This looks to be a painfully, short, dumb question. When Mace and Palpatine were locked in stalemate, Anakin was the one who turned the tide by chopping Windu arm off.
As Palpatine lay grovelling, Windu essentially made the same argument Palpatine made for Dooku. Could it be that Anakin guilt over his murder of Dooku played a significant role in his decision, and thus, his fall to the Dark Side?
Guilt projection and Palpatine/Windu
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Guilt projection and Palpatine/Windu
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Well, they're not exactly in stalemate; Palpatine is entirely at Mace Windu's mercy. I think that while the guilt about Count Dooku may be one of the underlying fears that drives Anakin to feel reluctant sharing his emotions with the Jedi, the real reason Anakin cuts off Mace's arm is because he can't bear to see Palpatine die--because Palpatine, he thinks, has the only key to save Padme from certain death.
I didn't like the way Anakin's transformation was portrayed in the movie. Too abrupt.
I didn't like the way Anakin's transformation was portrayed in the movie. Too abrupt.
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Given all the foreshadowing in previous works (The tuskens in AotC, the dark side killing in Rogue Planet, etc) it was hardly abrupt.
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The novelization goes a bit more in-depth about the guilt Anakin feels for killing Dooku, when by rights the Sith lord ought to have been imprisoned and tried.Pelranius wrote:I don't recall Anakin ever seeming to feel terribly guilty about bumping off Dooku like that. Of course, it's been six months since I last watched the DVD.
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Mace Windu going on about how Palpatine was too dangerous to be left alive just like Palpatine said about Dooku was almost certainly a factor. Can't have been a coincidence. Here's a Jedi Master using the same reasoning as a Sith Lord. What's the difference, thought Anakin ...
And so long as they're so similar, I'm gonna save Padamame or Panda Bear or whatever the hell her name is ...
And so long as they're so similar, I'm gonna save Padamame or Panda Bear or whatever the hell her name is ...
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The way you say it make it sounds too much like a conscious decision though.Vympel wrote:Mace Windu going on about how Palpatine was too dangerous to be left alive just like Palpatine said about Dooku was almost certainly a factor. Can't have been a coincidence. Here's a Jedi Master using the same reasoning as a Sith Lord. What's the difference, thought Anakin ...
And so long as they're so similar, I'm gonna save Padamame or Panda Bear or whatever the hell her name is ...
Still, one has to wonder, why was Anakin so devastated when he began calling Palpy master? Was it a form of rationalisation of what he has done kicking in?
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At that point, I presume he's still torn, and he's mentally kicking himself for it. You know, Oh, shit! I just killed a Jedi Master, and I'm alone in the room with a Sith Lord! I think he's divided between his irrational love for Padme and his repulsion for Palpatine, whom (Anakin now realizes) has deceived him time and time again. He's also got to be thinking about Obi-Wan, who is, for all intents and purposes, his father/older brother figure.PainRack wrote:Still, one has to wonder, why was Anakin so devastated when he began calling Palpy master? Was it a form of rationalisation of what he has done kicking in?
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