, and it might explain the profusion of human sub-species: they were ancient sleeper colonies).

[Spanky The Dolphin]

God damn it, fuck KOTOR. Fuck it and the retarded D&D monkeys who vomited it into the world and ruined the chronology.

[Noble Ire]

God damn it, fuck KOTOR. Fuck it and the retarded D&D monkeys who vomited it into the world and ruined the chronology.

It goes against, what, two or three old sources in regards to chronology? That's a price I'm glad to pay, taking into consideration the quality of the series. Besides, it's not like the situation is that hard to reconcile (and it makes explaining the existance of distinctive human sub-species far easier, if indirectly).

[Spanky The Dolphin]

I'm going to be curt: It's a minimalist magic bullet that ignores established history and setting.

[Admiral Johnason]

Serious question about KOTOR, weren't almost all of the Jedi wiped out by the time of the sequal?

[The Grim Squeaker]

Serious question about KOTOR, weren't almost all of the Jedi wiped out by the time of the sequal?

Correct, so many Jedi had gone over to the Sith before the original Kotor and the destruction of The Academy on Dantooine devastated the order (Although the temple on Coruscant did exist at this point, but it was apparently far smaller).
This in addition to the losses caused during the Sith war years back caused the deaths of a large majority of the jedi, with many going into hiding (The jedi masters in Kotor 2 for example) with Jedi presence on the outer rim being almost totally extuinguished.
In addition during Kotor 2 the remaining Sith lords had continued hunting down any Jedi and large bounties had been placed for Jedi "heads" (Contributing to the Decimation (over 90% ) of the few jedi who had remained in the rim ).

[Invictus ChiKen]

I'm going to be curt: It's a minimalist magic bullet that ignores established history and setting.

Okay so how is it a magic bullet that screws with everything?

[Stofsk]

God damn it, fuck KOTOR. Fuck it and the retarded D&D monkeys who vomited it into the world and ruined the chronology.

Oh boo hoo. It also happens to be the most popular Star Wars game released, and is one of the few that were actually enjoyable to play. Seriously, let the hate go.