Steam and Steel: AltHist. Victorian STGOD

Crossroads Inc. · Post by **Crossroads Inc.** » 2006-09-23 12:27pm

Woot! Heres to the 400th post of what promises to be an awesome new Game

Hats off to Thirdfain for keeping it going.

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2006-09-23 12:54pm

Crossroads Inc. wrote:Step one: Select area of GoogleEarth you want to turn into a map.
Step two: Take Screen Cap.
Step three: Open in a program like Adobe Illustrator and "Trace" the outline of the area making a black and white map.
Scale to your pleasure,
Add color and NAtion stuff using a Paint Program.
Step four: goto bed waaaaay past when you should be...

Ok, that confirms that it's not an option of GoogleEarth

Will have to use a normal standard map of Java. Don't have time nor skill to muck around with drawing programs

Adrian Laguna · Post by **Adrian Laguna** » 2006-09-23 01:49pm

Murazor wrote:Is the area around Tanzania still free? If so, I'd like to claim it for the Spanish Domain of East Africa.

The Spaniards did not have any colonies in East Africa. Though neither did the Russians have anything in New Guinea, or the Germans own Madagascar. But anyway, someone already has an ex-Spanish colony, why don't you try an European power not used yet? Like Italy, some Italians would be nice to have.

Seems this has been forgotten or unnoticed:

Thirdfain wrote:
Adrian Laguna wrote:
Thirdfain wrote: Interesting point. I'll have to think about it.
Just thought of another part of the issue for you to think about. Having only a small group of islands that can go toe-to-toe with larger nations gives an unfair advantage. Since they're so small, defending the Maldives is very easy. It's possible for the Sultanate to have all islands covered, yet be able swiftly concentrate to respond to emergencies in critical areas, and still have ships left over for offensive operations.
Sold.

Weemadando, it will be necessary for you to take more territory, that or have one of your industrial resources pared. Sound fair?

I think the best solution is to simply put one or more decent sized islands next to the Maldives themselves and have Ando make them part of his nation. No need to change resources, no need for him to take a tract of land a great distance from his home isles. This game already has fictional islands, adding a couple extra shouldn't be a problem.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2006-09-23 03:00pm

I think the best solution is to simply put one or more decent sized islands next to the Maldives themselves and have Ando make them part of his nation. No need to change resources, no need for him to take a tract of land a great distance from his home isles. This game already has fictional islands, adding a couple extra shouldn't be a problem.

Immediately agreed. A much better solution, good idea.

Attention!

It is my intention to stick a cute little title-peice on the first page of all of this game's threads, except, perhaps, the primary rules thread. If anyone is interested on making one for the Diplomacy thread, I would be eternally obliged.

Crossroads Inc. · Post by **Crossroads Inc.** » 2006-09-23 04:37pm

Two new Maps made For DAHAK and AWING

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2006-09-23 04:45pm

Crossroads Inc. wrote:Two new Maps made For DAHAK and AWING

Oh...shiny...

Thanks a bunch, hon

A-Wing_Slash · Post by **A-Wing_Slash** » 2006-09-23 05:34pm

Thanks a lot crossroads.

Adrian Laguna · Post by **Adrian Laguna** » 2006-09-23 11:35pm

Straha wrote: The Imperial Guard 2,000 Men (for 90 Points)

The elite of the elite. The Tsar’s personal bodyguard, almost all came with the Tsar to New Guinea, or made their way there after the overthrow of Alexander. Trained to crack discipline, equipped with the best equipment available (including field artillery contingents) in the pacific, and loyal to their Tsar to the Death. They mostly stay in the Capital of Mariasburgh as the ceremonial guard for the Tsar. They are also the only all white unit in the Army.

That unit is worth too many points or has too few men (take you pick). Thirdfain said, "You recieve 200 men per point spent, or 50 men mounted on horse, further points can be used to increase capability up to 3 times their cost, or up to six times their cost if they have modern artillery." Your unit here is worth nine times the base cost. Luckily for you, there is a very simple fix. Just change the size of the Imperial Guard to 3000 men and you should be all set.

Crossroads Inc. · Post by **Crossroads Inc.** » 2006-09-23 11:59pm

MAP UPDATE!

And BOY is it getting crowded in the Eastren Sea!

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2006-09-24 06:17pm

A quick note- I've just gone through and fixed most of my posts- the Queen of Portugal is Maria III Ana Wadiyar de Braganca, not Maria II. My bust!

Agent Fisher · Post by **Agent Fisher** » 2006-09-24 06:24pm

Sorry guys, lack of time, means I'm out of this.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2006-09-24 07:05pm

Agent Fisher will be missed, but otherwise, everything is prepared. I think we've got the rules more or less worked out, and we've got a solid campaign map.

Notice

I will be starting the main game thread next Sunday. Anyone who has posted in the main OOB thread at that point may begin posting, so get moving on those orders of battle!

Anyone who needs help with their nation map, PM me or ask Crossroads Inc., for assistance.

Let's get this muthafuckin' game on the road, kids!

Crossroads Inc. · Post by **Crossroads Inc.** » 2006-09-24 10:21pm

So what happens to Agents Island? Does it retain the resources alloted? will it be a land grab once the game starts?

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2006-09-24 10:22pm

Can some one give me a quick run down? And are you still willing to accept people?

Bugsby · Post by **Bugsby** » 2006-09-24 10:26pm

I would like an opportunity to get on this as well. I've been off SDnet since STGOD4, since I was convinced that nothing could live up to the good times I had in that game. But Third begged at me a bit, and reading through this thread.... well, this looks like fun.

