Is this Noah's Ark?

Magnetic · Post by **Magnetic** » 2006-09-28 09:33am

This is from another forum. It was given as evidence of Noah's Ark.

My question is, . . . what actually caused this geologic feature?

+http://www.wyattmuseum.com/noahs-ark.htm

McC · Post by **McC** » 2006-09-28 10:10am

At a guess, I'd say the cause of this geologic feature is...

...Photoshop.

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You know, real peer-reviewed archaeology research does not look like that.

Magnetic · Post by **Magnetic** » 2006-09-28 11:26am

McC wrote:At a guess, I'd say the cause of this geologic feature is...

...Photoshop.

I thought it could be a photoshop-ed picture as well.

Big Phil · Post by **Big Phil** » 2006-09-28 11:58am

McC wrote:At a guess, I'd say the cause of this geologic feature is...

...Photoshop.

Also could have been (if it's not photoshopped)...

1) Plate Tectonics
2) Volcanism
3) Wind Erosion
4) Water Erosion
5) Landslides
6) Earthquakes

A geologist might be better equipped to answer the question though...

Crossroads Inc. · Post by **Crossroads Inc.** » 2006-09-28 12:01pm

ZOMG!!! it really IS Noahs Ark!!!

...

Becuase, you know... If a Ship actually WHERE shapped like that, I am just so sure it could actually work.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2006-09-28 12:05pm

I've seen that picture before, and it may be legit. But it's also obviously dirt and rock. It's more wishful thinking than evidence.

Crossroads Inc. · Post by **Crossroads Inc.** » 2006-09-28 12:10pm

I think it is more the fact that these people have been all over this thing and have yet to find, you know, an actual wooden timber. If that 'shape' was the depression of an ancient ship, there should be clear evidance of the wooden timbers. As it is, what they point to are formations that are obviously geological in nature.

More then that, do the '2 year old' test. Show this image to a 2yo and see what he says. Just looking at it, knowing nothing else, just looking at that shape, does 'boat' come to your mind immediatly?

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2006-09-28 12:27pm

Magnetic wrote:
McC wrote:At a guess, I'd say the cause of this geologic feature is...

...Photoshop.
I thought it could be a photoshop-ed picture as well.

It's a real feature in the area, and one that has supposedly been revered as being the ark for centuries; but that picture has been photoshopped indeed.
The real thing is nowhere near as symmetrical, and it's had it's features exaggerated.

Looky!

Not so perfectly symmetrical when seen from above (towards the left of the photo).

Magnetic · Post by **Magnetic** » 2006-09-28 12:30pm

When I saw it, at first I was thinking it was some sort of oddly shaped meteor crater. Pehaps a meteor at a near horizontal trajectory at impact, or a "cigar shaped" meteor. Remains of a boat? Highly doubtful.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2006-09-28 12:57pm

Its a geoform called a "double-sloping anticline". Basically you had flat layers of rock, then it was bent into an "A" shape forming an arch, then the ends of the arch were bent downward. After that, erosion came into play. The "walls" of the "ship" are a more resistant/durable rock which doesn't erode like the sediments outside and inside.

Nephtys · Post by **Nephtys** » 2006-09-28 01:14pm

Noah's Ark apparently is more whimsical name for a ditch.

Magnetic · Post by **Magnetic** » 2006-09-28 02:43pm

Well, I asked for their evidence, and this is what they posted, another link.

+http://www.foxnews.com/video2/launch...ch%20Page&News

Video is about 3 1/2 minutes.

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2006-09-28 02:47pm

Mag, you still fall into the trap of accepting these crazy claims. You shouldn't ask 'what caused this geological feature if NOT Noahs Ark', you should demand THEY prove it IS.

Kitsune · Post by **Kitsune** » 2006-09-28 03:20pm

There was a shoiw many years ago about that "Object" and they were suppose to have found metal in regular patterns. Could it be man-made for some purpose. Of course not a boat but it is an interesting feature.

Cao Cao · Post by **Cao Cao** » 2006-09-28 03:36pm

Oh yeah? Well I say it's the remains of the battleship New Jersey thrown back in time!
It was taken to the past to fight in a war against the evil overlords of Atlantis you see! Come on, prove that this isn't the New Jersey, prove it!!

