Darh Maul vs Darth Vader

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2006-08-15 03:31am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzZPfw5Uaic

This is what happens when Wayne has too much time on his hands...

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2006-08-15 03:34am

Cool flick, but black against black on a black background was hard to see.

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2006-08-15 03:48am

Ace Pace wrote:Cool flick, but black against black on a black background was hard to see.

Yeah, I know. But I was booooored!

DesertFly · Post by **DesertFly** » 2006-08-15 03:49am

Where's the double-blade for Darth Maul?

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2006-08-15 03:58am

DesertFly wrote:Where's the double-blade for Darth Maul?

Hey pal... Maul doesn't whip out the second blade when its one-on-one. Witness his first fight with Qui-Gon.

Besides, its only available in multiplayer in Jedi Outcast, and its just a woodsman's overhead chop!

DesertFly · Post by **DesertFly** » 2006-08-15 04:23am

Oh, I didn't realize you were using Outcast. Academy has double-bladed saber support built in.

Also, Vader would totally WTFPWN Maul everytime.

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2006-08-15 06:48am

DesertFly wrote:Oh, I didn't realize you were using Outcast. Academy has double-bladed saber support built in.

JA is on its way to me as we speak!

Also, Vader would totally WTFPWN Maul everytime.

Not so sure about that. A neophyte like Luke managed to score a couple points off of Vader in TESB.

Post by **Vympel** » 2006-08-15 08:27am

Not so sure about that. A neophyte like Luke managed to score a couple points off of Vader in TESB.

Yeah, but Vader wasn't playing for keeps. Also Luke, while a neophyte, is more powerful (or as powerful, it matters little) than his father was.

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2006-08-15 11:14am

Plus, it turns out that the Vader vs. Maul short story is supposedly one of the few SW Tales that is canon. Vader > Maul.

Noble Ire · Post by **Noble Ire** » 2006-08-15 12:07pm

Darth Fanboy wrote:Plus, it turns out that the Vader vs. Maul short story is supposedly one of the few SW Tales that is canon. Vader > Maul.

Of course, that thing wasn't actually Maul, just some sort of Dark Force puppet. Nevertheless, I don't doubt that Vader was more powerful, at least in his prime. In terms of stamina, Force power, and intelligence, Darth Vader is superior; I would imagine that more than makes up for his inability to jump around like a marionette.

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2006-08-15 01:50pm

Noble Ire wrote:Of course, that thing wasn't actually Maul, just some sort of Dark Force puppet. Nevertheless, I don't doubt that Vader was more powerful, at least in his prime. In terms of stamina, Force power, and intelligence, Darth Vader is superior; I would imagine that more than makes up for his inability to jump around like a marionette.

I really shouldn't make anymore of these...but I was laughing my ass off the other day when I had Old Ben and Vader battling each other! I set it in the Death Star hangar, and I was thinking this is how the ANH battle should have looked! If Count Dooku can flit around like a teenager, then Obi-Wan should do it, too!

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2006-08-15 02:11pm

I never bought into the whole "Cripple vs. Old Man" sentiment that has sort of picked up around the fight in ANH either. To me it really cheapens the moment, the final conflict between two old friends turned enemies.

Post by **Vympel** » 2006-08-15 08:06pm

Speaking of Obi-Wan vs Ben, if you own a console you might seriously consider getting the Episode III game. It should be dirt cheap now, and it has an awesome duelling function- including an Darth Vader and old Obi-Wan Kenobi on the Death Star level. That fighting looks awesome.

DesertFly · Post by **DesertFly** » 2006-08-15 09:30pm

Vympel wrote:That fighting looks awesome.

Yes, including the fact that they can still both jump around like crickets, and the way the ol' "mechanical arms" Vader can shoot out enough lightning to power Manhattan.

But yes, it is cool.

Havok · Post by **Havok** » 2006-08-16 01:55am

What game is that?

DesertFly · Post by **DesertFly** » 2006-08-16 02:44am

havokeff wrote:What game is that?

In the video? Star Wars: (Dark Forces 3) Jedi Knight (II): Jedi Outcast

The other one we're talking about is Star Wars: (Dark Forces 4) Jedi Knight (III): Jedi Academy

And the last one that's been mentioned has been Star Wars Episode III The Video Game.

Adam Reynolds · Post by **Adam Reynolds** » 2006-08-16 03:26am

how did you get these characters in the game?

Post by **Vympel** » 2006-08-16 05:03am

Adamskywalker007 wrote:how did you get these characters in the game?

Skins, dude, skins.

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2006-08-16 02:05pm

Vympel wrote:Speaking of Obi-Wan vs Ben

Is this like ANH Ben Kenobi vs PT Obi Wan or something?

DesertFly · Post by **DesertFly** » 2006-08-16 02:34pm

Darth Fanboy wrote:
Vympel wrote:Speaking of Obi-Wan vs Ben
Is this like ANH Ben Kenobi vs PT Obi Wan or something?

In the Episode III video game that's possible. There's a multiplayer mode that's somewhat like a fighting game, and two of the characters you can select are the young and old Obi-Wan. Same thing with Anakin Skywalker and Darth Vader.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2006-08-16 08:21pm

Maul was kicking Vader's ass in Poe's film and then all of a sudden Vader just starts taking Maul's head clean off a couple of times in a row.

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2006-08-16 08:34pm

Tsyroc wrote:Maul was kicking Vader's ass in Poe's film and then all of a sudden Vader just starts taking Maul's head clean off a couple of times in a row.

I loved the one where he force chokes him, then throws his saber at him and cuts his head off!

I'm actually thinking of pulling this video; it looks like shit. It would be MUCH better if they were both NPCs, like in Luke vs Vader. Then Maul would be jumping around all over the place. And, I'm trying a new compression method that doesn't make the video look like it was filmed underwater.

If I could find a way to make Luke into the Maul skin, that would be great. Or, just re-film it in Jedi Academy.

I'm still thinking about putting together an Old Ben vs. Vader! It looks great!

Post by **Vympel** » 2006-08-16 08:38pm

Darth Fanboy wrote:
Is this like ANH Ben Kenobi vs PT Obi Wan or something?

It was a typo, I meant Ben vs Vader on the Death Star, but yes, you can do Ben vs Obi-Wan.

Anakin vs Darth Vader is awesome too, because the developers really put the effort in- they have Vader and Anakin say shit to each other as if they really were fighting their past/future.

LordShaithis · Post by **LordShaithis** » 2006-08-16 11:52pm

Vympel wrote:Anakin vs Darth Vader is awesome too, because the developers really put the effort in- they have Vader and Anakin say shit to each other as if they really were fighting their past/future.

Whoa, like what??

Elheru Aran · Post by **Elheru Aran** » 2006-08-17 12:12am

Noble Ire wrote:
Darth Fanboy wrote:Plus, it turns out that the Vader vs. Maul short story is supposedly one of the few SW Tales that is canon. Vader > Maul.
Of course, that thing wasn't actually Maul, just some sort of Dark Force puppet. Nevertheless, I don't doubt that Vader was more powerful, at least in his prime. In terms of stamina, Force power, and intelligence, Darth Vader is superior; I would imagine that more than makes up for his inability to jump around like a marionette.

And he had to kill the Maul clone (not a 'puppet', it was a clone IIRC) by sticking his lightsaber through his own fucking chest bare seconds before he was decapitated...

It was a pretty close match from what I remember, really. Both of 'em got digs in, but Vader basically only got his victory through a desperation tactic that he survived mainly due to his toughness and bodysuit.