Culture vs WH40K

The Nomad · Post by **The Nomad** » 2002-12-22 05:31am

Some kind of Excession-like phenomenon opens a wormhole between Warhammerverse and Cultureverse. For some reasons, they decide that they don't like each other and thus begin to fight.

Warhammerverse : dunno

Cultureverse : LtW-tech, CP-mindset

Xon · Post by **Xon** » 2002-12-22 07:45am

Stop baiting the rabid WH40kers...

For the record:
Barring Uber-being every thing gets killed. Just takes soem time for the Culture to cover the entire galaxy.

As for the Chaos tainted, unless the Culture does something so increadible stupid it lowers their IQ to the level of a brainless monkey they just dont go near the Eye of Terror.

And since no one has the reaction time require to actually hit the Culture ships, nor will the summoners for the Chaos possession spell be able to exist long enough to get anything larger than a crippled Culture combat drone.

As for the Emperor of the IoM they just heal him. Frankly the loyal high priests/what ever the people close to him are called, their betrayal was as bad as the initial betrayal that put him in the coma. What else do you call deliberately keeping you Boss in a coma so you can stay in power with out having to answer to anyone?

As for the Emperor's reaction to the Culture, The Culture would greatly passify the galaxy and would make it so that humanity isnt going to be wiped out if they arnt always on the offensive. Might get a little peved that they get re-educated, but who is going to argue with the Culture(in the WH40K-verse)?

Marcus · Post by **Marcus** » 2002-12-22 08:48am

Culture shows up.

SC starts working to 'fix' the 40K Universe, whilst the Culture keeps a careful eye on the Wormhole.

Whilst a 'fixed' 40K Universe would be a boring place, the process could be amusing... imagine the Tyrannids, after being converted from a Hegemonizing Swarm to an Evangleizing Swarm...

Same though, as applied to the Borg... "We are the Borg. Resistance is Optional. We would like to add your Biological and Technological distinctivness to our own. Please. Would you like a Flower?" (Mental Image-Borg Drones, in Orange Robes, in your Airport, handing out Flowers)

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-12-22 10:00am

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You think that SC could fix the Tryanids?

*Laughs*

Thats a real good one...

And when they piss off the Chaos gods or even the EoM enough then a warp rift will open around the wormhole, and any vessel coming through will have its weapons and mind and engine fields removed Instatnly. There is a good reason the C'tan are afraid of the warp you know?

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-12-22 10:20am

Effectors = Instant Tame Tyranids

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-12-22 10:34am

Yup but they haven't a hope of converting the hive mind into an evangelising swarm now have they?

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-12-22 10:44am

Actually, they can do it rather well...

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-12-22 10:50am

Have you even read the 'nid background?

Xon · Post by **Xon** » 2002-12-22 11:03am

NecronLord wrote:Have you even read the 'nid background?

Then the Culture designed a mental virus which uses the properies of their hive mind to aggressively alters them into Tame Tyranids.

Or just gets out a really big can of Raid Bug spray(Gridfire!)

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-12-22 11:08am

Skelron · Post by **Skelron** » 2002-12-22 11:48am

Until recently the Culture overpowewred anything in the Physical realm in the 40K verse. (Although trying to reprogram the Hive Mind is an impossible task, it's god like powers here, Same with Chaos in the Warp... but the Culture could massacre them in combat so it would be moot point) However the C'Tan even the score somewhat I believe, The C'tan might be able to fight the Culture, a longshot as they are still gathering their forces but.... At full power who knows!!

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-12-22 11:58am

At full power quite possibly. At their current state they'd run away (as a necron ship has FTL vastly faster than the culture's) If you remove the god beings it is hideously one sided. If you leave them in it is one sided the other way. Also this is yet another version of this. Its been gone over a few times before...

SWPIGWANG · Post by **SWPIGWANG** » 2002-12-22 12:15pm

sublime....

2000AD · Post by **2000AD** » 2002-12-22 01:24pm

I like 40K a lot but from what i've heard about the Culture we haven't got a chance!

white_rabbit · Post by **white_rabbit** » 2002-12-22 01:26pm

Im not sure how the Hive-mind is going to be effectorised...I mean, thats one big bastard powerful mind to effector!

