JANEWAY IS AN ADMIRAL????

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2002-12-18 03:30am

Oh come on. I was really loving this movie until I saw that Janeway is an Admiral. Think about it: Picard is still a Captain, while Janeway got promoted to the rank of Admiral.

Janeway outranks Picard. Could this be any stupider (I did like the movie, other than that)? Picard has to call Janeway "Ma'am!"

I'm really mad about this.

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2002-12-18 03:32am

Janeway gets a desk job. All she now does is relay orders, according to what's been said on this.

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2002-12-18 03:34am

I don't care. Picard still has to call her "Ma'am." This pisses me off.

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2002-12-18 03:43am

She got kicked upstairs. "Nuff said.

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2002-12-18 03:46am

I wish she would have been kicked upstairs, and then through an airlock.

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2002-12-18 03:47am

Superman wrote:I wish she would have been kicked upstairs, and then through an airlock.

HAHAHAHHAAHAAHA!!!

DocMoriartty · Post by **DocMoriartty** » 2002-12-18 09:04am

Picard has been following the advice of Kirk from Generations and has refused every promotion offered to him.

Post by **Vympel** » 2002-12-18 09:11am

DocMoriartty wrote:Picard has been following the advice of Kirk from Generations and has refused every promotion offered to him.

Didn't you die when the Enterprise-D was destroyed?

How's your marriage to CC going btw

Silver · Post by **Silver** » 2002-12-19 03:07am

Yeah, and then when Shinzon decides to take out Earth with his toy ship the Feds manage a whopping seven ship fleet to stop him. Seeing as how Janeway was the one to send Picard on the diplomatic mission to Romulus, presumably she might be in charge of dealing with things in that sector in general. Mayhap that explains something about the Fed fleet?

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2002-12-19 10:22am

Silver wrote:Yeah, and then when Shinzon decides to take out Earth with his toy ship the Feds manage a whopping seven ship fleet to stop him. Seeing as how Janeway was the one to send Picard on the diplomatic mission to Romulus, presumably she might be in charge of dealing with things in that sector in general. Mayhap that explains something about the Fed fleet?

Manages a whopping seven ships? Did you not notice the fact that this was labeled Battle Group Omega. That sorta indicates there are MORE such battle groups. You do not know the size of the border area in question nor how many other ships the Federation still had core ward. We already know as of VGR End Game they can get damned near 30 ships in less then 10 minutes time to defend Earth.

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2002-12-19 12:41pm

Battle Group Omega. Omega being the last greek character. That 7 ships was the last line of defense then or maybe Omega was the only availiable group, possibly a force in charge of Earth Defense. Or it could be typical Trek dialogue adding in words to make it sound more Sci Fi.

I like the idea of Admirals being "sector generals", makes a lot of sense.

Singular Quartet · Post by **Singular Quartet** » 2002-12-19 03:18pm

Personal theory on the matter:

Due to the fact that she got her ship lost in the Delta Quad for a few years, messed with the time line every other week, Star Fleet wanted to court marshall her. However, since she made a massive blow against the borg, it was decieded that Starfleet couldn't, so they did the next best thing:

Promoted her to management.

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2002-12-19 05:13pm

Singuler Quartet wrote:Personal theory on the matter:

Due to the fact that she got her ship lost in the Delta Quad for a few years, messed with the time line every other week, Star Fleet wanted to court marshall her. However, since she made a massive blow against the borg, it was decieded that Starfleet couldn't, so they did the next best thing:

Promoted her to management.

The Dilbert Principle. Promote the idiots to management, where they do the least harm.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-01-04 04:28am

Perhaps B&B just wanted Janeway to be a ST equivalent of Admiral Daala??

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2003-01-04 04:45am

Simon H.Johansen wrote:Perhaps B&B just wanted Janeway to be a ST equivalent of Admiral Daala??

Scary....and mostly vomit inducing.....

FaxModem1 · Post by **FaxModem1** » 2003-01-04 04:47am

who is Admiral Daala?

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2003-01-04 04:49am

She was in command of a fleet guarding tarkin's personal think tank.....and a skanky ho aswell.....

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-01-04 05:02am

Keevan_Colton wrote:She was in command of a fleet guarding tarkin's personal think tank.....and a skanky ho aswell.....

I don't know about 'skanky ho' but she is definitely one of the least capable Imperial officers ... ever.

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2003-01-04 05:06am

She regularly fucked up when campaigning against the New Republic, although she had some nice toys at her disposal she was unable to hit the republic hard.
She is also responsible for the loss of the Executor class command ship
Night Hammer.

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2003-01-04 05:07am

She got the promotion to admiral by screwing tarkin....

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2003-01-04 05:12am

Yep. She was good at running the maw research facilities but not at making war, most definetely.

Pcm979 · Post by **Pcm979** » 2003-01-04 07:17am

Keevan_Colton wrote:She got the promotion to admiral by screwing tarkin....

What always puzzled me was that he got her transferred to the Maw, where he would most likely never see her again. She can't have been that good a fuck.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2003-01-04 12:52pm

Alyeska wrote:
Silver wrote:Yeah, and then when Shinzon decides to take out Earth with his toy ship the Feds manage a whopping seven ship fleet to stop him. Seeing as how Janeway was the one to send Picard on the diplomatic mission to Romulus, presumably she might be in charge of dealing with things in that sector in general. Mayhap that explains something about the Fed fleet?
Manages a whopping seven ships? Did you not notice the fact that this was labeled Battle Group Omega. That sorta indicates there are MORE such battle groups. You do not know the size of the border area in question nor how many other ships the Federation still had core ward. We already know as of VGR End Game they can get damned near 30 ships in less then 10 minutes time to defend Earth.

Actually the screen also showed USSs and NCCs for the fleet. Meaning a federation battle group is composed of seven ships... That is sort of lamentable. Also we could well find out the size of the area once the DVD comes out by comparing the onscreen movement of the enterprise with its maximum speed.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-01-04 01:57pm

Alyeska wrote:Did you not notice the fact that this was labeled Battle Group Omega. That sorta indicates there are MORE such battle groups.

Yes, as many as 28 if they're using Greek single-digit nomenclature for their battle groups. At 7 capships per battlegroup, this is around 200 capships total. This is actually not unreasonable, since they usually employ lots of shuttles, runabouts, and fighters in DS9 combat, thus bumping up their fleet counts to many times that (and don't give me this "they don't count small ships as "ships" nonsense; you'll have to prove that).

You do not know the size of the border area in question nor how many other ships the Federation still had core ward. We already know as of VGR End Game they can get damned near 30 ships in less then 10 minutes time to defend Earth.

Maybe they were expecting something. In "Paradise Lost", they had precisely ONE ship defending Earth.

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2003-01-04 02:25pm

You know, 22 ships around your CAPITAL PLANET is hardly an impressive figure.