Oh yeah and this involves the face on Mars somehow.

Magnetic · Post by **Magnetic** » 2006-09-28 03:56pm

Stark wrote:Mag, you still fall into the trap of accepting these crazy claims. You shouldn't ask 'what caused this geological feature if NOT Noahs Ark', you should demand THEY prove it IS.

This isn't necessarily a post where I'm not sure if I believe them or not, but one of, "look at the anemic claims they are clinging on to." I told them that IF they found petrified wood there, it could have come from anything. To bullseye any of this as "evidence of Noah's Ark" seems rediculous. The only pieces that MAY fit is that it's on a mountain, and there may be some wood.

Magnetic · Post by **Magnetic** » 2006-09-28 04:31pm

How is THIS for rich?

While debating on the other forum, the person actually stated (I asked proof of the flood) that anyone would understand and accept this information (the links I posted here) as fact, except atheist!!

In other words, you can't be a true Christian if you don't agree with the links, but are an atheist. Funny, I didn't accept it, yet I'm not an atheist.

Post by **Coyote** » 2006-09-28 04:42pm

Looks like an erosion crater; there is a huge one in Israel with a very, very similar formation, called Maktesh Ramon ("Ramon Crater"). Ironically enough, I know of it because that's where I did real archaeology, with careful measuring out, sector sketches, etc, at a pre-pottery Neolithic site from several thousand years ago.

Seeing the shape of a boat is just the human mind seeking to apply familiar (and desired) patterns in natural formations. Face on Mars, anyone?

Magnetic · Post by **Magnetic** » 2006-09-28 04:45pm

Coyote wrote:Looks like an erosion crater; there is a huge one in Israel with a very, very similar formation, called Maktesh Ramon ("Ramon Crater"). Ironically enough, I know of it because that's where I did real archaeology, with careful measuring out, sector sketches, etc, at a pre-pottery Neolithic site from several thousand years ago.

Seeing the shape of a boat is just the human mind seeking to apply familiar (and desired) patterns in natural formations. Face on Mars, anyone?

You wouldn't happen to have any links to some pictures, would you?

BTW, a direct quote from the person:

"It is impossible to be a Christian and not accept it. It is overwhelming."

Post by **Coyote** » 2006-09-28 04:51pm

Magnetic wrote:You wouldn't happen to have any links to some pictures, would you?

Pictures of what, the Maktesh Ramon? I have a few pix but nowhere to host them (bad coyote! bad!~~ need to get free web page to host pix!). But it has nothing to do with this Ark thingy.

BTW, a direct quote from the person:

"It is impossible to be a Christian and not accept it. It is overwhelming."

Heheheh... in other words, "I've accepted it, and you should too so I don't feel like a dumbass! Please, please, validate my hopes and dreams by becoming an agent in shoring up my fragile beliefs!"

Magnetic · Post by **Magnetic** » 2006-09-28 05:05pm

Coyote wrote:
Pictures of what, the Maktesh Ramon? I have a few pix but nowhere to host them (bad coyote! bad!~~ need to get free web page to host pix!). But it has nothing to do with this Ark thingy.

I'll try a Google search.

Coyote wrote:Heheheh... in other words, "I've accepted it, and you should too so I don't feel like a dumbass! Please, please, validate my hopes and dreams by becoming an agent in shoring up my fragile beliefs!"

I really believe that he thinks this all is the truth. But yes, he expects everyone to validate the claims that HE thinks is right.

kheegster · Post by **kheegster** » 2006-09-28 06:14pm

Personally, I think it looks like pussy lips.

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2006-09-28 08:00pm

An interesting and dishonest tack to play with creation-tards would be to play the strong creationist skeptic; that is, say something like: "I believe the bible is literally true, I believe in the global flood, yadda yadda, but I don't see why this would have to be Noah's Ark, it looks like a load of Rock. Why should I believe this is anything to do with the word of God himself, and not just the bizarre claim of someone wanting to see a boat instead of some rock?" That way, they've got to deal with skepticism over a specific claim and not an entire worldview.

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2006-09-29 01:06am

Wyatt is a con man. Google him.