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Relativity drive: The end of wings and wheels?

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Sounds promising.
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The trip from London to Havant on the south coast of England is like travelling through time. I sit in an air-conditioned train, on tracks first laid 150 years ago, passing roads that were known to the Romans. At one point, I pick out a canal boat, queues of cars and the trail from a high-flying jet - the evolution of mechanised travel in a single glance.

But evolution has a habit of springing surprises. Waiting at my destination is a man who would put an end to mechanised travel. Roger Shawyer has developed an engine with no moving parts that he believes can replace rockets and make trains, planes and automobiles obsolete. "The end of wings and wheels" is how he puts it. It's a bold claim. Read Shawyer’s theory paper here (pdf format).

Of course, any crackpot can rough out plans for a warp drive. What they never show you is evidence that it works. Shawyer is different. He has built a working prototype to test his ideas, and as a respected spacecraft engineer he has persuaded the British government to fund his work. Now organisations from other parts of the world, including the US air force and the Chinese government, are beating a path to his tiny company.

The device that has sparked their interest is an engine that generates thrust purely from electromagnetic radiation - microwaves to be precise - by exploiting the strange properties of relativity. It has no moving parts, and releases no exhaust or noxious emissions. Potentially, it could pack the punch of a rocket in a box the size of a suitcase. It could one day replace the engines on almost any spacecraft. More advanced versions might allow cars to lift from the ground and hover. It could even lead to aircraft that will not need wings at all. I can't help thinking that it sounds too good to be true.

When I meet Shawyer, he turns out to be reassuringly normal. His credentials are certainly impressive. He worked his way up through the aerospace industry, designing and building navigation and communications equipment for military and commercial satellites, before becoming a senior aerospace engineer at Matra Marconi Space (later part of EADS Astrium) in Portsmouth, near where he now lives. He was also a consultant to the Galileo project, Europe's satellite navigation system, which engineers are now testing in orbit and for which he negotiated the use of the radio frequencies it needed.
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With that pedigree, you'd imagine Shawyer would be someone the space industry would have listened to. Far from it. While at Astrium, Shawyer proposed that the company develop his idea. "I was told in no uncertain terms to drop it," he says. "This came from the very top."

What Shawyer had in mind was a replacement for the small thrusters conventional satellites use to stay in orbit. The fuel they need makes up about half their launch weight, and also limits a satellite's life: once it runs out, the vehicle drifts out of position and must be replaced. Shawyer's engine, by contrast, would be propelled by microwaves generated from solar energy. The photovoltaic cells would eliminate the fuel, and with the launch weight halved, satellite manufacturers could send up two craft for the price of one, so you would only need half as many launches.

So why the problem? Shawyer argues that for companies investing billions in rockets and launch sites, a new technology that leads to fewer launches and longer-lasting satellites has little commercial appeal. By the same token, a company that offers more for less usually wins in the end, so Shawyer's idea may have been seen as too speculative. Whatever the reason, in 2000, he resigned to go it alone.

Surprisingly, Shawyer's disruptive technology rests on an idea that goes back more than a century. In 1871 the physicist James Clerk Maxwell worked out that light should exert a force on any surface it hits, like the wind on a sail. This so-called radiation pressure is extremely weak, though. Last year, a group called The Planetary Society attempted to launch a solar sail called Cosmos 1 into orbit. The sail had a surface area of about 600 square metres. Despite this large area, about the size of two tennis courts, its developers calculated that sunlight striking it would produce a force of 3 millinewtons, barely enough to lift a feather on the surface of the Earth. Still, it would be enough to accelerate a craft in the weightlessness of space, though unfortunately the sail was lost after launch. NASA is also interested in solar sails, but has never launched one. Perhaps that shouldn't be a surprise, as a few millinewtons isn't enough for serious work in space.

But what if you could amplify the effect? That's exactly the idea that Shawyer stumbled on in the 1970s while working for a British military technology company called Sperry Gyroscope. Shawyer's expertise is in microwaves, and when he was asked to come up with a gyroscopic device for a guidance system he instead came up with the idea for an electromagnetic engine. He even unearthed a 1950s paper by Alex Cullen, an electrical engineer at University College London, describing how electromagnetic energy might create a force. "It came to nothing at the time, but the idea stuck in my head," he says.

