Ridiculously hard games

Trogdor · Post by **Trogdor** » 2006-09-30 08:32pm

1123581321 wrote:There is some Star Trek game for the PS, where you fly a fighter. I found that game to be really hard. It didn't help that I wasn't interested enough to try to get good at it though.

That would be Shattered Universe, and that game was indeed absurdly hard. Enemy capital ships carried a literally endless supply of fighters, while you, if you were lucky, usually had two wingmen. You had to blow up the cap ships to stop the fighters from coming at you, but, IIRC, none of them had a spot where you could just sit and hammer away at them without their much more powerful guns being able to get you. The Consitition-class might've been the exception, but I'm not sure.

Then there was the fact that enemy ships didn't get any less deadly as they got more and more damaged. They'd keep firing until the moment they exploded.

I think I started using the invulnerablity cheat in the level against the M5 unit's fleet. I still had a hard time with the last level, though, since you're not allowed the blow up the enemy capital ship and yours isn't affected by the cheat codes.

The sad thing was, the game had some pretty nifty moments storywise, whenever it wasn't just shamelessly copying TOS. I especially liked the bit near the end when the Klingons and the Romulans show up to save you.

Bugsby · Post by **Bugsby** » 2006-09-30 09:11pm

Final Fantasy Tactics. I've been playing it (for the first time!) this last week or so, and it's kicking my ass.

Shadowtraveler · Post by **Shadowtraveler** » 2006-09-30 09:44pm

Shinobi. The bosses are beatable, but that really doesn't say much.

Ravencrow · Post by **Ravencrow** » 2006-09-30 10:05pm

Grand Thief Auto has some very frustrating missions as I recalled. Almost every mission after the first few ones had to be attempted at least more than 3 times before I got it right.

Sam Or I · Post by **Sam Or I** » 2006-10-01 12:06am

Bugsby wrote:Final Fantasy Tactics. I've been playing it (for the first time!) this last week or so, and it's kicking my ass.

But it is worth the ass kicking.

One of my all time favorite games.

Post by **RogueIce** » 2006-10-01 12:22am

Bugsby wrote:Final Fantasy Tactics. I've been playing it (for the first time!) this last week or so, and it's kicking my ass.

I can't get past Delitia to save my life. Which sucks, because it's this rainy level which is really cool.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2006-10-01 02:03am

The key to FFT, is to learn how to gain massive levels(while you may not have equipment in the first chapter, having a huge amount of skills and a Monk make some areas shit loads easier to get by)

Step one, find a random battle, with preferablly pitiful enemies(Regular Chocobo, shit like that), and make sure one person has the ability to heal.

Step two, kill everything but your mark.

Step three, uneqiup weapons and whack on beastie with fist, and heal every round...you'll gain job experience and while long and boring it does alleviate some of the hideous curve of the game(there are more then a few battles that are "Protect this useless lump from being killed...oh and watch as he CHARGES the boss"

Though most of the hardest games I've faced were shooters. Ikaruga wasn't too bad until the much later levels, some like Radiant Silvergun and few of that era were worse for the whole "Screen of Death".

Hawkwings · Post by **Hawkwings** » 2006-10-01 02:52am

Mechassault 2. That stupid end boss... ugh... I shoot his head open, deactivate the shield, but then my mortar shots DON'T GO IN!!!

DarkSilver · Post by **DarkSilver** » 2006-10-01 05:47am

Super Punch Out

cheating peice of shit fucking boxing game....

Crazedwraith · Post by **Crazedwraith** » 2006-10-01 07:37am

Trogdor wrote:
1123581321 wrote:There is some Star Trek game for the PS, where you fly a fighter. I found that game to be really hard. It didn't help that I wasn't interested enough to try to get good at it though.
That would be Shattered Universe,.

Alternatively it could be Star Trek: Invasion for the PS1. SU was for the PS2. IIRC Invasion is pretty diffcult and has some wierd ass controls. I was getting stuck in the first few missions.

EDIY: rampant typos

lance · Post by **lance** » 2006-10-01 07:43pm

Ghost Rider wrote:The key to FFT, is to learn how to gain massive levels(while you may not have equipment in the first chapter, having a huge amount of skills and a Monk make some areas shit loads easier to get by)

Step one, find a random battle, with preferablly pitiful enemies(Regular Chocobo, shit like that), and make sure one person has the ability to heal.

Step two, kill everything but your mark.

Step three, uneqiup weapons and whack on beastie with fist, and heal every round...you'll gain job experience and while long and boring it does alleviate some of the hideous curve of the game(there are more then a few battles that are "Protect this useless lump from being killed...oh and watch as he CHARGES the boss"

Though most of the hardest games I've faced were shooters. Ikaruga wasn't too bad until the much later levels, some like Radiant Silvergun and few of that era were worse for the whole "Screen of Death".

Just have ramza use yell while hasted. It allows you to max out a job in a battle, do this until you get everybody to have blade grasp and your set.
Or just get a calculator.

