Kill a Sith lord

[Jaepheth]

I'd go with trip mines and a Concussion Rifle.

[Ender]

Wait. So plasma induces a massive pressure wave are you saying? Aren't most bombs based on the idea of pressure displacement?

All bombs are. You realize that the fireball of a nuclear weapon is the atmosphere plasmafied, right?

[Fingolfin_Noldor]

Wait. So plasma induces a massive pressure wave are you saying? Aren't most bombs based on the idea of pressure displacement?

All bombs are. You realize that the fireball of a nuclear weapon is the atmosphere plasmafied, right?

Yes.. it just occurred to me... Stupid me..

[Darth Wong]

Anyone who had ever seen a plasma torch in operation would know how ridiculous the plasma weapon idea is, particularly as a hand weapon.

Hint: the first thing you do before witnessing a plasma torch in operation is to put on a welding mask, so you won't go blind.

[Fingolfin_Noldor]

Anyone who had ever seen a plasma torch in operation would know how ridiculous the plasma weapon idea is, particularly as a hand weapon.

Hint: the first thing you do before witnessing a plasma torch in operation is to put on a welding mask, so you won't go blind.

I meant to put plasma in the bottle and give it to the guy.... admittedly it is a huge bottle.

[Darth Wong]

Anyone who had ever seen a plasma torch in operation would know how ridiculous the plasma weapon idea is, particularly as a hand weapon.

Hint: the first thing you do before witnessing a plasma torch in operation is to put on a welding mask, so you won't go blind.

I meant to put plasma in the bottle and give it to the guy.... admittedly it is a huge bottle.

You still seem to have no real concept of what plasma is or how it behaves.

[Fingolfin_Noldor]

Anyone who had ever seen a plasma torch in operation would know how ridiculous the plasma weapon idea is, particularly as a hand weapon.

Hint: the first thing you do before witnessing a plasma torch in operation is to put on a welding mask, so you won't go blind.

I meant to put plasma in the bottle and give it to the guy.... admittedly it is a huge bottle.

You still seem to have no real concept of what plasma is or how it behaves.

I am under the impression that plasma can be contained in a tokamak setting. Correct me if I am wrong.

[Darth Servo]

Wait. So plasma induces a massive pressure wave are you saying? Aren't most bombs based on the idea of pressure displacement?

THe idea of course is to create a delivery system deliver the plasma, although I admit it's kinda far fetched without considering other factors.

If you have a delivery system that gets the plasma shockwave to start where the Sith Lord is currently standing, whats the difference between that and just dropping a conventional bomb there?

[Darth Wong]

You still seem to have no real concept of what plasma is or how it behaves.

I am under the impression that plasma can be contained in a tokamak setting. Correct me if I am wrong.

You are wrong in the sense that you think a dangerously explosive quantity of plasma could be contained in such a manner.

The idea of giving someone a plasma charge is pure idiocy of the highest order. It's like saying that you want to set off a bomb, capture the hot expanding gases at the moment of detonation, put this in a container, and then hand it to someone so it will go off in his face.

[freker]

darth Wong wrote:

Hint: the first thing you do before witnessing a plasma torch in operation is to put on a welding mask, so you won't go blind.

isn't (temporarely) blinding the sith an option, perhaps with a plasma torch, but i think there are more practical options.
I know that blinding a sith doesn't really help a lot, since he can still "see" through the force, but it might confuse him, so that you can use other weapons on him.
you have to have some powerfull lightfilters yourself of cource

[LeftWingExtremist]

Well if it was going to be a Jedi I would take HKs advice and kill all his loved ones until he is so fucked up in the head that he can't sense me anymore. Problem is that a Sith Lord most likely doesn't have any friends that he cares enough about to make him sad, and if he did their deaths would probably just fuel his anger.

Since this is the case I would probably tell my employer to shove his contract (I'm not going after a target thats impossible), or if I can't I'd probably try to catch him while he's sleeping probably with a thermal detonator or a tenloss disruptor.

[freker]

there is another way to prevent force users to feel you, according to "Darth Maul: shadowhunter" there is a beats in the lower/lowest levels of coruscant which has sort of the same abilities as an ysalamiri.
is you have a part of the skin of that beast, you are invisible in the force, unlike the "force void"of the ysalamiri.
by using that skin you can sneak op to the sith and shoot him, preferebly with something powerfull enough to make a very sure kill in the first shot, because the sith lord can still manipulate the force around you (again unlike the ysalamiri)

[Lord Revan]

well you're typical Sith lord would someone or Something he cares about, how attacking that instead (though it might take too long), acording to KOTOR2 it worked on Jedi and in the end the sith aren't that different.

