Can Star Trek stand up to LotR?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-12-18 09:50pm

Like a frat boy at a binge-drinking contest.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-12-19 01:49am

Having just seen TTT, "Nemesis" doesn't even deserve to make five million this weekend. It's completely out of its league.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-12-19 01:52am

I'd really like to know how much TTT made today.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2002-12-19 01:27pm

Given that, for the first time since I came to West Virginia and saw the local multiplex, it was sold out of all showings of TTT, and the lines for into the theatre started an hour before(And were halfdown to the lobby at that time), and there wasn't a peep or beep from the Nemesis pit, I think it may be over, with Nemesis' bloody corpse being somewhere among the Uruk's.

CNS Sarajevo · Post by **CNS Sarajevo** » 2002-12-19 02:26pm

I saw Nemesis last night because I figured the lines would be short and I could get a good seat. The theater was a ghost town because it was between shows of TTT. The theater I was in had somewhere around two dozen people, total. On the way out, it was a mob scene, because the next shows of TTT were going in. I've never seen anything like it.

Enlightenment · Post by **Enlightenment** » 2002-12-19 06:25pm

The TTT gross figures are up on the-numbers.com. TTT's opening day outstripped STX's entire run to date by almost six million US dollars.

STX = dead on arrival.

C.S.Strowbridge · Post by **C.S.Strowbridge** » 2002-12-20 01:50pm

Enlightenment wrote:The TTT gross figures are up on the-numbers.com. TTT's opening day outstripped STX's entire run to date by almost six million US dollars.

STX = dead on arrival.

And those number are 45% better than the first one. Looks like it will be worst than I thought.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2002-12-20 02:09pm

C.S.Strowbridge wrote:
Enlightenment wrote:The TTT gross figures are up on the-numbers.com. TTT's opening day outstripped STX's entire run to date by almost six million US dollars.

STX = dead on arrival.
And those number are 45% better than the first one. Looks like it will be worst than I thought.

Repeat business for TTT will now be called 'Bayonetting the survivors'.

Andrew J. · Post by **Andrew J.** » 2002-12-20 03:00pm

SirNitram wrote:
C.S.Strowbridge wrote:
Enlightenment wrote:The TTT gross figures are up on the-numbers.com. TTT's opening day outstripped STX's entire run to date by almost six million US dollars.

STX = dead on arrival.
And those number are 45% better than the first one. Looks like it will be worst than I thought.
Repeat business for TTT will now be called 'Bayonetting the survivors'.

No, more like bayonetting them, shooting them in the head, and then dropping a 30-kiloton nuclear bomb on them.

Next of Kin · Post by **Next of Kin** » 2002-12-22 11:51pm

Star Trek could learn a few things from LoTR. How to make an entertaining movie would be one of them.

Enlightenment · Post by **Enlightenment** » 2002-12-23 01:38am

Meanwhile....

http://the-numbers.com/charts/weekly/2002/20021220.html

Nemesis: "I'm melltinnng..."

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2002-12-23 02:40am

I saw The Two Towers at a midnight showing on Tuesday with ym cousin and friend. It was showing at midnight in five or more theatres at the local AMC 30. After the film was over, it took about a half hour to get out of the parking lot.

I'm fairly certain that Nemesis started screaming for its mama that night.

Admiral Griffith · Post by **Admiral Griffith** » 2002-12-23 09:52am

aerius wrote:
neoolong wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:It all depends on repeat-viewers. Modern film box-office grosses are heavily dependent on teenagers seeing a movie 10 times. This is something that James Cameron demonstrated quite clearly to the world with Titanic; make a mediocre movie that teenagers will see 30 times apiece for whatever reason (dating, in the case of Titanic), and you will make zillions of dollars. Make a great movie that people only see once (eg- "The Usual Suspects"), and you will make modest money. And all points in between.
But in the age of DVD and large flat screen tvs, how likely is someone to watch a movie in the theater THAT many times?
Never underestimate the power of the lifeless teeny-bopper!! Ever wonder what happens when those kiddies have way too much time and money to burn? Wonder no more, they'll watch the movie over and over and over until they know every single line. It's sick I tell you, sick!

I don't think it's sick, but hey, i'm a teenager myself. saw AOTC in the theaters about, oh, 13 times.