In his workshop, Shawyer explains how this led him to a way of producing thrust. For years he has explored ways to confine microwaves inside waveguides, hollow tubes that trap radiation and direct it along their length. Take a standard copper waveguide and close off both ends. Now create microwaves using a magnetron, a device found in every microwave oven. If you inject these microwaves into the cavity, the microwaves will bounce from one end of the cavity to the other. According to the principles outlined by Maxwell, this will produce a tiny force on the end walls. Now carefully match the size of the cavity to the wavelength of the microwaves and you create a chamber in which the microwaves resonate, allowing it to store large amounts of energy.

What's crucial here is the Q-value of the cavity - a measure of how well a vibrating system prevents its energy dissipating into heat, or how slowly the oscillations are damped down. For example, a pendulum swinging in air would have a high Q, while a pendulum immersed in oil would have a low one. If microwaves leak out of the cavity, the Q will be low. A cavity with a high Q-value can store large amounts of microwave energy with few losses, and this means the radiation will exert relatively large forces on the ends of the cavity. You might think the forces on the end walls will cancel each other out, but Shawyer worked out that with a suitably shaped resonant cavity, wider at one end than the other, the radiation pressure exerted by the microwaves at the wide end would be higher than at the narrow one.

Key is the fact that the diameter of a tubular cavity alters the path - and hence the effective velocity - of the microwaves travelling through it. Microwaves moving along a relatively wide tube follow a more or less uninterrupted path from end to end, while microwaves in a narrow tube move along it by reflecting off the walls. The narrower the tube gets, the more the microwaves get reflected and the slower their effective velocity along the tube becomes. Shawyer calculates the microwaves striking the end wall at the narrow end of his cavity will transfer less momentum to the cavity than those striking the wider end (see Diagram). The result is a net force that pushes the cavity in one direction. And that's it, Shawyer says.

Hang on a minute, though. If the cavity is to move, it must be pushed by something. A rocket engine, for example, is propelled by hot exhaust gases pushing on the rear of the rocket. How can photons confined inside a cavity make the cavity move? This is where relativity and the strange nature of light come in. Since the microwave photons in the waveguide are travelling close to the speed of light, any attempt to resolve the forces they generate must take account of Einstein's special theory of relativity. This says that the microwaves move in their own frame of reference. In other words they move independently of the cavity - as if they are outside it. As a result, the microwaves themselves exert a push on the cavity.
"How can photons confined inside a cavity make the cavity move? This is where relativity and the strange nature of light come in"

Each photon that a magnetron fires into the cavity creates an equal and opposite reaction - like the recoil force on a gun as it fires a bullet. With Shawyer's design, however, this force is minuscule compared with the forces generated in the resonant cavity, because the photons reflect back and forth up to 50,000 times. With each reflection, a reaction occurs between the cavity and the photon, each operating in its own frame of reference. This generates a tiny force, which for a powerful microwave beam confined in the cavity adds up to produce a perceptible thrust on the cavity itself.

Shawyer's calculations have not convinced everyone. Depending on who you talk to Shawyer is either a genius or a purveyor of snake oil. David Jefferies, a microwave engineer at the University of Surrey in the UK, is adamant that there is an error in Shawyer's thinking. "It's a load of bloody rubbish," he says. At the other end of the scale is Stepan Lucyszyn, a microwave engineer at Imperial College London. "I think it's outstanding science," he says. Marc Millis, the engineer behind NASA's programme to assess revolutionary propulsion technology accepts that the net forces inside the cavity will be unequal, but as for the thrust it generates, he wants to see the hard evidence before making a judgement.
Thrust from a box

Shawyer's electromagnetic drive - emdrive for short - consists in essence of a microwave generator attached to what looks like a large copper cake tin. It needs a power supply for the magnetron, but there are no moving parts and no fuel - just a cord to plug it into the mains. Various pipes add complexity, but they are just there to keep the chamber cool. And the device seems to work: by mounting it on a sensitive balance, he has shown that it generates about 16 millinewtons of thrust, using 1 kilowatt of electrical power. Shawyer calculated that his first prototype had a Q of 5900. With his second thruster, he managed to raise the Q to 50,000 allowing it to generate a force of about 300 millinewtons - 100 times what Cosmos 1 could achieve. It's not enough for Earth-based use, but it's revolutionary for spacecraft.

