IE7 released

pieman3141 · Post by **pieman3141** » 2006-10-20 09:47pm

This would affect us hardcore Firefox (or any open-source browser) users... how?

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2006-10-20 10:14pm

"Bigot"? Because he's not very open-minded about web browsers?

Over-dramatize much?

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2006-10-20 10:41pm

Destructionator XIII wrote:Let's see, what is a bigot. According to Webster: " a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudice"

Over-dramatic maybe, but if the word fits.

No, it doesn't, because "bigot" carries connotation that, despite whatever Webster says, go way beyond having a preference for a particular web browser, even an irrational one. Bigots burn crosses, not make snide remarks about Microsoft products.

bilateralrope · Post by **bilateralrope** » 2006-10-20 11:51pm

pieman3141 wrote:This would affect us hardcore Firefox (or any open-source browser) users... how?

Because IE now supports tabbed browsing, we might se a reduction in sites that use things like javascript links which don't allow you to open a link in a new tab.

If the security is improved enough we should see a reduction in the number of computers zombified through IE, meaning less zombie machines to be used for spam or DDOSing.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2006-10-21 12:59am

Destructionator XIII wrote:Let's see, what is a bigot. According to Webster: " a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudice"

Over-dramatic maybe, but if the word fits.

Leaving aside Red's point about the social connotations of the word, I don't think it even fits. "Prejudice" and "intolerance" are terms which imply that you are talking about people, not products. The way you define the term, somebody who likes Coca-Cola and refuses to change his mind is a bigot. You also conveniently quoted only part of the Webster's definition. From the m-w.com website:

Webster wrote:bigot: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance.

The second part of the definition is there in order to clarify the ambiguities in the first part which you are taking advantage of.

Zac Naloen · Post by **Zac Naloen** » 2006-10-21 10:30am

Odd, I installed it and it crashes everytime i open it and it runs extremely slow.

Something odd there

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2006-10-21 10:40am

Zac Naloen wrote:Odd, I installed it and it crashes everytime i open it and it runs extremely slow.

Something odd there

I've been hearing alot about crashs with IE7 released rather then my version.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2006-10-21 11:36am

I've been hearing that too, and that's from those that managed to install it at all, or after their third attempt. Something screwy there, but I'm not exactly eager to find out firsthand. Swiftfox does me fine.

Bounty · Post by **Bounty** » 2006-10-21 11:47am

I can't download from MS's site, regardless of what browser I use. FF tells me it can't connect to some redirect site, Opera does nothing when I click the download button and IE6 throws up a generic error page.

I finally managed to get the setup file from Majorgeeks and it's installing now...I think. There's a bar saying "required updates" are being installed, despite WU saying I'm fully up-to-date. It's been going for a few minutes now.

Yesterday, I installed FF2.0. Even with the extra time I took to find updates for two obscure addons that failed the compatibility test, it still took less time to install and set up. Opera, a few weeks ago, was completely painless. IE on the other hand - so far, not impressed.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2006-10-21 01:00pm

Only a moron downloads M$ release products. You wait a year or two.

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2006-10-21 01:02pm

MKSheppard wrote:Only a moron downloads M$ release products. You wait a year or two.

Or find the Beta 3 version and cruise the net happily.

Xisiqomelir · Post by **Xisiqomelir** » 2006-10-21 01:04pm

So....does it render according to standards yet, or does shitty Frontpage-spewed html still get a clean pass?

Bounty · Post by **Bounty** » 2006-10-21 01:04pm

Ace Pace wrote:
MKSheppard wrote:Only a moron downloads M$ release products. You wait a year or two.
Or find the Beta 3 version and cruise the net happily.

When MS finally releases it's new browser, which they had years to perfect, I expect it to, well, work, sort of. I'm giving it an honest chance but so far it's just been kicking me in the nuts over and over again (why the hell does it hijack my default browser settings? Can't it just ask?) with no obvious advantages over either Opera or FF.

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2006-10-21 01:06pm

Bounty wrote:
Ace Pace wrote:
MKSheppard wrote:Only a moron downloads M$ release products. You wait a year or two.
Or find the Beta 3 version and cruise the net happily.
When MS finally releases it's new browser, which they had years to perfect, I expect it to, well, work, sort of. I'm giving it an honest chance but so far it's just been kicking me in the nuts over and over again (why the hell does it hijack my default browser settings? Can't it just ask?)

As I said, very weird. Beta 3 asked my permission, I told it no, it shut up.

It also dosn't crash, work quickly, work everywhere.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2006-10-21 04:04pm

Destructionator XIII wrote:Let's see, what is a bigot. According to Webster: " a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudice"

Dislike of MS isn't prejudice. MS has a long history of crappy software. Hating MS is not prejudice; its postjudice.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2006-10-21 05:05pm

I've not run into trouble with IE7 final at work (I'm testing it for some of our intranet web applications) so far.