female slavery

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2006-09-28 12:42pm

ok, one of my fmer co-workers just flew out of the country, and is now heading to pick up a teenager he bought to be his wife

from an agency in the phillipeans. ok, I thought that there were laws against slavery in this world, but in addition to marriage brokers in the middle east, out right genocidal slavers in africa, abducted russian and south american women forced into prositution, Goreans, and certain off shoot cults of the latterday saints it seems the traffic of female misiry is alive and well.

Guardsman Bass · Post by **Guardsman Bass** » 2006-09-28 01:17pm

What do you mean by 'buying' her? I've heard of some kind of program where a 'bride' is linked up with a First World guy so that she can get into the country with citizenship and the like. Since he was open about it, it might be something like that, unless the girl is underage.

Talanth · Post by **Talanth** » 2006-09-28 01:55pm

It sounds like somthing orgaised by marriage brokers. One of my friend's is half phillipeano, though I don't know how her parents met, but I've always gathered that her parents are both very happy together.

Then again it depends on the age of the teenager. If she's under age then everything changes (asuming this is all consensual).

Wanderer · Post by **Wanderer** » 2006-09-28 02:11pm

The Yosemite Bear wrote:ok, one of my fmer co-workers just flew out of the country, and is now heading to pick up a teenager he bought to be his wife from an agency in the phillipeans. ok, I thought that there were laws against slavery in this world, but in addition to marriage brokers in the middle east, out right genocidal slavers in africa, abducted russian and south american women forced into prositution, Goreans, and certain off shoot cults of the latterday saints it seems the traffic of female misiry is alive and well.

Don't forget bridal kidnapping in Kyrgyzstan, though less extreme nowadays, it still is quite a shocking experience.

Wanderer · Post by **Wanderer** » 2006-09-28 02:14pm

Ghetto edit: Forgot to add that, by less extreme, only half the marriages are done by kidnaps these days in Kyrgyzstan.

Korvan · Post by **Korvan** » 2006-09-28 03:45pm

Saw a documentary a while back that claimed there were about 27 million slaves worldwide. 22 million of them were in India, some sort of trans-generation indentured servatitude deal. it's illegal in India, but there's almost no inforcement.

Post by **Broomstick** » 2006-09-28 08:40pm

The Yosemite Bear wrote:ok, I thought that there were laws against slavery in this world, but in addition to marriage brokers in the middle east, out right genocidal slavers in africa, abducted russian and south american women forced into prositution, Goreans, and certain off shoot cults of the latterday saints it seems the traffic of female misiry is alive and well.

I'm sorry - you actually thought this had all stopped at some point?

Medic · Post by **Medic** » 2006-09-28 09:36pm

Broomstick wrote:
The Yosemite Bear wrote:ok, I thought that there were laws against slavery in this world, but in addition to marriage brokers in the middle east, out right genocidal slavers in africa, abducted russian and south american women forced into prositution, Goreans, and certain off shoot cults of the latterday saints it seems the traffic of female misiry is alive and well.
I'm sorry - you actually thought this had all stopped at some point?

Shit, he probably just bought out her contract.

In a sense, he probably just got her a quicker ticket out of the human-trafficing ring than her trying to woo men in prostitution rings or 'drinky girl' bars that you see in Korea and earn enough money for her employers to get out of it for good.

[Drinky girls are prostitutes, of a sorts, you pay to be your girlfriend -- I shit you not, that's an accurate characterization]

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2006-09-29 03:20am

Broomstick wrote:
The Yosemite Bear wrote:ok, I thought that there were laws against slavery in this world, but in addition to marriage brokers in the middle east, out right genocidal slavers in africa, abducted russian and south american women forced into prositution, Goreans, and certain off shoot cults of the latterday saints it seems the traffic of female misiry is alive and well.
I'm sorry - you actually thought this had all stopped at some point?

Well I was hoping that such behaviour was deminishing, but yes I know enough sociology to realize that women's rights are for ever going to be an uphill battle. then again the minority of women living in the first world are making some advances at curbing the neinderthal-ism.

