Torchwood Ep. 1x02: Day One [Spoilers]

Zac Naloen · Post by **Zac Naloen** » 2006-10-22 05:35pm

Officially, this show is damned good.

Lets hope they can keep it up.

Lord Woodlouse · Post by **Lord Woodlouse** » 2006-10-22 05:39pm

Well it gets eleven thumbs up from me, anyway. I'll definitely be watching next week.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2006-10-22 05:41pm

Rye wrote:Those were some awesome dying noises.

Yeah, reminded me kind've a Tripod from WOTW in coolness.

Also, I like how Jack has his service Webley .38 revolver while the others seem to have USPs in .45 cal.

The musical score remimds me a bit of Batman Begins at times.

Shortie · Post by **Shortie** » 2006-10-22 05:44pm

Okay, that was fun. Lots of gratuitous enjoyment.

It has to be said that they're pretty crap at protecting peopole from aliens though.

Dorsk 81 · Post by **Dorsk 81** » 2006-10-22 05:54pm

Seems pretty good so far, though I want less Owen and Gwen, and more Toshiko and Captain Jack.

Zac Naloen · Post by **Zac Naloen** » 2006-10-22 06:01pm

Dorsk 81 wrote:Seems pretty good so far, though I want less Owen and Gwen, and more Toshiko and Captain Jack.

I'd like to see more OF gwen. She looks to have a nice figure..

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2006-10-22 06:08pm

I'll say. It's nice to see some strong female leads that are also cute and have a clue about what they're doing. Toshiko was a favourite from the limited time I saw her in DW, but Gwen is up there now.

Dorsk 81 · Post by **Dorsk 81** » 2006-10-22 06:18pm

Zac Naloen wrote:I'd like to see more OF gwen. She looks to have a nice figure..

Didn't really mean it that way, but now that you bring it up, I do mean it that way too. Seeing Owen naked wasn't too nice, and I'd take Toshiko over Gwen any day.

Gwen just kinda irritated me, "Hey, I'm going to do all this regular police type work, which is actually totally pointless, because we're going to find out where she works on the car computer anyway!"

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2006-10-22 06:35pm

I agree with Dorsk; while I can see why they went with a "down to earth cop" archetype for a main character, it'll probably all be gone after a few episodes anyway, and the character she was meant to be will come through. And though her body's alright, her teeth are really distracting.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2006-10-22 06:38pm

I never noticed anything about her teeth. Anyway, her current persona will still perservere somewhat. We know she's having a time getting used to what is just everyday goings on for the rest of the team. While she will change, I can see her still being the odd one out in many respects.

Besides, they need that detective work to help complement the high-tech surveillance side of things. If they can't do basic investigations when their tech fails them, then they're screwed.

Hades · Post by **Hades** » 2006-10-22 06:57pm

Admiral Valdemar wrote:DW is a kids show. This isn't. It's that simple.

Well it's almost that simple.
The forthcoming Sarah Jane investigates is a kids show. I'm fairly certain that they wont even consider what might appeal to older audiences while making it.

Doctor who is a "family show" ie. The content has to be sutable for kids to watch but also mature enough to appeal to the older audiance

Tourchwood is a purly adult show they soley make it for the older audiance in mind and dont worry about it being sutable for kids.

Esentially the've taken the two core audiances for Doctor who and made a spin off for each. not a bad marketing statagy if you ask me.

Dorsk 81 · Post by **Dorsk 81** » 2006-10-22 07:20pm

Admiral Valdemar wrote:Besides, they need that detective work to help complement the high-tech surveillance side of things. If they can't do basic investigations when their tech fails them, then they're screwed.

Well, to be honest she can't do a basic investigation either, not a competent one anyway. She managed to find out when her mum died, that she had swimming badges, and get kiddy photos of her, yet not her current place of employment?

Zac Naloen · Post by **Zac Naloen** » 2006-10-22 07:41pm

Well, to be honest she can't do a basic investigation either, not a competent one anyway. She managed to find out when her mum died, that she had swimming badges, and get kiddy photos of her, yet not her current place of employment?

Born 1987, that makes her 19 and probably a student, who's to say she's employed?

