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unfortunately true.[...] while anti-Semitism was merely a well accepted public opinion in Austria.
You obviously don't fucking get it, cunt. Homosexuality is BIOLOGICALLY BASED, just like being a member of the Jewish Race is. Quit fucking trying to justify the mass murder of gays by Hitler and their unjust arrest and detainment by others, you morally bankrupt smegma-breath!R.M. Schultz wrote:Okay, let’s make this really simple and see if anyone can figure it out:
[text smallified ~E. Sno] Alan Turing could have kept his damn pants up and obeyed the British anti-sodomy laws and stayed out of trouble. How could Einstein have avoided legal trouble under the Nünrnberg Laws? That is: how could have have legally ceased being a Jew?
He could have tried to fool people into thinking he was not a Jew, just as you suggest Turing could have tried to fool people into thinking he was not a homosexual. This point has been made many times already, and you are choosing to willfully ignore it. Answer the goddamned point right now, asshole.R.M. Schultz wrote:Okay, let’s make this really simple and see if anyone can figure it out:
Alan Turing could have kept his damn pants up and obeyed the British anti-sodomy laws and stayed out of trouble. How could Einstein have avoided legal trouble under the Nünrnberg Laws? That is: how could have have legally ceased being a Jew?
Repost from the Chat: I wish I could get into his mind more so I can find his weak point and attack it for massive damage (RIIIIIIIDGE RACER!!!); any pointers?Darth Wong wrote:He could have tried to fool people into thinking he was not a Jew, just as you suggest Turing could have tried to fool people into thinking he was not a homosexual. This point has been made many times already, and you are choosing to willfully ignore it. Answer the goddamned point right now, asshole.R.M. Schultz wrote:Okay, let’s make this really simple and see if anyone can figure it out:
Alan Turing could have kept his damn pants up and obeyed the British anti-sodomy laws and stayed out of trouble. How could Einstein have avoided legal trouble under the Nünrnberg Laws? That is: how could have have legally ceased being a Jew?
How about addressing some of the points you're so conveniently ignoring? Like why the fuck should the government have the right to enforce what is or isn't acceptable sexual behavior beyond it involving two mutually consenting adults? Or are you just going to continue ignoring the obvious points like a whiny little bitch?R.M. Schultz wrote:Okay, let’s make this really simple and see if anyone can figure it out:
Alan Turing could have kept his damn pants up and obeyed the British anti-sodomy laws and stayed out of trouble. How could Einstein have avoided legal trouble under the Nünrnberg Laws? That is: how could have have legally ceased being a Jew?
I'm convinced aforementioned fucknuts would quite easily reject Jesus's Second Coming as a trick of the devil, especially if JC started talking his "hippie peacenik communist potsmoking tripe" as they would so see it.The Yosemite Bear wrote:Secondarily, since homosexuality is hardwired into the genes of social animals to keep populations under control for the good of the pack, pod, flock etc, those fucknuts who say it's against god's will really should look at how dolphins, domesticated dogs, wild dogs, wolves, primate groupings and even those monagamous for life penguins really do operate.
Well, if you're going to go after his character (and why not at this point, since he's abandoned any semblance of debate), I would say that it's pretty obvious he sees suppression of one's own homosexuality as a perfectly reasonable option because that's obviously what he does himself. His "guilty gay" self-loathing is about as well-hidden as Bill Clinton's libido.Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:Repost from the Chat: I wish I could get into his mind more so I can find his weak point and attack it for massive damage (RIIIIIIIDGE RACER!!!); any pointers?Darth Wong wrote:He could have tried to fool people into thinking he was not a Jew, just as you suggest Turing could have tried to fool people into thinking he was not a homosexual. This point has been made many times already, and you are choosing to willfully ignore it. Answer the goddamned point right now, asshole.R.M. Schultz wrote:Okay, let’s make this really simple and see if anyone can figure it out:
Alan Turing could have kept his damn pants up and obeyed the British anti-sodomy laws and stayed out of trouble. How could Einstein have avoided legal trouble under the Nünrnberg Laws? That is: how could have have legally ceased being a Jew?
His bullshit is beyond belief.R.M. Schultz wrote:I can also think of several cases of "horizontal recruiting" where a really good lover has been able to "change" the orientation of someone.
Sounds to me some homoerotic pictures is about what the Doctor's precription can be filled best by...Darth Wong wrote:Well, if you're going to go after his character (and why not at this point, since he's abandoned any semblance of debate), I would say that it's pretty obvious he sees suppression of one's own homosexuality as a perfectly reasonable option because that's obviously what he does himself. His "guilty gay" self-loathing is about as well-hidden as Bill Clinton's libido.Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:Repost from the Chat: I wish I could get into his mind more so I can find his weak point and attack it for massive damage (RIIIIIIIDGE RACER!!!); any pointers?Darth Wong wrote: He could have tried to fool people into thinking he was not a Jew, just as you suggest Turing could have tried to fool people into thinking he was not a homosexual. This point has been made many times already, and you are choosing to willfully ignore it. Answer the goddamned point right now, asshole.