One of the conditions of Shawyer's £250,000 funding from the UK's Department of Trade and Industry is that his research be independently reviewed, and he has been meticulous in cataloguing his work and in measuring the forces involved. "It's not easy because the forces are tiny compared to the weight of the equipment," he says.

Optimising the cavity is crucial, and it's as much art as science. Energy leaks out in all kinds of ways: microwaves heat the cavity, for example, changing its electrical characteristics so that it no longer resonates. At very high powers, microwaves can rip electrons out of the metal, causing sparks and a dramatic loss of power. "It can be a very fine balancing act," says Shawyer.

To review the project, the UK government hired John Spiller, an independent space engineer. He was impressed. He says the thruster's design is practical and could be adapted fairly easily to operate in space. He points out, though, that the drive needs to be developed further and tested by an independent group with its own equipment. "It certainly needs to be flown experimentally," he says.

Armed with his prototypes, the test measurements and Spiller's review, Shawyer is now presenting his design to the space industry. The reaction in China and the US has been markedly more enthusiastic than that in Europe. "The European Space Agency knows about it but has not shown any interest," he says. The US air force has already paid him a visit, and a Chinese company has attempted to buy the intellectual property associated with the thruster. This month, he will be travelling to both countries to visit interested parties, including NASA.
"A Chinese company has tried to buy rights to the microwave thruster"
To space and beyond

His plan is to license the technology to a major player in the space industry who can adapt the design and send up a test satellite to prove that it works. If all goes to plan, Shawyer believes he could see the engine tested in space within two years. He estimates that his thruster could save the space industry $15 billion over the next 10 years. Spiller is more cautious. While the engine could certainly reduce the launch weight of a satellite, he doubts it will significantly increase its lifetime since other parts will still wear out. The space industry might not need to worry after all.

Meanwhile Shawyer is looking ahead to the next stage of his project. He wants to make the thrusters so powerful that they could make combustion engines obsolete, and that means addressing the big problem with conventional microwave cavities - the amount of energy they leak. The biggest losses come from currents induced in the metal walls by the microwaves, which generate heat when they encounter electrical resistance. This uses up energy stored in the cavity, reduces the Q, and the thrust generated by the engine drops.

Fortunately particle accelerators use microwave cavities too, so physicists have done a lot of work on reducing Q losses inside them. The key, says Shawyer, is to make the cavity superconducting. Without electrical resistance, currents in the cavity walls will not generate heat. Engineers in Germany working on the next generation of particle accelerators have achieved a Q of several billion using superconducting cavities. If Shawyer can match that performance, he calculates that the thrust from a microwave engine could be as high as 30,000 newtons per kilowatt - enough to lift a large car.

This raises another question. Why haven't physicists stumbled across the effect before? They have, says Shawyer, and they design their cavities to counter it. The forces inside the latest accelerator cavities are so large that they stretch the chambers like plasticine. To counteract this, engineers use piezoelectric actuators to squeeze the cavities back into shape. "I doubt they've ever thought of turning the force to other uses," he says.

No doubt his superconducting cavities will be hard to build, and Shawyer is realistic about the problems he is likely to meet. Particle accelerators made out of niobium become superconducting at the temperature of liquid helium - only a few degrees above absolute zero. That would be impractical for a motor, Shawyer believes, so he wants to find a material that superconducts at a slightly higher temperature, and use liquid hydrogen, which boils at 20 kelvin, as the coolant. Hydrogen could also power a fuel cell or turbine to generate electricity for the emdrive.

In the meantime, he wants to test the device with liquid nitrogen, which is easier to handle. It boils at 77 kelvin, a temperature that will require the latest generation of high-temperature ceramic superconductors. Shawyer hasn't yet settled on the exact material, but he admits that any ceramic will be tricky to incorporate into the design because of its fragility. It will have to be reliably bonded to the inside of a cavity and mustn't crack or flake when cooled. There are other problems too. The inside of the cavity will still be heated by the microwaves, and this will possibly quench the superconducting effect. "Nobody has done this kind of work," Shawyer says. "I'm not expecting it to be easy."