Darth Raptor · Post by **Darth Raptor** » 2006-10-01 08:15pm

No game has so thoroughly trounced by honor and shat all over my dignity more than Monster Hunter's single player campaign. My god, I can't even defeat a Kut-Ku (the weakest species of wyvern) by myself. The worst part was that the monsters were so beautiful and awesome I went out and got a Code Breaker just so I could play through the game. I don't regret it. That game has some of the best fictional animals ever created. I just wish it was a better game.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2006-10-01 08:31pm

There are some Grand Theft Auto (3 and beyond) missions which are somewhat difficult. The problem is the lack of quick saves and the very long missions latter in the game. Now you've spent 20 minutes on the mission and then due to bad luck get killed. Whoops, gotta replay.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2006-10-01 09:16pm

Mother fucking Battletoads, world-famously notorious for being impossibely hard...

Nephtys · Post by **Nephtys** » 2006-10-01 09:52pm

Wing Commander 1&2 Expansion Packs.

Secret Missions 1 and 2, and Special Operations 1 and 2 were both insanely hard.

Taking down Destroyers with fighter squadrons worth of escort in a /HORNET/? Dogfighting twelve Gothris in a /BROADSWORD/? Not to mention that godawful Deathtrap that was the Dralthi Mk2, or the ridiculously bad Crossbow bomber, both of which so thoughtfully provided as new ships.

Nothing's harder.

Hawkwings · Post by **Hawkwings** » 2006-10-02 12:22am

ooh...

Tetris. You always lose. It's inevitable. Resistance is Futile.

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2006-10-02 12:30am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Mother fucking Battletoads, world-famously notorious for being impossibely hard...

And it's many successors, like Battletoads and Double Dragon: The Ultimate Team. Holy shit, making it past the third level in that game is a feat in and of itself.

Crossroads Inc. · Post by **Crossroads Inc.** » 2006-10-02 12:31am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Mother fucking Battletoads, world-famously notorious for being impossibely hard...

There is one level I never passed in which you has to beat a rat to the bottom to stop him from setting off a bomb. On the second level of this, there is a posion gas vent.

If you keep running, you hit the gas and die.
If you wait, the rat passes you and you never catch him, and then you die.

Never passed it.

Neko_Oni · Post by **Neko_Oni** » 2006-10-02 12:38am

Ninja Gaiden Black - extra difficulty levels for your added frustration. (That said harder levels on Black do at least change enemies add new bosses etc so at least it's more interesting as well).

I-War - the aforementioned dock with carrier, while under fire, using Newtionian physics. gah.

Geometry Wars Evolved - while it is a play till you lose game, it is insanely hard, my highest score is around 147 thousand, the highest on the leaderboard is around 240 million.

SylasGaunt · Post by **SylasGaunt** » 2006-10-02 12:50am

Darth Raptor wrote:No game has so thoroughly trounced by honor and shat all over my dignity more than Monster Hunter's single player campaign. My god, I can't even defeat a Kut-Ku (the weakest species of wyvern) by myself. The worst part was that the monsters were so beautiful and awesome I went out and got a Code Breaker just so I could play through the game. I don't regret it. That game has some of the best fictional animals ever created. I just wish it was a better game.

Wha.. the Kut-Ku owns you? And on single player at that (where the monsters are weaker than online)?

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2006-10-02 12:58am

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles I was also ridiculously hard. Fuck the purple seaweed of death.

Golan III · Post by **Golan III** » 2006-10-02 05:15am

Granted, it's on a console, but...I had a HELL of a time with Dark Forces 3 - Jedi Outcast on the Xbox...at least once the Shadowtroopers entered the fray. Fighting them or other Jedi opponents was near impossible as you could not access the force commands through the stupid fucking controller fast enough to stay alive in a choke hold, block lightning or force attacks, etc. Only by cheating was I able to finish the game. Same story in Jedi Academy.

Darth Raptor · Post by **Darth Raptor** » 2006-10-02 08:47am

SylasGaunt wrote:Wha.. the Kut-Ku owns you? And on single player at that (where the monsters are weaker than online)?

No, I just can't take a wyvern by myself. I choke. Hell, I felt proud when I defeated a Velocidrome on single player. I suck. T.T

Bounty · Post by **Bounty** » 2006-10-02 09:20am

I must've tried half a dozen times but I can't get past the first few missions in Robotech: Battlecry on the Cube.

Maybe I just don't get how you play the game. The weapons can't hit anything, the fighter design is retarded, for some reason your main guns work differently in every flight mode despite being the same fucking guns and it doesn't help that the scenery is so generic you never know if you're coming or going.

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles I was also ridiculously hard. Fuck the purple seaweed of death.

I've had that game for over sixteen years and I still can't get past level 3.

Arthur_Tuxedo · Post by **Arthur_Tuxedo** » 2006-10-02 12:25pm

I-War is a difficult game, but it's more of a steep learning curve game than an impossibly hard one. Once you really learn your angles and know your ship, and learn the art of manual control (and are playing in the external wireframe view), you can take on almost anything.

EDIT: Jedi Outcast's level before you get your Jedi powers is stupidly hard. The one where you're facing like hundreds of stormies and AT-ST's, including guys with rocket launchers and concussion rifles and you have no force powers. Has anyone ever done that without cheating?