What can kill an ISD

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-12-22 02:30pm

I made it 6

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-12-22 02:32pm

NecronLord wrote:I made it 6

Made what 6 what? 6GT, 6TT?

SylasGaunt · Post by **SylasGaunt** » 2002-12-22 02:32pm

Many sources, most planet destruction incidents, though the only somewhat verifiable one consisting of the Nightlords destruction of their own homeworld in a single volley, it was kinda made moot when another quote spoke of said planet having an excotic core responsible for the worlds explosion.

Where is this quote about the planet having an exotic core? The only thing I can remember about the planet being exotic was that the planet's crust was made of adamantium.

Wait a minute... 610 GT torps right? And someone said it took several of those to kill a cruiser right? I assume several means 3-6 or so right?

Except the funny thing about Torpedoes.. they explode INSIDE their targets.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-12-22 02:36pm

SylasGaunt wrote:
Many sources, most planet destruction incidents, though the only somewhat verifiable one consisting of the Nightlords destruction of their own homeworld in a single volley, it was kinda made moot when another quote spoke of said planet having an excotic core responsible for the worlds explosion.
Where is this quote about the planet having an exotic core? The only thing I can remember about the planet being exotic was that the planet's crust was made of adamantium.

Night Lords Index Astartes explicitly states the planet had a volitile core.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-12-22 02:37pm

His Divine Shadow wrote:
NecronLord wrote:I made it 6
Made what 6 what? 6GT, 6TT?

6.1TT

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-12-22 02:39pm

SylasGaunt wrote:Where is this quote about the planet having an exotic core? The only thing I can remember about the planet being exotic was that the planet's crust was made of adamantium.

"An entire strata of the planet's crust was composed of this valuable metal, and it was thought the planet had a very volitile core, hence it's megatonne explosion at the hands of the Primarch."
-White Dwarf 260 Page 23

Hence the explosion that didn't occur before the beams reach the core, which was always a weird issue since that shouldn't happen if it was a normal planet.

Except the funny thing about Torpedoes.. they explode INSIDE their targets.

Funny thing that, about shields that is, anyway, good design can channel explosions effectively though to minimize collateral damage to said ship.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-12-22 02:39pm

NecronLord wrote:
His Divine Shadow wrote:
NecronLord wrote:I made it 6
Made what 6 what? 6GT, 6TT?
6.1TT

And what did make 6.1TT?

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-12-22 02:42pm

His Divine Shadow wrote:
NecronLord wrote:
His Divine Shadow wrote: Made what 6 what? 6GT, 6TT?
6.1TT
And what did make 6.1TT?

A lance shot.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-12-22 02:43pm

If you mean the retribution incident I get 1e6GT required for pulverizing it into 10m fragments and divided over 13 hours thats 9e19joules per second or 21GT, divide by three lances and we have 7GT/s lances

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-12-22 02:44pm

NecronLord wrote:
His Divine Shadow wrote:
NecronLord wrote: 6.1TT
And what did make 6.1TT?
A lance shot.

What incident, where, how did you do it, details details because I have no idea what you are talking about, you could be talking about the retribution example or something totally different for all I know.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-12-22 02:45pm

His Divine Shadow wrote:If you mean the retribution incident I get 1e6GT required for pulverizing it into 10m fragments and divided over 13 hours thats 9e19joules per second or 21GT, divide by three lances and we have 7GT/s lances

I was scaling up from the infamous torpedoes. However as they seem very close, why not call it 6~7GT

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-12-22 02:46pm

Woah Hang on 7GT?

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-12-22 02:53pm

NecronLord wrote:Woah Hang on 7GT?

Yes, those are the numbers I get.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-12-22 02:55pm

What diameter for the moon were you assuming?

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-12-22 02:56pm

NecronLord wrote:What diameter for the moon were you assuming?

1000km, which I found generous given that the moon was said to be small IIRC.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-12-22 02:58pm

if I triple it I get 55GT/s lances.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-12-22 02:58pm

His Divine Shadow wrote:if I triple it I get 55GT/s lances.

sorry, I mean double it, to 2000km

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-12-22 03:02pm

His Divine Shadow wrote:my very generous estimates of lances give them 15TT a shot,

Where does that come from?

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-12-22 03:06pm

NecronLord wrote:Where does that come from?

Somewhere, Nightlords incident prior to the whole core-explosion stuff.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-12-22 03:09pm

Oh and just a FYI, if we assume said moon was earth sized, it'd be 11TT/s

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-12-22 03:12pm

I say we give up and go with the 6.1 myself.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-12-22 03:15pm

NecronLord wrote:

I say we give up and go with the 6.1 myself.

If you can show me how you did it so I can examine said method myself.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-12-22 03:18pm

610 GT torp.

Assuming 10 torps = to 1 torp marker (going from the 100's of torps quote)

6.1GT = one firepower unit.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-12-22 03:20pm

6.1 TT sorry

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-12-22 03:30pm

NecronLord wrote:610 GT torp.

Assuming 10 torps = to 1 torp marker (going from the 100's of torps quote)

6.1GT = one firepower unit.

Well thats game rules... I am iffy about such things since there's that whole balance thing and gameplay limitations, for a perfect example you ought to take a look at the Ork ram-ship and how it messes with physics.

Also, said 610GT torp I believe was said to consist of hundreds of 5GT warheads or something, I need to find that quote.