Then there is the issue of acceleration. Shawyer has calculated that as soon as the thruster starts to move, it will use up energy stored in the cavity, draining energy faster than it can be replaced. So while the thrust of a motionless emdrive is high, the faster the engine moves, the more the thrust falls. Shawyer now reckons the emdrive will be better suited to powering vehicles that hover rather than accelerate rapidly. A fan or turbine attached to the back of the vehicle could then be used to move it forward without friction. He hopes to demonstrate his first superconducting thruster within two years.

What of the impact of such a device? On my journey home I have plenty of time to speculate. No need for wheels, no friction. Shawyer suggested to me before I left that a hover car with an emdrive thruster cooled and powered by hydrogen could be a major factor in converting our society from a petrol-based one to one based on hydrogen. "You need something different to persuade people to make the switch. Perhaps being able to move in three dimensions rather than two would do the trick."

What about aircraft without wings? I'm aware that my feeling of scepticism is being replaced by a more dangerous one of unbounded optimism. In five minutes of blue-sky thinking you can dream up a dozen ways in which the emdrive could change the world. I have an hour ahead of me. The end of wings and wheels. Now there's a thought.
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I'll be impressed when they build a working model.
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As Spock would say: "Fascinating".

This should prove very usefull (assuming it works). Now we just need kilometer high skyscrapers and turbolasers and we can adopt the Imperial March as the anthem of the FIRST EARTH EMPIRE!

Baaaack on topic, I'd like to see a demonstration of the prototype.
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It won't work. When the microwaves bounce against the side of inclined tubes, they generate a reaction force. Although the force on the sides of the chamber is small per unit area, the area of the sides of the chamber are always just big enough such that its equal (and opposite) to the difference in forces on the two ends.

It's the same reason, really, that a gas-filled tube the same shape doesn't go off in one direction either.
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Wings would still be used because even minor lift takes load off the engine. There's never going to be an engine so awesome it's not worth being more efficient.

I don't know. It should be possible to generate thrust solely from energy(See Photon Drives and other such), but I'm not sure if this is on the level.
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With his second thruster, he managed to raise the Q to 50,000 allowing it to generate a force of about 300 millinewtons - 100 times what Cosmos 1 could achieve.
Well, there's definitely something going on that's generating a force. I won't presume to judge the matter given I have an extremely limited understanding of relativity. An open system in a closed cylinder is a little hard to wrap my head around.
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Alan Bolte wrote:
With his second thruster, he managed to raise the Q to 50,000 allowing it to generate a force of about 300 millinewtons - 100 times what Cosmos 1 could achieve.
Well, there's definitely something going on that's generating a force. I won't presume to judge the matter given I have an extremely limited understanding of relativity. An open system in a closed cylinder is a little hard to wrap my head around.
The law of conservation of momentum is valid in relativity as it is in Newtonian mechanics. In order to move 1 kg due east at 1 m/s, you have to throw something else due west with 1 kg·m/s. To wit, in order for a net force to have any magnitude in one direction, something else has to manifest a force in the opposite direction.

I'm looking at the magnitron as the likely source of the missing counterbalance force. Is it on the scale, too? Probably not, because they're heavy and would make the force scales hard to calibrate. But if it isn't, the counterbalancing force might be there, unnoticed and giving us yet another red herring.

Relativity does NOT allow you to conjure up ghostly, unbalanced forces. Something else MUST be going on, and there even might be some interesting physics in effect, but this guy's reasoning is dead wrong.
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Rather than immediately dismissing it, let's wait to see if further research yields anything. They have something going on at this point, and that's sufficient cause to hope.

Assuming it works, I'm thinking of some giant Manji-style airships... how awesome would that be?
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I'm not hopeful. If the guy said, "I found this wierd phenomena, and I can reproduce it like so, but I don't know how it works," then I'd be more willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. But the physics he uses to justify the phenominon is just plain wrong, wrong, wrong.

