New Computer!!

Braedley · Post by **Braedley** » 2006-08-23 09:43pm

Yay for new computer, but first, a public service anouncement for all the programmers out there. If your program is looking for a file, and that file is not where you expect it to be, or you simply can't find it, STOP LOOKING and exit graciously! Do not BSoD the computer!

This caused me much grief with FarCry not being able to run, since all I did was copy the entire drive contents from one of my older IDE drives over to one of my new SATA drives. Turns out that there may be some other files that FarCry needs in order to load a checkpoint. That's sorted out now, and it's running very nicely if I might say.

One thing I wish the salesman had told me about when he went to upgrade some of my components is that the motherboard only has one IDE channel, and since I got 2 DVD burners, I can't put my old drive in. Oh well, more space for when the old computer becomes a linux server box. Anyways, time for some stats:

1 x AMD S939 Athlon X2 4600+ 2.4Ghz 2x512k Retail Box
1 x DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 Ultra-D Dual PCI-E
2 x OCZ Premier 2x 512Mb PC 3200 CL 2.5 3 3 7 1Gb Kit
2 x Western Digital SATA2 250GB 8MB Cache 7200RPM WD2500JS
1 x eVGA Geforce 7600GS PCI-e 256mb Retail
1 x Mitsumi 1.44MB Floppy Drive 7-in-1 Card Reader Black
2 x Pioneer DVR-111 16x +/- Dual Layer DVD Burner Black
1 x Antec Sonata II Piano Black Quiet ATX Mid Tower
1 x SATA Data Transfer Cable 18inch

I love the tower. So much quieter than my last computer.

EDIT: Actually, that's the system before the processor, motherboard, and ram were upgraded.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2006-08-23 11:52pm

Why did you spend the cash on a expensive Athlon! Intel Core 2 Duos are faster for the price point!

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2006-08-24 12:25am

Beowulf wrote:Why did you spend the cash on a expensive Athlon! Intel Core 2 Duos are faster for the price point!

Athlons right now are VERY cheap(or did you not notice giant cuts) and unlike Core 2 Duo, can be aquired for less then a kidney.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2006-08-24 12:45am

Ace Pace wrote:
Beowulf wrote:Why did you spend the cash on a expensive Athlon! Intel Core 2 Duos are faster for the price point!
Athlons right now are VERY cheap(or did you not notice giant cuts) and unlike Core 2 Duo, can be aquired for less then a kidney.

The 4600+ is still more than a E6400, which outperforms it.

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2006-08-24 12:47am

Beowulf wrote:
Ace Pace wrote:
Beowulf wrote:Why did you spend the cash on a expensive Athlon! Intel Core 2 Duos are faster for the price point!
Athlons right now are VERY cheap(or did you not notice giant cuts) and unlike Core 2 Duo, can be aquired for less then a kidney.
The 4600+ is still more than a E6400, which outperforms it.

Woops didn't notice that one.

atg · Post by **atg** » 2006-08-24 01:46am

And especially a s939 instead of the AM2 version.

Braedley · Post by **Braedley** » 2006-08-24 05:58am

Actually, it is the AM2 version that I got.. The site of the guys that I bought it from only shows what I ordered, not the changes to the system that were made afterward, and I was too lazy to make those changes.

So it's a AMD AM2 Athlon 64 dual core 4600+
DDR2 ram instead of DDR
different motherboard from abit
7600GT instead of 7600GS

Executor32 · Post by **Executor32** » 2006-08-24 04:13pm

Beowulf wrote:Why did you spend the cash on a expensive Athlon! Intel Core 2 Duos are faster for the price point!

