What fallacy is this? [Sabbath/Saturday]

[The Grim Squeaker]

A quick request for help on a comment someone said during a discussion yesterday concerning the purpose of Sabbath/Saturday/7th day of the week and my confusion as to what fallacy it is:

"If there was nothing special about Saturday/Sabbath then there would be nothing to differentiate between each week, or month or even year"

It sounds similiar to the no limits fallacy in it's long term application, (In my opinion), but I'm not sure how to classify the base opinion itself (No differentiation between weeks, etc' other than the dates without a special 7th day).

Sabbath is Saturday, the 7th day of the week, and is "Holy" (Same as Sunday for christians).
(And no, the argument over what should be done on Sabbath by Jews/Israelis, etc' isn't relevent to it [Though I defined it as Mental but not physical rest]

[Stark]

They seem to be saying that the concept of grouped days like weeks, months etc is brought about by the sabbath, which is utter garbage. The earth goes round the sun every 365.25 days, and the moon has a cycle ever 28 days: do the math. Holy shit, seven day quarters! Approximately 12 months in a year! ZOMG NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BIBLE.

[Stark]

Or the Talmud even.

[JLTucker]

This comment made about the days of the week having to do with the sabbath is up there with those who say "We cannot use musical instruments during our praise to the Lord. For the Bible says that we should be 'singing psalms and hymns and spiritual songs with grace in (our) hearts to the Lord.'" I agree with Stark, this is fucking garbage. Pure fucking idiocy.

[mr friendly guy]

"If there was nothing special about Saturday/Sabbath then there would be nothing to differentiate between each week, or month or even year"

Sounds like a suppressed premise to me. Where the premise is that we differentiate between each week/month/year by the "specialness" of the Sabbath. But don't we distinguish each week because we define it as 7 days has pasted.

[Darth Wong]

"If there was nothing special about Saturday/Sabbath then there would be nothing to differentiate between each week, or month or even year"

That statement is quite obviously untrue if you have anything remotely resembling a social life, because there are always changes and events to differentiate one week, month, or year from the next. Clearly, this person is an incredible loser if nothing ever happens in order to mark the passage of time other than going to synagogue.

[skotos]

If there was nothing special about Saturday/Sabbath then there would be nothing to differentiate between each week, or month or even year"

Emphasis added.

Man, this guy's right. If only there was some natural phenonenon that would let us keep track of months. That way, we wouldn't need a special day of rest in order to keep track of the number of weeks, months, or years that have passed. Gosh, I just can't think of anything that might allow us to tell months apart. Oh well.

[Molyneux]

*cough* Didn't hey have harvest-based cycles as well long before any concept of a Sabbath?

[wolveraptor]

That statement is quite obviously untrue if you have anything remotely resembling a social life,

Or if you live on Earth, whose axial tilt ensures a relatively regular change in climate, conveniently allowing us observe change throughout the course of a year.

Holy Christ, what kind of mindless shithead can't think of anything to mark the passage of time besides Sabbath?

[Ariphaos]

A quick request for help on a comment someone said during a discussion yesterday concerning the purpose of Sabbath/Saturday/7th day of the week and my confusion as to what fallacy it is:

"If there was nothing special about Saturday/Sabbath then there would be nothing to differentiate between each week, or month or even year"

It sounds similiar to the no limits fallacy in it's long term application, (In my opinion), but I'm not sure how to classify the base opinion itself (No differentiation between weeks, etc' other than the dates without a special 7th day).

It's a fallacy of simply not being true.

The week originates before to the Hebrews, naturally, though the names have changed. One would wonder why the Romans used it then.

[Havok]

Maybe this poster is actually a really big Ozzy Ozbourne fan and for six days listens to all of Ozzy's awesome tunes. BUT on saturday he listens to Black Sabbath so that he can mark the end of his Ozzy listening week. Becuase listening to JUST Ozzy and not Sabbath is just plain silly!!

[Lusankya]

The week (or at least the names of the days of it) came from the Babylonians. That's why the days of the week are named after the same planets (or gods associated the same planets) in every language in Europe and Asia.

For those of you who are interested, the order is:

Moon - Mars - Mercury - Jupiter - Venus - Saturn - Sun


ROAR!!!!! says GOJIRA!!!!!

[Shrykull]

The week (or at least the names of the days of it) came from the Babylonians. That's why the days of the week are named after the same planets (or gods associated the same planets) in every language in Europe and Asia.

For those of you who are interested, the order is:

Moon - Mars - Mercury - Jupiter - Venus - Saturn - Sun


ROAR!!!!! says GOJIRA!!!!!

I thought though Thursday is Thor's Day, Friday- Frigga's day, Wednesday- Woden's day, which are all Norse gods.

[Lusankya]

The gods are still associated with the same planets. English is just stupid because it gets its days of the week from random different language groups. Note how I said:

the days of the week are named after the same planets (or gods associated the same planets)

Thor was associated with Jupter, Woden was associated with Mercury and Frigga/Freya was associated with Venus.


ROAR!!!!! says GOJIRA!!!!!