G80 Die pic

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2006-10-25 12:32pm

That thing is fucking huge.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2006-10-25 02:29pm

Well, the thing has 128 pipelines ...

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2006-10-25 02:31pm

750 million transistors, a 384-bit memory bus...

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2006-10-25 02:42pm

And a partridge in a pear tree.

So how much is it and would it be worth those Queen's heads anyway?

Post by **Beowulf** » 2006-10-25 02:47pm

Hey, only one PCIe power connector. A bit of surprise, that.

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2006-10-25 02:48pm

Admiral Valdemar wrote:And a partridge in a pear tree.

So how much is it and would it be worth those Queen's heads anyway?

$500+ For the GTS(or is it GT?), and it's looking to be screaming fast.

Look for benchs around november 7-8 as NDAs lift.

Darth Quorthon · Post by **Darth Quorthon** » 2006-10-26 02:15am

Beowulf wrote:Hey, only one PCIe power connector. A bit of surprise, that.

Allegedly, that's just the GTS. The GTX will reportedly require two PCI-E power connectors:

Time for that 1 kW PSU...

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2006-10-26 02:40am

For a second I was expecting octacontahedral dice!

Arthur_Tuxedo · Post by **Arthur_Tuxedo** » 2006-10-26 01:55pm

Recommended PSU wattage on the GTX is only 450, the same as a 6800 Ultra. It's more power hungry than a 7-series GTX, but not by any stratospheric amounts. You could probably power it with a 300 or 350 Watt if it's a high quality unit.

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2006-10-26 01:56pm

Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:Recommended PSU wattage on the GTX is only 450, the same as a 6800 Ultra. It's more power hungry than a 7-series GTX, but not by any stratospheric amounts. You could probably power it with a 300 or 350 Watt if it's a high quality unit.

It's still going to be flaming hot.

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2006-10-26 02:19pm

Is this is one of those DX10 cards everyone's been waiting for?

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2006-10-26 02:19pm

Shinova wrote:Is this is one of those DX10 cards everyone's been waiting for?

Yes....

Ypoknons · Post by **Ypoknons** » 2006-10-26 04:56pm

They have seperate PSU for graphics cards as well as real 1000W PSU designs ready for these monsters.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2006-10-26 05:40pm

Imagine the quad-SLI configurations of those things.

Darth Quorthon · Post by **Darth Quorthon** » 2006-10-26 07:34pm

Here's a rumored picture of an 8800GTX from ASUS.

As for Quad SLI, I imagine two of those monsters in SLI will be adequate- NVIDIA is recommending an 800W PSU for that, IIRC. And your PC could double as a Foreman Grill.

Arthur_Tuxedo · Post by **Arthur_Tuxedo** » 2006-10-26 07:56pm

People always predict that new generations of cards will be hugely hotter and more power hungry than the last, and they're always wrong. There are upward trends, to be sure, but they're very gradual. Anyone who buys a 1 kW PSU is an idiot, quite frankly.

As for NVidia's recommended wattage, this is what you have to understand: They're making those recommendations based on shitty PSU's that don't put out half as much power as they claim, and then adding an additional safety factor on top of that. The day a system with SLI'd 8800 GTX's draws 800 watts is the day it snows in Hell. Even 450 or 500 Watts would be good enough, given a quality manufacturer. It's good to be conservative about these things, but don't be so ridiculously conservative that you're spending $200 on a PSU when you only needed to spend $50.

As for Quad SLI, I'd call it unlikely. The 7950 GX2 was made possible by the low power consumption and heat output of the 7-series. There's a reason we haven't seen a similar offering from ATI, and it's the same reason we probably won't see an 8-series GX2 unless the refresh part is a lot cooler running.

Arrow · Post by **Arrow** » 2006-10-27 07:44am

Oh great, we have to have this thread on the two days I'm on travel, and force to surf the net over a shitty VPN/Remote Desktop connection... Damn you, Ace!

As for Quad SLI, we'll probably see it again after the G80's refresh next year. ATI is also rumored to be work on "Trifire" and "Quadfire", which is Crossfire with 3 and 4 graphics cards.

From various leaked benchmarks, the G80 is 70% to up to 300% faster than a 7950 GX2; these scores have stired a ton of debate, too. I'm hoping they're true, becaused I'd like to get away from SLI for running my high res display.

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2006-10-27 07:59am

Arrow wrote:Oh great, we have to have this thread on the two days I'm on travel, and force to surf the net over a shitty VPN/Remote Desktop connection... Damn you, Ace!

I live for GPUs.

And you have time, benchs get revealed Nov 7.

As for Quad SLI, we'll probably see it again after the G80's refresh next year. ATI is also rumored to be work on "Trifire" and "Quadfire", which is Crossfire with 3 and 4 graphics cards.

Possible, ATi has just moved to a new Crossfire system that enables better chip to chip communication, this could easily be modified to include more cards, but the PCBs would have to be predesigned, or we'll be once again back to a Master Crossfire card with 2-3 Crossfire connectors and other stock cards.

From various leaked benchmarks, the G80 is 70% to up to 300% faster than a 7950 GX2; these scores have stired a ton of debate, too. I'm hoping they're true, becaused I'd like to get away from SLI for running my high res display.

I'd like to see a source, the interesting thing in this case with the G80 is that it's 'stream processors', and the breakdown of vertex and pixel pipelines is not clear. However, there should still be some distinction because as far as I know, this is not a unified shader part and none of the G80 line will be unified.

Arrow · Post by **Arrow** » 2006-10-27 08:37am

Ace Pace wrote: I'd like to see a source, the interesting thing in this case with the G80 is that it's 'stream processors', and the breakdown of vertex and pixel pipelines is not clear. However, there should still be some distinction because as far as I know, this is not a unified shader part and none of the G80 line will be unified.

The leaked benchmarks have mostly been coming from Asian forums, and they've been discussed a ton on nvnews and beyond3d. Also, according to DailyTech's article last month, the G80 is unified; however, there has been debate on just what definition of "unified" Nvidia is using.

For someone who lives for GPUs, you should know this!

Like you said, we'll have to wait for November.

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2006-10-27 08:39am

Arrow wrote:
The leaked benchmarks have mostly been coming from Asian forums, and they've been discussed a ton on nvnews and beyond3d. Also, according to DailyTech's article last month, the G80 is unified; however, there has been debate on just what definition of "unified" Nvidia is using.

For someone who lives for GPUs, you should know this! Like you said, we'll have to wait for November.

Bah, I've been out of the loop of the 80 page rumour threads.

EDIT: just saw the numbers.
Jesus fucking mary on a pogo stick, thats the gap like the 6800GT and the 9800XT.

Arthur_Tuxedo · Post by **Arthur_Tuxedo** » 2006-10-27 04:40pm

Trifire and quadfire, huh? Maybe if they put a whole bunch of them together, they'll call it 'Gridfire'.