Can't stop laughing(Movie Review Comparsion)

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Checking the Web today and I found Slate running movie reviews by David Edelstein

For the Two Towers
http://slate.msn.com/?id=2075650
As my synopsis implies, The Two Towers starts with a hash of exposition, the characters are sketchy, there's no payoff, and the cross-cutting among the three separate plots kills whatever momentum the filmmakers manage to build.
The film is, by most criteria, an ungainly piece of storytelling.
I'll probably give the same little shrug when I go off to The Return of the King next year—but I'll plunge in just the same. I didn't learn all these damn names to be deprived of a big finale.


Compared to... Star Trek Nemisis
http://slate.msn.com/?id=2075395
Star Trek: Nemesis is a proud addition to the franchise
Logan doesn't just recycle, though: He devises a brilliant, roof-raising feminist-revenge variation on one of Wrath of Khan's biggest moments (as Troi, Marina Sirtis has the best acting moment of her career); and he weaves the philosophical issues through the action instead of confining each to its own sphere. Logan also has, on the whole, a richer group of characters (and a much better group of actors) with which to play.
With its blind, arrogant supervillain and his grisly weapon of mass destruction (it petrifies its targets, then reduces them to ash), Nemesis is eerily in synch with the current landscape of war:


This last line is the best however...
Whenever studios attempt to translate a TV series to the cinema, fans have a lot riding on the outcome: Will their beloved living-room obsession look good on a grander scale? Will a wider audience go for it, or will they be publicly shamed? It's often touch and go with the Star Trek movies, but Nemesis reaffirms the faith. And the universe's physical laws are intact.

...still laughing :lol:

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You have seen Nemesis?

Though I agree this guys review of TTT is incredibly stupid. However, I hardly ever agree with critics.
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Critics are, in general, totally unhelpful. I can judge a movie for myself, I know whether it's going to be crap before I walk in most of the time.
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Man. Was that guy paid off or just stupid?
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neoolong wrote:Man. Was that guy paid off or just stupid?
Probably both.
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Oh my!
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Maybe Darkstar has slipped up and revealed who he is in real life.
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he must be stupid i doubt that anyone could be paid enough to rate TTT better than ST nemesis
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Hm ... I wonder if the "short exposition" could have anything to do with the fact that the real exposition, oh I dunno, took place in the first film?
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neoolong wrote:Man. Was that guy paid off or just stupid?
Calling him stupid would be a compliment.
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DocMoriartty wrote:Maybe Darkstar has slipped up and revealed who he is in real life.

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
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He has the brains of a fly. muhahahahaha
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Admiral Drason wrote:He has the brains of a fly. muhahahahaha
Don't insult flies in such a fashion.
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IG-88E wrote:
Admiral Drason wrote:He has the brains of a fly. muhahahahaha
Don't insult flies in such a fashion.
LOL!!!

Nemesis has is one of the biggest wastes of time I have ever seen. :evil:
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Okay, yeah, the plot's predicatable, and the technical accuracy wasn't the best in the world, but that's true of every movie. Despite that, nemesis was well-directed, well acted, and the pace of the movie keeps it interesting throughout (a refreshing break from the technobabble of the series, I might add). The problem is that too many people walk into the movie and start trying to nitpick it. Can't you just enjoy it for what it is?</trek fanboy mode>
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data_link wrote:</trek fanboy mode>
And here I was, ready to nail you to the freakin wall.
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Not enough fanboy mode...more like moderate mode. :D

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Nemesis has is one of the biggest wastes of time I have ever seen.
Do you people think it was better or worse than former TNG movies.
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Morning Star wrote:
Nemesis has is one of the biggest wastes of time I have ever seen.
Do you people think it was better or worse than former TNG movies.
About the same, meaning that they all sucked.
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Morning Star wrote:
Nemesis has is one of the biggest wastes of time I have ever seen.
Do you people think it was better or worse than former TNG movies.
In my opinion, worse. My initial thoughts were "A one hour episode stretched into a 2 hour movie..." And that is exactly what it felt like.:evil: In my opinion movies are supposed to have better dialog, plots, and/or show more "history" than the TV shows.
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