Phelps again. It speaks for itself.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » 2006-09-09 02:09pm

l33telboi wrote:
No, it's the first time i ever heard of him right now. But i take it from your post that it was meant as a serious thing, the intro thing?

I had no idea the anti-gay people could be so blunt. Usually when i hear about stuff like this, the people who said it follow up by saying "their lies, all lies, i never said anything like it!". And then the very next day the start preaching the same thing, when the media isn't around.

I mean, doesn't that violate some kind of hate-speech laws?

Hate speech is protected under the US Constitution, it's considered freedom of speech. But Phelps can't come up to Canada and preach this nonsense or he'll get arrested.

Molyneux · Post by **Molyneux** » 2006-09-09 04:38pm

Cpl Kendall wrote:
l33telboi wrote:
No, it's the first time i ever heard of him right now. But i take it from your post that it was meant as a serious thing, the intro thing?

I had no idea the anti-gay people could be so blunt. Usually when i hear about stuff like this, the people who said it follow up by saying "their lies, all lies, i never said anything like it!". And then the very next day the start preaching the same thing, when the media isn't around.

I mean, doesn't that violate some kind of hate-speech laws?
Hate speech is protected under the US Constitution, it's considered freedom of speech. But Phelps can't come up to Canada and preach this nonsense or he'll get arrested.

Isn't there a warrant for his arrest in Sweden for threatening the royal family, too?

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » 2006-09-09 04:43pm

Molyneux wrote: Isn't there a warrant for his arrest in Sweden for threatening the royal family, too?

Not sure but apperently he can't return to Canada as there is a warrent out for his arrest for violating our hate speech laws. Although if thats true I don't know why he hasn't been extridiated yet.

Braedley · Post by **Braedley** » 2006-09-09 05:28pm

Cpl Kendall wrote:
Molyneux wrote: Isn't there a warrant for his arrest in Sweden for threatening the royal family, too?
Not sure but apperently he can't return to Canada as there is a warrent out for his arrest for violating our hate speech laws. Although if thats true I don't know why he hasn't been extridiated yet.

He needs to be arrested for doing something illegal in the US first. That won't happen until the US either criminalizes hate speech or outright bans the funeral protests. I have a feeling that neither is happening any time soon.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » 2006-09-09 05:32pm

Braedley wrote:
He needs to be arrested for doing something illegal in the US first. That won't happen until the US either criminalizes hate speech or outright bans the funeral protests. I have a feeling that neither is happening any time soon.

Oh I thought we could request an extradition if he was wanted in Canada regardless.

l33telboi · Post by **l33telboi** » 2006-09-09 06:01pm

Molyneux wrote:Isn't there a warrant for his arrest in Sweden for threatening the royal family, too?

Are you by chance referring to the incident where someone (Phelps then presumably) took offence to Madeleines cleavage spouting dress she wore at the nobel prise ceremony and started a major rant about it, saying she's a whore and somesuch? Or was that something unrelated?

l33telboi · Post by **l33telboi** » 2006-09-09 06:02pm

Ghetto Edit for clarification: Madeleine's the princess, if i got my royal family members memorized correctly.

wolveraptor · Post by **wolveraptor** » 2006-09-09 08:14pm

Braedley wrote:
mr friendly guy wrote:I didn't even make it to the 3 minute mark of that video. God Phelps is so boring. But I get the gist of it, which consists of quoting Genesis and discussing God's destruction of Sodom.
Hey, you did better than me. Once he got into the gay bashing I closed the tab. As I have said before, I can't stand the guy and his idealologies, and I hope his 'church' won't survive his death.

I don't know what you're all talking about. I watched the whole damn thing. This guy is hilarious. I love the random pictures of burnt toats popping in. "America is toast..." and then he shows a picture of toast. That's so great. Absolutely hilarious. And his website names are simply amazing. priestsrapeboys.com? Fucking funny.

I guess I just find the overarching retardedness of this guy funny. It loses it's humor when he takes it off the internet and to people's funerals.

Hillary · Post by **Hillary** » 2006-09-11 07:52am

The picture of the piece of toast that appeared when he was talking about the destruction of S&G made me laugh. "The next day - it was toast".

Never seen Phelps before - the guy is beyond parody. Just dumbstruck that people like this have a big following.

