How would fundies react to a super-STD vaccine?
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I would not be surprised to see some of them starting up some "independent research" showing that said vaccine causes other health problems, eg breast cancer, infertility, etc. I actually think most people, even fundies would applaud the development of a vaccine that protects against all STDs (hell, I'd stand in line to get it myself), but I know that there is always that one who will spread his "gospel of lies" to demonize the greatest thing since the pocket pussy.
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The parenting board I post on has a lot of hard core religious moms and they are already complaining about the HPV vaccine that is being developed (or maybe it's already done and almost on its way to the public?- anyway, I think you know the one).
There was a whole thread in the debate section about whether or not you would want your kid to get the vaccine. The only opposition to it was from the nonvaxers and the fundies who continually claimed that a child has no reason to be vaccinated against an STD and they would wait until "later" (some saying 18 some saying "sexually active but we will be teaching them to not have sex until marriage"....the stuff you would expect to hear).
And, yes, the idea that parents would need to be told if their daughter was getting the vaccine came up in a few fundie posts as well.
There was a whole thread in the debate section about whether or not you would want your kid to get the vaccine. The only opposition to it was from the nonvaxers and the fundies who continually claimed that a child has no reason to be vaccinated against an STD and they would wait until "later" (some saying 18 some saying "sexually active but we will be teaching them to not have sex until marriage"....the stuff you would expect to hear).
And, yes, the idea that parents would need to be told if their daughter was getting the vaccine came up in a few fundie posts as well.
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Did you actually read the thread?wilfulton wrote:I would not be surprised to see some of them starting up some "independent research" showing that said vaccine causes other health problems, eg breast cancer, infertility, etc. I actually think most people, even fundies would applaud the development of a vaccine that protects against all STDs (hell, I'd stand in line to get it myself), but I know that there is always that one who will spread his "gospel of lies" to demonize the greatest thing since the pocket pussy.
We already know from the fuss kicked up about the HPV vacine that fundies are concerned that a vaccine to a low profile STI which is linked to cancer in a way most people aren’t really aware of will encourage people to have sex because it will lower the perceived risk of doing so.
This hypothetical vaccine would remove all risk from sex apart from that of unwanted pregnancy and consequently massively reduce the perceived risk from sex thus encouraging people to sin ie. have sex outside of marriage.
As such you can be damn sure that fundies will object to one of their principle weapons in their attempts to scare teenagers away from sex (or ‘abstinence only’ education as they call it) being taken away from them.
Yes, I know. Aside from the obvious sound bytes about how it would encourage sin, which everyone else discussed, thus saving me the need to bother, because I really honestly can't add anything to that without beating a dead horse, I would not be surprised if some independent research, in quotation marks, because it's another word for shit they are keen to pull out their asses, would prove that Wong's hypothetical vaccine causes infertility, or likewise some stupid bullshit. Look around you. Creation vs. Evolution, is one of our favorite examples of fundie research. What "independent research" do aforementioned fundies not do?Plekhanov wrote:
Did you actually read the thread?
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EDIT: their proof of its "harmful side effects" would be to discourage people from getting it, or as they would no doubt put it, "discourage sin." Ironically, it would work right in the virus's equivalent of hands.
Hmm...real scientists do talk about human genetics and human behavior in terms of how diseases spread. I suppose this brings to light human stupidity.
Hmm...real scientists do talk about human genetics and human behavior in terms of how diseases spread. I suppose this brings to light human stupidity.
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Fundies would still consider sex most immoral, they would only lose their oh so scientific proof that STDs is God's way of punishing people that do it. Of course, even if they would accept that this vaccine protects you against diseases, you can be damn sure they'll do their damndest to tell people how it won't protect you from pregnancies. And their "even if you can protect yourself from STDs, you can't protect your fragile mind" bullshit will naturally not be affected by the vaccine, and probably be touted even harder as a result.
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I hadn't heard about this uproar. It punches a neat, round hole in my thought that fundies would spin it for Jesus as opposed to playing the ignorance card first.Alyeska wrote:Link
Religious groups opposed the HPV vaccine because it would take away fear of having sex and was therefor bad.
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