Dorsk 81 · Post by **Dorsk 81** » 2006-10-22 07:51pm

Occupation is one of the most basic things to find out about someone, seeing that she worked at the sperm bank should have set alarm bells ringing "Hmm, alien obsessed with sex.. host works at sperm bank..." so she obviously didn't look it up.

Anyway, student or not, every 19 year old should have atleast a part time job, how the hell else are you going to afford getting pissed up?

Lost Soal · Post by **Lost Soal** » 2006-10-23 02:37am

Dorsk 81 wrote:Occupation is one of the most basic things to find out about someone, seeing that she worked at the sperm bank should have set alarm bells ringing "Hmm, alien obsessed with sex.. host works at sperm bank..." so she obviously didn't look it up.

Anyway, student or not, every 19 year old should have atleast a part time job, how the hell else are you going to afford getting pissed up?

She did look it up. She just couldn't remember what it was when in the car.

Dorsk 81 · Post by **Dorsk 81** » 2006-10-23 07:05am

I know she said something about her being a temp, but either she didn't look any further into it to find out where she was working, which is a crappy investigation, or she did see where she was working and is therefore an idiot because she didn't tell Jack when he spoke to her, or she just can't put two and two together.

Lord Woodlouse · Post by **Lord Woodlouse** » 2006-10-23 11:06am

If she was a temp it's possible she was working for a temp agency, so the sperm back might not necisarily be on record.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2006-10-23 11:09am

That was what I recall happening. The records only recorded the status of temporary worker for an agency, as pretty much most students are. They don't have any obligation to put down where they've currently sent her off given the number of temp positions you can get. I'm pretty sure if it had said "sperm bank worker" on the form, Gwen would've picked up on that.

Dorsk 81 · Post by **Dorsk 81** » 2006-10-23 01:14pm

Lord Woodlouse wrote:If she was a temp it's possible she was working for a temp agency, so the sperm back might not necisarily be on record.

Yet the computer in the car still managed to bring it up, so it had to be on record somewhere.

Admiral Valdemar wrote:I'm pretty sure if it had said "sperm bank worker" on the form, Gwen would've picked up on that.

Well, yea, that was kind of my point, if she didn't find it then she can't have looked too hard if the computer in the car managed to find it, and if she did she can't be the sharpest knife in the draw.

Maybe I'm just looking for faults that aren't really there because she's not really my favourite character. *shrug*

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2006-10-23 01:27pm

It's possible the information was requested and later sent via the Internet. She probably came across the temp position, found the agency number or e-mail and got them to send something back when they found out. It was just misfortune that they found out after she'd already managed to get to her workplace.

Either way, she managed to impress Jack by getting into Torchwood and actually remembering the place, even if it did mean an operative blowing her brains out (which I expected anyway, though Jack getting shot was out-of-the-blue).

Dartzap · Post by **Dartzap** » 2006-10-23 01:42pm

Blimey, it broke the digital viewing record for a non-footy event, pretty impressive, if you ask me.

Dorsk 81 · Post by **Dorsk 81** » 2006-10-23 01:50pm

Hmm, just looking at Day One again and Gwen knew she was a receptionist, but Jack had to ask where and Toshiko pulls up her employment files. So it seems she wasn't very thorough.

Admiral Valdemar wrote:Either way, she managed to impress Jack by getting into Torchwood and actually remembering the place, even if it did mean an operative blowing her brains out (which I expected anyway, though Jack getting shot was out-of-the-blue).

To be fair, that Suzie seemed like a bit of nut job, not to mention a murderer, so I doubt Jack would have been too bothered, especailly after putting a bullet between his eyes.[/i]

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2006-10-23 01:57pm

True, she was certainly unstable, favouring research on alien tech to abiding morals, even if she could've brought people back to life. I can't help but think she's going to turn up again, given the profile in RT this week, they make it sound like she was going to be a background character for a while at least.

Dorsk 81 · Post by **Dorsk 81** » 2006-10-23 02:10pm

Well, on IMDB, she's listed as being in 5 episodes, along with Jack, Gwen, Owen, Toshiko and Ianto, so she must crop up again.

Drooling Iguana · Post by **Drooling Iguana** » 2006-10-23 10:57pm

I just hope that having this earthbound show running will force the Doctor Who writers to actually start setting some episodes on alien planets next season instead of having them just hang around Earth all the time like they've been doing for the past two years.