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2006-09-11 06:19pm

Hillary wrote:The picture of the piece of toast that appeared when he was talking about the destruction of S&G made me laugh. "The next day - it was toast".

Never seen Phelps before - the guy is beyond parody. Just dumbstruck that people like this have a big following.

Phelps' following consists of his immediate family and in-laws, 50 some-odd people; it is not big in any objective sense of the word.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2006-09-11 06:34pm

Unfortunately, while Phelps is a nutbag and has few followers, his basic ideology that we must suppress gays in order to avoid wrath from God has a lot of followers, most of whom are far more mainstream than Phelps will ever be. He's just honest enough to express his beliefs bluntly, while most American members of the "Religious Right" tend to couch their hatemongering bullshit in careful use of non-commital language.

Ingersoll · Post by **Ingersoll** » 2006-09-11 07:43pm

I'm straight but I want to fuck Phelps in the ass over and over. Dont' forget the facial and dirty Sanchez, too.

Magnetic · Post by **Magnetic** » 2006-09-12 12:02pm

Darth Wong wrote:Unfortunately, while Phelps is a nutbag and has few followers, his basic ideology that we must suppress gays in order to avoid wrath from God has a lot of followers, most of whom are far more mainstream than Phelps will ever be. He's just honest enough to express his beliefs bluntly, while most American members of the "Religious Right" tend to couch their hatemongering bullshit in careful use of non-commital language.

They would state that God doesn't hate homosexuals, just their actions God dislikes.

Darth Raptor · Post by **Darth Raptor** » 2006-09-12 03:17pm

I agree that the WBC is a very honest and self-consistently doctrinaire organization, but there are very real disagreements between their Biblical concept of God and that held by the Religious Right. I don't think even Falwell or Robertson would say that God hates anyone (eternal damnation can be done out of love!). Their position is to love the sinner and hate the sin, as Magnetic mentioned. The difference may be semantic, and Phelps may be more Christian, but it's probably unfair to say that Phelps is saying out loud what the rest of them are thinking. The aforementioned tubs of lard want nothing to do with him, though that may be more for his rabid anti-Americanism than anything.

drachefly · Post by **drachefly** » 2006-09-14 04:58pm

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:It probably wouldn't even take Phelps getting killed for them to play the martyrdom card. If they did something like tax evasion and law enforcment went after them for it, they'd probably claim they were being persecuted for theri beliefs.

Insanely many members of WBC are lawyers, so you had better have a pretty strong case, whatever you try. Legally taking them out has been tried.

Post by **weemadando** » 2006-09-14 05:31pm

How the fuck does Phelps not get raped by hate-speech laws?

Morilore · Post by **Morilore** » 2006-09-14 06:05pm

weemadando wrote:How the fuck does Phelps not get raped by hate-speech laws?

Look one post above you.

wolveraptor · Post by **wolveraptor** » 2006-09-14 06:11pm

Are there even hate speech laws in the US? I'm quite sure that the only form of speech banned is the kind that directly and intentionally causes harm, like shouting "Fire" in a theater or something. All the US History/Government teachers repeatedly cover that as part of their "Important Cases" segment of the class.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » 2006-09-14 06:16pm

wolveraptor wrote:Are there even hate speech laws in the US? I'm quite sure that the only form of speech banned is the kind that directly and intentionally causes harm, like shouting "Fire" in a theater or something. All the US History/Government teachers repeatedly cover that as part of their "Important Cases" segment of the class.

No there aren't, as I noted at the top of the page hate speech is protected as free speech under the US Constitution. Thats how the KKK has gotten away with their shit for so long.

Post by **Simplicius** » 2006-09-14 08:00pm

wolveraptor wrote:Are there even hate speech laws in the US? I'm quite sure that the only form of speech banned is the kind that directly and intentionally causes harm, like shouting "Fire" in a theater or something. All the US History/Government teachers repeatedly cover that as part of their "Important Cases" segment of the class.

There are a few categories of speech which are wholly uprotected by the First Amendment, defined by various legal tests: Obscenity (with child pornography particularly distinct), fighting words, libel and slander against private citizens (as opposed to 'public figures' and 'public officials'), and 'clear and imminent danger' - but only when the 'danger' is serious injury to the state (i.e. overthrow, or assassination of the executive).

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