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-12-23 10:10am

Enlightenment wrote:Meanwhile....

http://the-numbers.com/charts/weekly/2002/20021220.html

Nemesis: "I'm melltinnng..."

Yeesh. This is too much to be a nail in the coffin. This is a freakin I-beam.

Post by **Vympel** » 2002-12-23 10:17am

What scares me about that link is how much money the fucking Santa Clause 2 made. Like god .... even if it's been on for some 52 days, it still boggles the mind at how many ppl would watch that shit.

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-12-23 10:23am

Vympel wrote:What scares me about that link is how much money the fucking Santa Clause 2 made. Like god .... even if it's been on for some 52 days, it still boggles the mind at how many ppl would watch that shit.

Never underestime the power of the whiny child.

Patrick Degan · Post by **Patrick Degan** » 2002-12-24 04:11am

Enlightenment wrote:Meanwhile....

http://the-numbers.com/charts/weekly/2002/20021220.html

Nemesis: "I'm melltinnng..."

A 76% dropoff in the boxoffice take in just one week. That is very bad news by any standard. This movie's sinking fast.

What a way for a franchise to die.

Sir Nitram wrote:Repeat business for TTT will now be called 'Bayonetting the survivors'.

In the movie Dillinger (1971 —starring Warren Oats) Pretty Boy Floyd (Harry Dean Stanton) is stranded in a rural town, where Federal agents, county deputies, and ordinary townspeople are waiting to trap the gangster. Hit in the resulting shootout, Pretty Boy finds himself surrounded by the posse —all standing over him with their rifles, shotguns, pistols, and tommyguns— and asks for a doctor. Camera pulls back to a long-distance view as the entire posse opens up on Pretty Boy Floyd, blasting him to pieces.

That's the metaphor for what TTT is doing to STN.

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2002-12-24 06:35am

It will vanish from the theaters quickly.
And then, with it's vhs/dvd relase it will descend into the pit of the forgotten movies. Forever.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-12-24 02:11pm

Sokar wrote:Can Nemesis stand up to TTT ?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHHHAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thats a good one..........Are you serious ? (I know your not )
Nemesis is going to be a dust fart in a hurricane next to TTT, I really think English lacks an adjective powerful enough to describe the beatdown level were talking here......

I think they may have had one during the roman invasion.

It may have been along the lines of

OH FUCK TIMES A BILLION!

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-12-24 02:14pm

Admiral Griffith wrote:
aerius wrote:
neoolong wrote: But in the age of DVD and large flat screen tvs, how likely is someone to watch a movie in the theater THAT many times?
Never underestimate the power of the lifeless teeny-bopper!! Ever wonder what happens when those kiddies have way too much time and money to burn? Wonder no more, they'll watch the movie over and over and over until they know every single line. It's sick I tell you, sick!
I don't think it's sick, but hey, i'm a teenager myself. saw AOTC in the theaters about, oh, 13 times.

I saw LotR:TFotR about four or five times. I only paid once however

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2002-12-24 02:19pm

NecronLord wrote: I saw LotR:TFotR about four or five times. I only paid once however

Hid in the theater?

Soulman · Post by **Soulman** » 2002-12-24 02:40pm

As well as being far better TTT also appeals to a helluva lot more people. I went to see TTT on saturday and there was even a bunch of young laides there! Where as Nemesis will only appeal to relativly few.

They had at leats 1 year notice that TTT was going to be release in December, WHY THE HELL RELEASE A COMPETING FILM!!! Are they morons or something!

Post by **NecronLord** » 2002-12-24 02:44pm

Cpt_Frank wrote:
NecronLord wrote: I saw LotR:TFotR about four or five times. I only paid once however
Hid in the theater?

LoL

Vendetta · Post by **Vendetta** » 2002-12-24 04:44pm

Sensibly, Nemesis isn't even being released in the UK for another fortnight, waiting until the initial rush for TTT has died off, and the people who would naturally watch it can fit it in between watching TTT again.

When it comes to totals, TTT had made $100,000,000 in the US by Sunday (and will probably have made at least $150,000,000 elsewhere)

It looks well set to follow the first one right up the all time charts.

Nemesis is not competition for it, Chamber of Secrets might be. (already the 17th highest grossing film in the world ever)