Would you let your child be taught by a transgendered person

Natorgator · Post by **Natorgator** » 2006-09-11 10:04am

Refer to topic for scenario. It comes from the recent hoopla about a transgendered high school teacher in New York. Specifics:

1. Elementary school
2. Middle school
3. High school

Is it acceptable for a transgendered person to be a teacher? Why or why not? Does the child's age matter (ie acceptable for an older kid but not someone 2nd grade or below, for example?)

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2006-09-11 10:06am

Sure, what the fuck difference does it make so long as they are a qualified and competent teacher.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2006-09-11 10:10am

I would gladly take a competent transgender teacher over an incompetent one, and believe me, the system does not currently suffer from an excess of great teachers.

Feil · Post by **Feil** » 2006-09-11 10:12am

Only if he doesn't have green eyes. Green-eyed people are completely unsuited to the teaching profession. They might give the idea that having green eyes is somehow an... "acceptable alternative" to having brown or blue eyes, like normal people.

Hillary · Post by **Hillary** » 2006-09-11 10:20am

Is this a trick question? Why would it not be acceptable? Surely you'd have to be a complete bigot to say no.

Lord Woodlouse · Post by **Lord Woodlouse** » 2006-09-11 10:20am

Only if she has big boobs.

Honestly, what possible reason is there not to? She going to secretly transgenderise my (hypothetical) kids or something?

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2006-09-11 10:22am

Lord Woodlouse wrote:Only if she has big boobs.

Honestly, what possible reason is there not to? She going to secretly transgenderise my (hypothetical) kids or something?

Yes with evil anti-jesus mind rays!

Post by **Surlethe** » 2006-09-11 10:25am

I don't care if the teacher is male, female, asexual, transgender, dwarvish, elvish, alien, nerdy, geeky, or any of a million other adjectives, so long as he teaches well and isn't a pedophile or abusive.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2006-09-11 10:26am

Lord Woodlouse wrote:Only if she has big boobs.

Honestly, what possible reason is there not to? She going to secretly transgenderise my (hypothetical) kids or something?

Once you understand that the phrase "family values" means "making sure that all of the undesirables can never forget how much you hate them", you will understand why millions of people in North America would vehemently oppose a transgender teacher, especially for young kids. The vague and meaningless concerns they express are merely a cover-up for their real motivation.

Entrusting someone with young children is, to some extent, a moral seal of approval. It means that this person is fairly well-regarded by society. And that is simply unacceptable if this person is on the "undesirables" list, so you have to make up ridiculous fears of what this person might do to your kids without a shred of evidence or reason. The point is that the person must never be allowed to forget that he or she is scum. That's why the bigots rail against "normalizing" homosexuality and other deviations, or distributing textbooks to children in which people like that are portrayed as contributing members of society rather than disgusting bogeymen to be hated and feared.

Natorgator · Post by **Natorgator** » 2006-09-11 10:35am

Hillary wrote:Is this a trick question? Why would it not be acceptable? Surely you'd have to be a complete bigot to say no.

I figured I'd ask for opinions here since I'm currently in a debate on another forum on this very same topic. Needless to say, a lot of people are against it: most of their objections revolve around answering the inevitable questions that will come from their children.

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2006-09-11 10:39am

I want my children brough up in a bubble in which they never have to encounter anything I dont want to explain...like coloured people...

Post by **Simplicius** » 2006-09-11 10:40am

Natorgator wrote:I figured I'd ask for opinions here since I'm currently in a debate on another forum on this very same topic. Needless to say, a lot of people are against it: most of their objections revolve around answering the inevitable questions that will come from their children.

Then they are/will make poor parents. Answering their childrens' questions honestly and accurately is one of the most important things a parent can do, so by trying to avoid questions on an issue that they personally don't like they are shirking their parental duty.

Raising a child does not mean hiding anything that one might find remotely icky.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2006-09-11 10:42am

Natorgator wrote:
Hillary wrote:Is this a trick question? Why would it not be acceptable? Surely you'd have to be a complete bigot to say no.
I figured I'd ask for opinions here since I'm currently in a debate on another forum on this very same topic. Needless to say, a lot of people are against it: most of their objections revolve around answering the inevitable questions that will come from their children.

That's because they would be torn between telling the child to listen to his teacher and telling him that his teacher is a horrible abomination against humanity who deserves eternal damnation.