Post by **weemadando** » 2006-09-29 04:23am

I get probably 1 or 2 people a week at work who clearly have mail order brides... Its surprisingly common.

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2006-09-29 05:28am

By the way, how socially inept does one have to be to have to buy a wife?

Post by **NecronLord** » 2006-09-29 06:13am

Superman wrote:By the way, how socially inept does one have to be to have to buy a wife?

Are you married? Because I have trouble believing that, Supes. When you move out of the greenhouse, then maybe you should think about throwing stones.

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2006-09-29 06:15am

Uh, yeah, he is married. He's posted wedding photos and everything. Hahah.

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2006-09-29 06:18am

NecronLord wrote:
Superman wrote:By the way, how socially inept does one have to be to have to buy a wife?
Are you married? Because I have trouble believing that, Supes. When you move out of the greenhouse, then maybe you should think about throwing stones.

Moved out, thought about it, and now I'm throwing.

Come on... You honestly think 'buying' a person is a good idea?

Post by **NecronLord** » 2006-09-29 06:18am

Rye wrote:Uh, yeah, he is married. He's posted wedding photos and everything. Hahah.

Great. Another pickaxe blow to my faith in humanity.

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2006-09-29 06:20am

NecronLord wrote:
Rye wrote:Uh, yeah, he is married. He's posted wedding photos and everything. Hahah.
Great. Another pickaxe blow to my faith in humanity.

I was about to say the same about people who have to buy a wife.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2006-09-29 06:25am

Superman wrote:Come on... You honestly think 'buying' a person is a good idea?

Allow me to put another spin on it.

Male Slavery, by Yos-the-Fillipino wrote:ok, one of my fmer co-workers just flew out of the country, and is now heading to the United States, courtesy of some desperate old man paying some agency over here for the pleasure of her questionable company. she's going to get him to marry her and get citizenship over there, and half his money, then either use him for money, or dump him and get half his stuff. ok, I thought that there were laws against slavery in this world, but in addition to marriage brokers in the middle east, out right genocidal slavers in africa, abducted russian and south american women forced into prositution, Goreans, and certain off shoot cults of the latterday saints it seems the traffic of stupid men is alive and well.

It takes two to tango. You think this kind of agency is going around kidnapping women off the streets? They're volunteers, matey, indeed, I'd say they get the better deal.

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2006-09-29 06:33am

When you move out of a crappy country for a wealthy gringo, I'm sure you do get a better deal.

Having to buy a bride is really just throwing in the towel. Having a foreign wife myself (and no, I didn't buy her... her family is way more fucking loaded), I can understand some of this.

I do know of a guy in LA who bought a wife from the Phils. She was a hooker. When she arrived, she started doing this while he was at work.

I still say it's generally not a good idea.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2006-09-29 06:43am

'Not a good idea' (and I'd certainly refuse to say whether it is or it isn't without quantative data, I do know of one instance where it's 'worked') doesn't make it slavery. Marrying a woman who descibes herself as 'No-Limits Pain Mistress Hesperax-Lucepherous' and has spikes surgically implanted in her face might not be a good idea, but it doesn't make it 'female slavery' does it?

Post by **weemadando** » 2006-09-29 06:44am

NecronLord wrote:
Superman wrote:Come on... You honestly think 'buying' a person is a good idea?
Allow me to put another spin on it.

Male Slavery, by Yos-the-Fillipino wrote:ok, one of my fmer co-workers just flew out of the country, and is now heading to the United States, courtesy of some desperate old man :shock: paying some agency over here for the pleasure of her questionable company. she's going to get him to marry her and get citizenship over there, and half his money, then either use him for money, or dump him and get half his stuff. ok, I thought that there were laws against slavery in this world, but in addition to marriage brokers in the middle east, out right genocidal slavers in africa, abducted russian and south american women forced into prositution, Goreans, and certain off shoot cults of the latterday saints it seems the traffic of stupid men is alive and well.
It takes two to tango. You think this kind of agency is going around kidnapping women off the streets? They're volunteers, matey, indeed, I'd say they get the better deal.