[Eleas]

well you're typical Sith lord would someone or Something he cares about, how attacking that instead (though it might take too long), acording to KOTOR2 it worked on Jedi and in the end the sith aren't that different.

The problem is that a Sith would be far less susceptible to such a treatment. The Sith are prone to violent infighting, and they learn to harness their rage. Since the Sith doctrine is all about power, individualism and passion, you can't really expect to cripple a Sith's sense of direction by killing his or her family. That combo of selfishness and vindictiveness will just make you a priority target for a now doubly dangerous (and likely focused to the point of obsession) enemy.

[LeftWingExtremist]

well you're typical Sith lord would someone or Something he cares about, how attacking that instead (though it might take too long), acording to KOTOR2 it worked on Jedi and in the end the sith aren't that different.

Well they may place strategic value in certain things, but I highly doubt the invest any emotion in anything. Also it's a lot more dangerous to use this tactic anyway.

Used against a Jedi he will go and sulk and mope and lose his connection with the force. A Sith may lose judgement when he decides to come after me in a homicidal, but he is still comming after me homicidal rage which is a bit dangerous if my plan fails. Your plan may be usefull (if he has such emotional attachment to anything) but there is a big risk of meeting a sticky end if it fails.

Really the best way is to kill him while he's sleeping with a high powered firearm, or lure him into a space battle and hope that your uber bounty hunting ship can beat his super senses and reflexes.

[Lord Insanity]

Assuming you can beat his precog (such that he doesn't jump out of the way) like the clones did to the Jedi and he doesn't have a supporting army, is there any particular reason you could not simply set your blaster to stun? After all it has those nice unblockable "ring" blasts like the sonic cannon. Rapid fire rings should at least disorient a Force user long enough, if not stun them outright, in order to switch to kill shots. Of course a sonic blaster in one hand and a regular in the other, both rapid fire should accomplish the same thing. Obviously knock 'em over with the sonic/stun blasts first then shoot both (to mantain the disorientation/stun) till he is dead. I think the whole thing boils down to whether you can beat his precog really. If you do that it is quite easy to circumvent his lightsaber blocking with on screen weapons, let alone using a concussion rifle.

[Ghost Rider]

I'm still waiting to hear what resources Darth Wannabe has because honestly, I've yet to hear of a Sith Lord who just all by his lonesome....just waiting for Boba Wank to come and collect.

[hvb]

Actually, a sufficiently powerful Jedi can use a Force Wall to block large numbers of projectiles, at least for a limited time. The Force Wall is mentioned in the AOTC novelization. A Sith Lord wouldn't need to block for a long time if you're standing there shooting at him with a slug-thrower, because your neck is history the instant he knows what you're up to. You might not even get the first shot; if a Jedi can sense the potential danger of a poisonous worm before it bites, I don't see why he can't sense the potential danger of an assassin. The clones were a special case; even those Jedi who sensed them probably dismissed their own suspicions because these clones had been loyal to them for years. Yoda wasn't fooled, however.

So if you have to engage with a LOS weapon on your own (as the OP seems to require: no time to acquire allies = likely no time to set up a prepared battlefield either, be it with boobytraps, bombs or automatic weapons ... no vehicular transport either, so given the timetable, the Sith is probably within walking distance! ) you should go for:

1) a high-velocity, high-rate of fire, automatic slugthrower weapon with lots of ammo.
2) zero grenades/thermal detonators (TK is a bitch, and can also activate them ).
3) body armor to protect you from returning slugs, in case the Sith does succeed at returning some of the incomming.
4) strap-on getaway gear (e.g. like the Fetts', or if in a high-rise a "hangglider-backpack-thingy") & phone a friend when you are in position, but before atttacking, to come screaming in with a real getaway vehicle/spaceship! (chances still are you will need to run).

A Sith Lord can simply crush your throat with TK. He doesn't need to accurately return bullets toward you.

And the biggest problem with elaborate ambushes is that they increase the likelihood of getting caught while you're preparing them. Really, the best option is massive firepower and the hope that you can nail him while he's asleep, by pointing an E-Web at his hotel room in the middle of the night.

Man, I had forgotten how annoying it was to loose a post to the 12:00 Lima update! here we go again.

Well ... the idea behind the gun was to generate task overload in our (un)friendly neighbourhood Sith Lord, so that the TK will be occupied in defense; of course this may fail to work quite as well as advertized ...

but then again, I did kinda say that this was the going-to-hell plan.


