Judeo-Christians tend to say things like "Oh God" when struck by something which is particularly disturbing (or pleasurable). Other phrases such as "god damn it" or "Jesus Christ, what the hell are you doing" are commonplace.
Do Muslims use the names of deities or prophets in a similar fashion? Or is that taboo?
Do Muslims exclaim to Allah when excited or angry?
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Do Muslims exclaim to Allah when excited or angry?
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No, they do. Bin Laden is swearing to Allah every other tape. Its the name of Mohammed they refuse to take in vain.
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It depends on the language being spoken. I am going by what muslims here speak. There is no muslim equivalent of "god damn it" (although there is "go to hell"). However muslims do have their own version of "for god's sake". And sometimes people swear in god's name - example "i swear in Allah's name this true". Muslims do not have an equivalent of Jesus Christ when expressing frustration or something similar. Instead again Allah's name is used rather than that of the prophet. As CaptainChewbacca said the prophet's name is not taken in vain.
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Re: Do Muslims exclaim to Allah when excited or angry?
They certainly do where I work. We got one guy in particular who's always swearing at the elevator because it doesn't move fast enough for him.Darth Wong wrote:Do Muslims use the names of deities or prophets in a similar fashion?
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The use of such phrases as "Oh, God", "Goddamn it", or "Jesus motherfucking Christ" is rather discouraged in more conservative Christian sects as use of the Lord's name in vain (and a violation of the second commandment). Is there a similar prohibition in Islam?
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Re: Do Muslims exclaim to Allah when excited or angry?
My previous supervisor was muslim, and he would swear like a sailor, even if he was happy. I think his favorite word, however, was "fuck." He would also make references to drug use. When confronted with a very stupid regulation, we as America's faithful soldiers have to follow so we can justify some bureaucrat's existence, he would exclaim, "Are these guys smoking crack?!"Darth Wong wrote:Judeo-Christians tend to say things like "Oh God" when struck by something which is particularly disturbing (or pleasurable). Other phrases such as "god damn it" or "Jesus Christ, what the hell are you doing" are commonplace.
Do Muslims use the names of deities or prophets in a similar fashion? Or is that taboo?
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Yes. I seriously doubt muslims anywhere would use anything like "Jesus motherfucking Christ". As for the other 2 phrases you mentioned there are close enough translations; at least over here.Surlethe wrote:The use of such phrases as "Oh, God", "Goddamn it", or "Jesus motherfucking Christ" is rather discouraged in more conservative Christian sects as use of the Lord's name in vain (and a violation of the second commandment). Is there a similar prohibition in Islam?
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Isn't it "Oh God mom"?Ravencrow wrote:Yeah, they do. Locally there's "Alamaak" exclaimed by local malays as well as other races on occassion, supposed to mean "God forgive you." but also sounds like "by God's mother".
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Alamak have nothing to do with Allah. It is properly pronounced - Ala-mak - translated to "Oh, mother!".Ravencrow wrote:Yeah, they do. Locally there's "Alamaak" exclaimed by local malays as well as other races on occassion, supposed to mean "God forgive you." but also sounds like "by God's mother".
Though "good muslims" are supposed to mention the name of Allah often:
Allahu-akbar - "God is great" : when one is facing a burden, like for example when one lifting a heavy box (or going into battle etc.)
Wallahu-alam - "Only god knows" : when one can't answer the question
Ya Allah - "Oh God" : when one is surprised
Astargfirullahulazim (not sure how to properly transliterate this) - "Forgive me God" : when one sees or hears something one shouldn't. Also when one is surprised.
La-ila-ha-ilallah - "There's not God but God" : when one is incredulous or generally facing stupidity or assholery of others.
etc.. There's lots more but these are the most common ones. For most of the cases above I usually say "crap" or WTF but I do say Allahu-akbar when lifting heavy stuff or getting in and out of my SUV.
Generally mentioning god's name is not considered in vain or bad but rather considered to be a good thing that one remembers god even in ordinary situations. Although, I don't know anyone and can't ever imagine mentioning god's name during an orgasm. Not that it's strict taboo or anything but I just can't imagine anyone doing it. Oh, and the toilet is another place where the practice is supposed to be off-limits.
With regards to not using Muhammad SAW, well, muslims consider him just a regular human being and we simply don't worship him. So there is really no need to remind oneself of one's messenger when one should instead keep reminding oneslf of God.
This is off-topic but ... a quick note on the translation of Alamak. The "Ala" part of the word is derived from the common suffix "LA" in most malay dialects. You guys know.. like: "what-la", "come-on-la", "go fuck yourself-lah".slebetman wrote:Alamak have nothing to do with Allah. It is properly pronounced - Ala-mak - translated to "Oh, mother!".Ravencrow wrote:Yeah, they do. Locally there's "Alamaak" exclaimed by local malays as well as other races on occassion, supposed to mean "God forgive you." but also sounds like "by God's mother".
This is often used as a standalone word at the beginning of sentences:
"La.. why din't you say one..?"
In some cases it is prefixed with an "A":
"Ala.. come-on man.. dont be like dat one.."
Hence, in a lot of malay dialects an exclamation of surprise is commonly:
"Ala mak!" (note that notherners sometimes use Oh instead of Ala so you also hear people say the nothern equivalent "Oh mak!").
Like I said, off topic but I just couldn't resist the temptation of writing a broken english sentence ending with "one" on this forum
Well, that's interesting, consider me educated. Like Pain Rack, I've always thought it meant "God's mother" or just a sort of "Oh God" expression and I was told that. If you google it, you get mixed meanings, including that it came from arabic roots.