So, uh, is there anywhere on the map NOT taken?

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2006-09-24 10:29pm

I'd like to lay a preliminary claim to Nippon if I may.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2006-09-24 10:32pm

Nippon is an NPC nation, and is quite off-limits. Unclaimed territories include a number of East Indian islands as well as large stretches of the African coast.

The island currently claimed by Agent Fisher is once more open,

Crossroads Inc. · Post by **Crossroads Inc.** » 2006-09-24 10:33pm

Right now the most open areas on the map aare the regions above and bellow Sir Nit's Land. The islands in the east are really too crowded for their own good, so I'd look toward Africa.

Bugsby · Post by **Bugsby** » 2006-09-24 10:35pm

Assuming there are no problems, I'll take the area immediately to the north of Nitram.

Brainstorming nation and OOB. Already have some idea, you might see something complete by me within the next couple hours.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2006-09-24 10:39pm

Thirdfain wrote:Nippon is an NPC nation, and is quite off-limits. Unclaimed territories include a number of East Indian islands as well as large stretches of the African coast.

Hmmmmmm.

Would it be possible claim Agent Fisher's isle and go with a nation of Japanese exiles sent there after the reforms launched in the mid-1800s?

And exactly how does all the resources work?

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2006-09-24 10:43pm

All game rules are in the Main Rules Thread on this page of G&C, and you may absolutely set up said nation on fisher's old stomping grounds.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2006-09-24 11:04pm

Thirdfain wrote:All game rules are in the Main Rules Thread on this page of G&C, and you may absolutely set up said nation on fisher's old stomping grounds.

Okay, that sounds good. I think I'll take that and have my nation at least claim the nearer small islands.

I did have one question, how are a nations starting resources determined? I assume based on historical locations of such things?

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2006-09-24 11:10pm

Nope. Starting resources are entirely random. Some resources are more common than others- however, I might just give you Fisher's resources- Coal, Cotton, Food, Rare Metals, and Spices. A pretty good spread, what with the Rares...

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2006-09-24 11:14pm

Thirdfain wrote:Nope. Starting resources are entirely random. Some resources are more common than others- however, I might just give you Fisher's resources- Coal, Cotton, Food, Rare Metals, and Spices. A pretty good spread, what with the Rares...

The spread works just fine by me. I was just wondering how that worked out was all.

Bugsby · Post by **Bugsby** » 2006-09-24 11:24pm

The African States of America
The ASA

The Americas were hit as hard as any by the Great War. The violence and instability of the wars in Europe carried over to America, where the Civil War had broken out at almost the exact same time as the Great War. But the Confederates were not easily crushed by the numerically and industrially superior Union, as several European nations threw their support behind the CSA in order to gain one form of advantage or another in their own wars. As a result, when the first Civil War drew to a close in 1863, America was torn and bloody. The merciless nature of the combat made many American families unhappy with where they lived, in a broken country filled with bad memories. And so, in true American tradition, they moved West. The mid-1860s saw a massive emmigration to fill up all the empty space to the west. The west coast became the destination of choice for the settlers. It was a rich land that promised a new beginning.

Because of the expansion of the general American populace across the continent from coast to coast, the Second Civil War did not stop at the Mississippi. Brother fought brother from New York to California. Gen. William Sherman was the commander of the Union Army in the second war, and he introduced his style of total war from the onset. The Confederates, quick to learn, countered with their own capaign of total war. As Sherman pushed to the south in his now infamous March to the Sea, Confederate Gen. Jackson pushed north in his own infamous March to the Lakes, destroying the northern agricultural industry in Ohio and razing the great railroad center of Chicago. Fighting all across the continent targeted both soldiers and civilians.

At the end of the war, the American people could again no longer stand to live in the land that held too many bad memories. And again, they moved west.

The American exodus across the Pacific was long and hard. Settlements flourished on the small islands across the Pacific that already held some form of colonization, like Hawaii. But when the Americans landed in the East Indies, they found those lands already occupied by a growing number of regional powers, some recently displaced from Europe, some just beginning to spring up. Finding no welcome, some turned back, but many pressed on, driven by the hope that somewhere to the west they would find a place to call home. For the American settlers, it was always to the west.

They found their home when they had sailed all the way across the Indian Ocean, to land on the eastern horn of Africa. What few colonial garrisons had once occupied this land were splintered and destroyed by the global ravages of the great war. To the north was the rule of the Kaliphat, to the south, the growing Luminiferia. But in this stretch of land, the Americans found a place where they could live.

The first landings were made by General George Custer, whose belief in manifest destiny and disdain for the native tribes is well-documented. This made him a particularly effective crusader, and he quickly pushed the local tribes away from the coastal areas, to make way for the settlers. His initial victories emboldened him, and he pushed too far into unfamiliar enemy territory, where he and his regiment were surrounded and destroyed. The natives tried to counter-attack to force the Americans off the coast, but reenforcements from the stream of ships now ariving steadily led to ruinous failure in the native counteroffensive. The Americans never again ventured too far inland, remembering too well the lesson of Custer, but the ground they already claimed already did stretch several hundred miles inland. They named their new land the African States of America.

In time, the Kaliphate expanded to the south, eliminating or enslaving the natives displaced by the Americans, and setting a very dangerous enemy at the Americans' back. There has been peace between the Kaliphate and the Americans ever since the ASA was established, and lucrative trade takes place between the nations. Yet relations are strained, because fifteen years after the founding of the ASA, the Americans are getting restless again. Already, they are looking to the west.

Always to the west.