Seriously, for someone like me there's no problem. I just tell my kids what a transgender person is, or what a homosexual is, and that's the end of it (I've already done that for homosexuals; they haven't asked about transgenders yet). They don't even ask again because they received a completely matter-of-fact satisfactory answer the first time.

That's the problem with bigots; they can't give a matter-of-fact answer, and that all comes back to the "must make sure deviants are always condemned" mentality I mentioned earlier. They don't want to give an answer which isn't couched in all sorts of bigotry and arbitrarily judgmental bullshit, and they know the kid isn't yet old enough to comprehend the necessity for hating people who haven't hurt anybody. Worse yet, they might meet the teacher and he or she might seem to be a good person. So, in order to spare themselves the discomfort of confronting their own prejudices, they would rather just eliminate the person from their environment and bury their heads in the sand.

Of course, it's easier for me to make these kinds of arguments because these aren't just idle theories; I practice what I preach with my boys, and they're fine. They just shrug and move on, because the answer is so matter-of-fact.

Archaic` · Post by **Archaic`** » 2006-09-11 10:42am

So let me get this straight....their objections are basically coming from the fact that they don't want to give their kids a little more detail on the birds and the bees talk?

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2006-09-11 10:43am

Archaic` wrote:So let me get this straight....their objections are basically coming from the fact that they don't want to give their kids a little more detail on the birds and the bees talk?

They just want the birds and the bees, they dont want the bees and the bees, the birds and the birds and you can keep the bloody butterflies right out of it.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2006-09-11 10:44am

Archaic` wrote:So let me get this straight....their objections are basically coming from the fact that they don't want to give their kids a little more detail on the birds and the bees talk?

A lot of parents are afraid of telling their kids these things, because they don't know how to be matter-of-fact about it. They've got so many hang-ups that they're terrified of discussing it, and cannot do so in a frank and factual manner. It's like a phobia.

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2006-09-11 10:45am

Darth Wong wrote:It's like a phobia.

Totally irational.

Pick · Post by **Pick** » 2006-09-11 10:47am

I wouldn't judge a transgendered teacher by any standard I wouldn't hold any other teacher to equally.

Sriad · Post by **Sriad** » 2006-09-11 11:34am

Feil wrote:Only if he doesn't have green eyes. Green-eyed people are completely unsuited to the teaching profession. They might give the idea that having green eyes is somehow an... "acceptable alternative" to having brown or blue eyes, like normal people.

Quoted for truth. Green-eyers are Hellbound perverts.

Normal trannies are fine though.

Post by **Kuja** » 2006-09-11 11:35am

I wouldn't have a problem with it.

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2006-09-11 12:07pm

Since transgendered people are gay no matter what in the eyes of the lord, and since they make me feel confused about my sexuality, I would prefer it if they didn't teach my kids, lest they contract gaymoism and potentially wicca.

Setesh · Post by **Setesh** » 2006-09-11 12:41pm

Darth Wong wrote:Seriously, for someone like me there's no problem. I just tell my kids what a transgender person is, or what a homosexual is, and that's the end of it (I've already done that for homosexuals; they haven't asked about transgenders yet). They don't even ask again because they received a completely matter-of-fact satisfactory answer the first time.

*snip*

Of course, it's easier for me to make these kinds of arguments because these aren't just idle theories; I practice what I preach with my boys, and they're fine. They just shrug and move on, because the answer is so matter-of-fact.

This works for just about anything I've found. I had to explain what 'virginity' was to a 7 year old who's sister had a far to close encounter with the support bar of her bike. Everyone else was busy so I got drafted (at the age of 16), I gave him a clear concise definition of what a hymen was, his response was 'yuck girl stuff'. Everything he asked to hear, nothing he wanted to know once he knew.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2006-09-11 01:04pm

In some ways, I think the greatest fear of these parents is that a homosexual or transgender teacher will turn out to be a wonderful teacher. Because that would give their kids positive impressions of sexual deviants, and make it much harder to teach the kids the proper Christian family values of hatred for that which is different.

Ryushikaze · Post by **Ryushikaze** » 2006-09-11 01:08pm

I see no issues with it, if they are good teachers.

'Course, I'd say the same of any leaning, including religious people, and they're far more into corrupting the youth than any tranny I've ever met.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2006-09-11 01:49pm

Elementary School - Kid wouldn't know, I wouldn't mind.
Middle School - Kid wouldn't care, I wouldn't mind.
Same for highschool.

I actually had a TG math teacher in highschool, it didn't affect my learning at all.

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