Attention fuck-ball.

Sex Slaves Yeah, because they're volunteers. You fucking moron. None are kidnapped at all. You absolutely despicable trashpile of meat.

According to the UN, Pan American Health Organisation, CIA and many many NGOs 50,000 women and children are trafficked to the US annually for the purpose of the sex trade. Many are lured by false advertising and the promise of work in various industries only to be forced into prostitution. But hey, it takes two to tango, right? Fuck you, you sick fucking arsehole.

Yes, I might appear to be a little passionate about this - because it fucking disturbs me to my core that fuckheads like you brush aside the biggest fucking slave trade the world has EVER seen with phrases like "They're volunteers, matey,". Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.

Post by **weemadando** » 2006-09-29 06:45am

BTW Necronlord - I desperately, desperately hope that you are joking... Or at the very least playing devil's advocate...

Post by **NecronLord** » 2006-09-29 06:49am

weemadando wrote:Yes, I might appear to be a little passionate about this

Yes indeed, if there was an Olympic sport in leaping to conclusions, you'd deserve a gold medal for that. I'm not talking about people trafficking, which I not only know all about but also regularly give part of my very meagre supply of money for (EDIT: Err, for combatting... Gah).

This isn't about people trafficing, dipshit, this is about mail-order brides. While I'm well aware that such is used as a cover by people trafficers, in this instance, one would assume if the man is flying out to the Phillipines to meet the woman, he's not planning to force her into prostitution. Particularly if he's already paid out.

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2006-09-29 07:01am

So why would anyone have to buy a goddamned mail order bride?

Marrying a woman you don't know is a good idea? This is not fucking India. The girl wants a one way ticket out of her country, and she's going to get it using whatever means she can.

Let's pretend for 2 seconds that it's not pathetic. Can the guy not meet women, or is it that he can't sustain any sort of relationship? Mail ordering brides is really sort of the last ditch attempt at a love life. If I'm wrong, I would love to hear why.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2006-09-29 07:02am

weemadando wrote:BTW Necronlord - I desperately, desperately hope that you are joking... Or at the very least playing devil's advocate...

Not really, no. I'm talking about the instance Yos came up with. Despite his naming of the thread as 'Female Slavery' and listing of various groups (Goreans, for Chrissakes), there's no evidence of any intention to mistreat the woman in question here in any way shape or form. Presuming the information provided is correct (which may not be accurate) it's highly unlikely - for a start, marrying the woman would require her to be registered as being in the country, No matter what provocative titles he's tagging on, I see nothing to presume any wrongdoing here.

I do believe I've gone on at considerable length about the continued existance of slavery elsewhere on these forums, along with various forms of genital mulilation and all my other various pet hates. Fact is, this isn't it.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2006-09-29 07:08am

Superman wrote:So why would anyone have to buy a goddamned mail order bride?

Lack of self confidence or charisma? Sheer ugliness? Who knows.

Marrying a woman you don't know is a good idea?

I really couldn't say. Haven't tried it. Haven't seen any credible data on success rates of such marriages. Of course, half the point of him going out there, I would presume, would be to get to know the woman...

This is not fucking India.

Damn them blecks!

The girl wants a one way ticket out of her country, and she's going to get it using whatever means she can.

Good for her. Good to see she's got a good route to do so.

Let's pretend for 2 seconds that it's not pathetic.

Pathetic is subjective, and comparative. We're all pathetic compared to Norman Borlaug.

Can the guy not meet women, or is it that he can't sustain any sort of relationship?

I would presume one or the other. See 'sheer ugliness' above. Oh, aye, forgot. Maybe he's really poorly endowed.

Mail ordering brides is really sort of the last ditch attempt at a love life. If I'm wrong, I would love to hear why.

No, you're not wrong.

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