Sorry to go a bit off-topic here, and though I realize the Intel Core 2 Duo is brand new, relatively cheap, and in most cases faster than a comparably priced AMD CPU, what's with all the Core 2 Duo fapping that's been going on here almost since it was announced? Whenever someone has mentioned upgrading their computer, someone chimes in with something about the Core 2 Duo, even suggesting that the upgrader save their money for a few months and get a Core 2 Duo when it came out rather than spend less money on something at the time they were upgrading.
It may be cheap and fast, but there are still other processors out there, and pure speed for price point isn't the only consideration. Budget and the upgrader's other hardware need to be taken into account as well. For instance, if I have enough for an Athlon X2, which my motherboard supports, but not enough for a Core 2 Duo and compatible motherboard that's at least comparable to my current one (heck, if there aren't any Core 2 Duo compatible motherboards with AGP slots, then I'd have to get a new video card comparable to my 6800GT as well), do you think I'm going to get the Core 2 Duo?

Again, sorry to go a bit off-topic, but this is something that's been bugging me for a while.

Post by **Edi** » 2006-08-24 04:38pm

What's your problem? If somebody says they need a small upgrade to a specific system, then no problem, we'll look for the best stuff for him to do it with. Case in point, see the advice given to Beowulf about the motherboard in his thread.

When somebody starts talking about major system overhaul, as in replacing both motherboard and processor, only a fucking idiot would not advise the Core 2 Duo setup at current prices. That's because taking the slightly longer view, that kind of setup will last you several years without essentially any upgrades at all, which is going to end up saving a shitload of money on the long run.

If you have a problem with people who are actual computer professionals for a living giving out the advise they think is overall best for someone, I don't give a fuck. ThatGuyFromThatPlace was basically talking about upgradinghis entire machine, because that's what a new mobo+CPU+GPU combo practically means. They are the three most expensive components in any case.

So kindly fuck off with your whining, Executor32, and pull your head out of your arse. If that doesn't suit you, then just fuck off and stay away from these topics. Or try to post something which is actually thought out to some degree, instead of yabbering out stuff without thinking.

Edi

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2006-08-24 04:41pm

Quick note: There is only two places where you don't get a Core 2 Duo as an instant advice. Laptops, where Core Duo is good enough(5% difference for a large diff in price) and CHEAP CHEAP PCs.

As in CHEAP. Thats where a Pentium D of the 9xx range comes in(65nm, no Presshot), or the Athlon 3600+ X2.

Braedley · Post by **Braedley** » 2006-08-24 08:48pm

I would just like to point out that in my case, getting a comparable Core 2 Duo would have cost more. Upwards of $100, possibly even $300, just for the processor. The mobo would have cost more too. In fact, if I bought it from a bigger retailer, I could probably expect to pay significantly more than the $1500 CAN that I spent to get a relatively kick-ass system.

Executor32 · Post by **Executor32** » 2006-08-25 12:11am

Edi wrote:What's your problem? If somebody says they need a small upgrade to a specific system, then no problem, we'll look for the best stuff for him to do it with. Case in point, see the advice given to Beowulf about the motherboard in his thread.

When somebody starts talking about major system overhaul, as in replacing both motherboard and processor, only a fucking idiot would not advise the Core 2 Duo setup at current prices. That's because taking the slightly longer view, that kind of setup will last you several years without essentially any upgrades at all, which is going to end up saving a shitload of money on the long run.

If you have a problem with people who are actual computer professionals for a living giving out the advise they think is overall best for someone, I don't give a fuck. ThatGuyFromThatPlace was basically talking about upgradinghis entire machine, because that's what a new mobo+CPU+GPU combo practically means. They are the three most expensive components in any case.

So kindly fuck off with your whining, Executor32, and pull your head out of your arse. If that doesn't suit you, then just fuck off and stay away from these topics. Or try to post something which is actually thought out to some degree, instead of yabbering out stuff without thinking.

Edi

Sorry, I didn't mean for it to come off that way. Beowulf's post just bothered me a bit because it looked like he was yelling at Braedly for his not getting a Core 2 Duo, what with the exclamation points and all. I should have just kept it to that point, rather than turn it into what sounded like an anti-Core 2 Duo tirade.

That said, I do agree that a Core 2 Duo is your best bet when either building a new PC or a major system upgrade.