I'm waiting for replication and a proper explanation before I give this guy any credit.
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It's a steaming load. Period. End of story. The writer doesn't know jack shit.

This article has actually spawned some protests, for lack of a better word, to New Scientist, which has been losing a lot of respectibility lately.
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I was going over this elsewhere when I got the print edition of the magazine carrying this story. New Scientist has always been popular science toned down for the Layman, but it is evident even to me now that they're going the way of Popular Mechanics and TV shows by toning it down so much, that they let in stuff that sounds magical and often is (being it doesn't work in our universe).

That isn't what annoys me. That Shawyer got backing from British gov't departments and NASA is the more concerning issue. If the people who are meant to dictate transportation, military and scientific developments can't see this is of limited, if any, real use, then what chance has the public? I usually dissect the biology leading articles that are a bit OTT. The life surviving at -290 degrees C was interesting and plausible, but it came off in some respects with the idea that you could have a viable biosphere on a frigid rock with only liquid nitrogen for comfort. Life needs to get going first and this cold life is really only in stasis.

Glorified maglev if you can get the power source compact enough, but other than that, you won't get more out of it than you put in. Reactionless drives are a direct insult to relativity and something I abhor in sci-fi, letalone reality. In this age of Intelligent Designers and free energy peddlers, it's hard to give real science the edge over what people want to be real, but which inevitably is baloney. This week's issue dealt with a Canadian scientist on the changing of fundamental laws of the universe over time. I didn't bother reading, since every metric altering theory I've heard has come from Creationist mouthpieces or people too giddy to check their sums over.
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SirNitram wrote:Wings would still be used because even minor lift takes load off the engine. There's never going to be an engine so awesome it's not worth being more efficient.
Wings are also useful for when the engine stops working (and sooner or later, any engine design is going to have a failure). I'd much rather glide to a landing than drop like a rock - wouldn't you?

Also, despite powered ships we still have people who sail ships. Despite cars people still ride horses. Wheels and wings won't completely disappear even if some new hypothetical technology could replace them in major areas.
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Feh, I had a chance to read the attached paper, and I'm not impressed. There are no standard deviations on his "maximum specific thrust" result. Very naughty! Hell, there's no data on how dithering with the variables affects the supposed thrust, which he supposedly did to get the maximum specific thrust. There's no detalied description of the dimensions of the engine so that it can be properly replicated.

As for the theory, not only does it propose a preferred frame of reference for the engine (the frame in which the engine has no thrust :wtf:), but clearly the guy hasn't taken account of the force that should clearly be acting on the tapered waveguide walls because of the microwaves' group velocity slowing down as it nears the narrow end and speeding up as it nears the wide end. Methinks here is the missing force.

My bullshit detector, which was pinging before, is now screaming in my ear. Off this goes into the circular file.
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My scepticism got triggered off by the drivel about the Big Corporate/Government Conspiracy to suppress the Big Discovery to keep themselves in business. That little tinge of paranoia's always a dead giveaway that there's less than meets the eye.

And even if the microwave thruster is valid in principle, that doesn't erase all the other engineering problems you have to deal with in building aircraft or spacecraft. It just changes the variables somewhat. Sorry, but until we see this experiment replicated by somebody who understands the actual physics of whatever's going on here, this Roger Shawyer's little more than England's Joseph Newman.
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Destructionator XIII wrote: First off, I apologize if I misread your post, but isn't -273 degrees C absolute zero? Thus, wouldn't something being colder than that be impossible in any case?
It should have been a "1" there, not a "2", but I neglected to recall I could edit my post. Nitrogen at liquid form is around that temperature, yes.
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In other news, I've invented a perpetual motion machine. I'll have a prototype to show the world in about... uh... look a baby pigeon!

*flees*
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LordShaithis wrote:In other news, I've invented a perpetual motion machine. I'll have a prototype to show the world in about... uh... look a baby pigeon!

*flees*
No no no —what you say is that you have the design for the PMM, but the corporations have told you that your life is at stake if you publish it, but you can still somehow sell it clandestinely for oh, say, $500 a copy. To help you get it on the market with the necessary funding, of course.
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