swoganrich wrote:In reality....Star Wars, Star Trek, Battlestar (et al...) have a serious weakness that is exploited constantly and NONE can withstand....
The film editor's floor.
And, between the three of these franchises, more Star Trek film has hit the floor than either of the other two combined.
In the context of debate on this board, that's a completely irrelevant observation. The versus debate is based on the assumption that the events depicted in the television shows and movies being discussed are accurate depictions of events.
It's called "suspension of disbelief".
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-- Chuck Sonnenburg on Voyager's "Elogium"
swoganrich wrote:jegs 2 - thanks for the welcome. Wow! Batman. I sincerely apologise. Didn't mean to ruffle your cape.
I HATE ruffles in my cape! Do you know how stupid I look with ruffles? I'm supposed to be scary! How am I supposed to scare anybody wearing Valendamned ruffles?
And what do you expect when you enter the debate with a proposition that has not just been debunked, but shot down, hacked to pieces and and then have the pieces set on fire scores of times (I'm inclined to say hundreds of times) before?
See TedC's reply for the relevance (or lack thereof) of the rest of your post.
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'You're a princess from a society of immortal warriors. I'm a rich kid with issues. Lots of issues.'
'No. No dating for the Batman. It might cut into your brooding time.'
'Tactically we have multiple objectives. So we need to split into teams.'-'Dibs on the Amazon!'
'Hey, we both have a Martian's phone number on our speed dial. I think I deserve the benefit of the doubt.'
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swoganrich wrote:In reality....Star Wars, Star Trek, Battlestar (et al...) have a serious weakness that is exploited constantly and NONE can withstand....
The film editor's floor.
And, between the three of these franchises, more Star Trek film has hit the floor than either of the other two combined.
Why does the producers milking the franchise cash cow make it better?
"everytime a person is born the Earth weighs just a little more."--DMJ on StarTrek.com
"You see now you are using your thinking and that is not a good thing!" DMJay on StarTrek.com
"Watching Sarli argue with Vympel, Stas, Schatten and the others is as bizarre as the idea of the 40-year-old Virgin telling Hugh Hefner that Hef knows nothing about pussy, and that he is the expert."--Elfdart
And this is why I rarely browse PSW, PST and SWvST, I argued these points for several years already. Now I like OST and Fantasy for looking at some NEW ideas.
swoganrich wrote:jegs 2 - thanks for the welcome. Wow! Batman. I sincerely apologise. Didn't mean to ruffle your cape.
In reality....Star Wars, Star Trek, Battlestar (et al...) have a serious weakness that is exploited constantly and NONE can withstand....
The film editor's floor.
And, between the three of these franchises, more Star Trek film has hit the floor than either of the other two combined.
Are you attempting to insinuate that somewhere in the heaps and piles of Trek footage which hit the cutting room floor are the magic scenes which would somehow, someway reverse a million to one firepower disadvantage? Just how many meticulously planned, heinously expensive FX shots do you think got cut, anyway?
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