WTF does this have to do with the morality of the damned laws, you blind little asswipe?R.M. Schultz wrote:Okay, let’s make this really simple and see if anyone can figure it out:
Alan Turing could have kept his damn pants up and obeyed the British anti-sodomy laws and stayed out of trouble. How could Einstein have avoided legal trouble under the Nünrnberg Laws? That is: how could have have legally ceased being a Jew?
So you concede that by this logic, a woman who gets raped while walking through a slum is less of a victim than one who gets raped while walking through a peaceful, quiet neighborhood?R.M. Schultz wrote:Okay, let’s make this really simple and see if anyone can figure it out:
Alan Turing could have kept his damn pants up and obeyed the British anti-sodomy laws and stayed out of trouble. How could Einstein have avoided legal trouble under the Nünrnberg Laws? That is: how could have have legally ceased being a Jew?
Ability to obey a law has nothing to do with whether it is morally right or wrong. Legalism is not something thats supported here. Further what business is it of ours who consenting adults frack?R.M. Schultz wrote:Okay, let’s make this really simple and see if anyone can figure it out:
Alan Turing could have kept his damn pants up and obeyed the British anti-sodomy laws and stayed out of trouble. How could Einstein have avoided legal trouble under the Nünrnberg Laws? That is: how could have have legally ceased being a Jew?[Large bold text is not for the win jackass~Wanderer]
Anti-sodomy laws are bullshit weasel-laws designed to fly under the defective ethical radars of morons like you. They, for the most part, only slightly inconvenience the lovemaking of heterosexual couples (a certain SDN bigwig here might find it particularly annoying to not be able to have buttsex with his wife -- name withheld to protect the horny!R.M. Schultz wrote:Okay, let’s make this really simple and see if anyone can figure it out:
Alan Turing could have kept his damn pants up and obeyed the British anti-sodomy laws and stayed out of trouble. How could Einstein have avoided legal trouble under the Nünrnberg Laws? That is: how could have have legally ceased being a Jew? <- The incredible shrinking text returns! -Wyrm
), but homosexuals find it much more restrictive. As Alan Turing illustrated, such laws are designed to keep sodomy an underworld activity where practictioners live in fear of being exposed.
" Look, I have offered an hypothesis to explain human sexual behavior and I have offered to defend it against any reasoned argument. The only response I have gotten (aside from infantile name-calling) has been a chorus insisting that “homosexuality is biologically determined.” This answer does not explain how significant numbers of people routinely change their orientation, whereas my theory does. Will someone please offer a theory that is comprehensive enough to include the idea that sexual orientation is fixed while simultaneously accounting for how in many cases it is not?Darth Wong wrote:OK R.M. Shultz, since you have been totally evasive about the subject upon which you were challenged earlier, I have three questions:
10 Do you have any evidence whatsoever to support your bizarre claims about the way sexuality works? If not, then will you concede that your claims are unsubstantiated? And do not say "personal experience".
Supposing you were born Jewish — how could someone tell? Well, there would be your birth certificate which, until fairly recently, listed the parents religious affiliation. There would also be records of temple membership and a corresponding lack of baptismal records. If that didn’t do it, the Nazis were quite willing to go back to the eighteenth century with records or one’s forbearers. Ultimately, you were simply trapped.Darth Wong wrote:2) Do you have any response to the argument that the only way to escape these programs was to deceive the authorities about your true nature, either for Jews or homosexuals?
While I favor religious liberty I also recognize that I live in a democracy where my views are not always going to prevail. The traditional Christian response to persecution is the acceptance of martyrdom — not a lot of sore-headed belly-aching!Darth Wong wrote:3) Would you make the same moral argument about (for example) a law mandating the execution of all Christians, since Christianity is definitely far more of a voluntary choice than homosexuality is?
Ever heard of bisexuality, you unforgivable monster? You scream and holler and complain about our chorus that it's biologically determined while simultaneously patently refusing to even look at our scientific evidence! For that, you deserve judgment and for it to be found wanting. Sexual orientation is not absolutely fixed in the vast majority of gay. bi, or lesbian people. I, for one, drift between 100% attraction for men and 80/20 bisexuality on an essentially random basis, since you consider anecdotes to be the King of All Evidence.R.M. Schultz wrote:Look, I have offered an hypothesis to explain human sexual behavior and I have offered to defend it against any reasoned argument. The only response I have gotten (aside from infantile name-calling) has been a chorus insisting that “homosexuality is biologically determined.” This answer does not explain how significant numbers of people routinely change their orientation, whereas my theory does. Will someone please offer a theory that is comprehensive enough to include the idea that sexual orientation is fixed while simultaneously accounting for how in many cases it is not?Darth Wong wrote:OK R.M. Shultz, since you have been totally evasive about the subject upon which you were challenged earlier, I have three questions:
10 Do you have any evidence whatsoever to support your bizarre claims about the way sexuality works? If not, then will you concede that your claims are unsubstantiated? And do not say "personal experience".