As mentioned, what I would prefer to do is to sabotage the Sith Lord's escape plan (while taking precautions in accordance with the GTH plan), and then getting (hopefully enough) other bodies between myself and the Sith to do most of the wet work (and having it done to them), while having at least an improvised escape route mapped, in case.

Of course if I had reliable intel on where the SL's escape route leads, then setting up an ambush at the destination, or en route, (with the pyrotechnics appropriately scaled for the urban/rural scenario at hand to ensure retention of my hunting licence after the deed) would be my preferred option.

The best plan (simple plans are often best) is probably the one advocated by a few others as well: just walk away.
The problem here is that the OP does not so much ask "would you try" as "if you had to, what how...".
I.e. I read the OP as: if you're out of money/pre-contracted/whatever other reason, and must try; what do you do, when on the way home from the grocer's you spot Darth Julienne going into the apartment building across the street with a grosery bag?

[LordShaithis]

there is another way to prevent force users to feel you, according to "Darth Maul: shadowhunter" there is a beats in the lower/lowest levels of coruscant which has sort of the same abilities as an ysalamiri.
is you have a part of the skin of that beast, you are invisible in the force, unlike the "force void"of the ysalamiri.
by using that skin you can sneak op to the sith and shoot him, preferebly with something powerfull enough to make a very sure kill in the first shot, because the sith lord can still manipulate the force around you (again unlike the ysalamiri)

I forgot all about this. Yeah, the hero in that book had one of the little skin-nodules from the beastie on him, which allowed him to sneak up on Darth Maul and successfully stun him. Only the fact that he A) didn't take Maul's saber and stab him with it and B) turned over the secret important holocron to beloved Senator Palpatine, of all people, brought about his downfall.

If I have one of these, I just shoot the Sith with a sniper rifle. If I don't, I consider myself ill-equipped and don't strike at all.

[Darth Wong]

Mind you, venturing into the lower levels of Coruscant for one of these rare beasties is not exactly the safest thing to do, and according to the OP you can't go traipsing off to Coruscant before you execute the mission. I don't know if you could really call that "equipment" because it's so specialized, and it's a living thing. How long after the death of the creature does its skin retain these properties?

[Fingolfin_Noldor]

Maybe the best thing is to attack him with some driods armored with Cortosis ore. Admittedly not cheap but hey.. the ore stops lightsabers.

Do so in the open too... least he uses his extensive telekinetics and bring the whole town down with him.

[evangelion1]

if i recall the effect lasts about an hour or so 2 hours tops so limited time frame to get it from there to where ever this fight is going to take place

[Ar-Adunakhor]

Mind you, venturing into the lower levels of Coruscant for one of these rare beasties is not exactly the safest thing to do, and according to the OP you can't go traipsing off to Coruscant before you execute the mission. I don't know if you could really call that "equipment" because it's so specialized, and it's a living thing. How long after the death of the creature does its skin retain these properties?

There is no real mention of the nodule's workings other than it makes the force "slide around it." The best that the book gives is that it worked well enough to leave Maul completely vulnerable to a short range blaster shot (<20m) several hours after being cut from the creature. It also survived being frozen in carbonite during that period, so that could be a potential way to store it in the event of a time limit.

Of course, for the purposes of this mission you aren't really going to have access to it, and the creature it was cut from was thought to be extinct for centuries or longer.

Edit: Completely vulnerable to a blaster shot to his back, mind you, implying that it works on Force Danger Prescience. We have no way of knowing if it would work on him if he is aware the person is about to shoot him. My guess would be no.

[Major Maxillary]

I'd use half my bodyweight in explosives and the other half in directional mines. set up in a large area conceald in the local rock and plantlinfe, and probably a few small animals. I'd draw him in with some bait and then consume the whole area in cleansing blastwave and ball bearings.

Let's see you walk away from a hundred and twenty-five pounds of Semtex and Apers mines, mister sith lord.

And if that didn't work, I could always just shoot at him from really far away with a really powerful fast firing weapon.

[hvb]

Maybe the best thing is to attack him with some driods armored with Cortosis ore. Admittedly not cheap but hey.. the ore stops lightsabers.

Do so in the open too... least he uses his extensive telekinetics and bring the whole town down with him.

Also not a corner store item ... if you where already out hunting Jedi/Sith, you might have procured them ahead of time, else it's a non-starter for this scenario (and in a generic scenario the droids would still be vulnerable to TK, probably cheaper and just as in-/effective to use several times as many unmodified droids).