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-12-22 01:29pm

SWPIGWANG wrote:sublime....

Fundamentally changes the character of said entities to the point where they have only once interacted with their progenitor cultures, (the chelgarians) and even then did not directly help them.

The Nomad · Post by **The Nomad** » 2002-12-22 01:35pm

Attitude Regulator, an old LOU, was able to effectorise another Culture Mind, and that's only an example. Minds are God-like AIs and create virtual Universes for fun, so I have some doubts on the Tyranid Hive Mind's resistance to an EM effector, especially if it's mounted on a SC's GCU ( although I don't know much about their background ).

The Nomad · Post by **The Nomad** » 2002-12-22 01:39pm

NecronLord wrote:
SWPIGWANG wrote:sublime....
Fundamentally changes the character of said entities to the point where they have only once interacted with their progenitor cultures, (the chelgarians) and even then did not directly help them.

But the intervention of a Sublimed civilisation remains a possibility ( the Sublimed creators of the "aerospheres" obliterated the civilizations which tried to colonize them, you know it since you read Look to Windward ) If you remember Excession, you'll know that it remains one of the worst fears of the Minds, with the appearance of Excession-like objects or overgrown Hegemonization Swarms.[/i]

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-12-22 01:48pm

The Nomad wrote:
NecronLord wrote:
SWPIGWANG wrote:sublime....
Fundamentally changes the character of said entities to the point where they have only once interacted with their progenitor cultures, (the chelgarians) and even then did not directly help them.
But the intervention of a Sublimed civilisation remains a possibility ( the Sublimed creators of the "aerospheres" obliterated the civilizations which tried to colonize them, you know it since you read Look to Windward ) If you remember Excession, you'll know that it remains one of the worst fears of the Minds, with the appearance of Excession-like objects or overgrown Hegemonization Swarms.[/i]

Point taken, I had forgotten them. Still the point is they are really unlikely to bother. As for effectorising the Hive mind it is a warp entity. The laws of physics are subject to the whim of psykers and chaos gods in the warp. It would not be advisable to even attempt to try.

The Nomad · Post by **The Nomad** » 2002-12-22 01:58pm

Well, effectors do work in hyperspace, don't they ? Wouldn't this give them some ability to interact with the Hive Mind and Chaos Gods ? More important, would those entities have sufficient reaction times, would they be fast enought to change laws of physics within warp before they get effectorized ?

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-12-22 02:01pm

The Nomad wrote:Well, effectors do work in hyperspace, don't they ? Wouldn't this give them some ability to interact with the Hive Mind and Chaos Gods ? More important, would those entities have sufficient reaction times, would they be fast enought to change laws of physics within warp before they get effectorized ?

Unlikely the descriptions of H-space and the Warp are radically different. It is unlikely that the effectors would do anything, as they seem to be EM based, and warp entities are essentially psycic. By playing about with the warp the best that will happen is nothing at all, at worst, posessed minds

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2002-12-22 02:04pm

2000AD wrote:I like 40K a lot but from what i've heard about the Culture we haven't got a chance!

Don't forget that it's WH40k universe vs Culture, that means we can use the Chaos gods

Tatterdemalion · Post by **Tatterdemalion** » 2002-12-22 06:39pm

Hmm, I doubt you could effectorise the Hivemind that easily, I mean it's not just one mind, it's the result of countless billions of smaller minds combined (with the norn queens taking a bigger share of it obviously.) In order to effectorise the Hivemind, wouldn't you have to basicly effectorise all tyranids everywhere? Probably be simpler just to blast them all.

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2002-12-22 07:25pm

That raises the question of: How Many Tyranids Are There, Anyway? It is entirely possible that what we have seen so far is only the "Recon Assault Group", and the full weight of the Swarm has yet to arrive.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2002-12-22 07:28pm

Tatterdemalion wrote:Hmm, I doubt you could effectorise the Hivemind that easily, I mean it's not just one mind, it's the result of countless billions of smaller minds combined (with the norn queens taking a bigger share of it obviously.) In order to effectorise the Hivemind, wouldn't you have to basicly effectorise all tyranids everywhere? Probably be simpler just to blast them all.

Well, Culture ships reprogrammed entire planetary computers after the Idirans surrendered. That's a hell of a lot right there.

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