It looks like Star Trek 5 died the "death of a thousand cuts".
This was the most amusing part, though.
"Kirk screams, "You want me, you Klingon bastards? Come and get me!" and begins firing the two hand phasers at the vessel."
That would have been really amusing to see.
"The minatures of the shuttle Galileo and the Shuttlecraft were, in actual size, quite big, with the shuttle being 5 feet long and the shuttle bay model was 20 feet wide. To achieve the effect of the shuttle crashing, two giant garage door springs were used, pulled back by a 3-1/2 ton winch -- essentially a giant slingshot. When it was released, the shuttle model traveled at around 300 mph"
Scarily, the movie that was released seems alot better then what they were planning. Despite Shatner's complaints about it, the alien works out far better then having it actually be Satan.
بيرني كان سيفوز
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Nuclear Navy Warwolf
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in omnibus requiem quaesivi, et nusquam inveni nisi in angulo cum libro
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ipsa scientia potestas est
Finally a storyline was decided upon. Actually, the earlier drafts of this final storyline
were a lot better. Bill Shatner did know his Trek. Unfortunately the sub-par special effects
(due to ILM not being available) and the cheesy humor (penned by David Lougherty, at
Paramount's request) hurt the film. Originally it was supposed to have a
MUCH darker tone to it. The studio heads were concerned that the story
would be far too dark and controversial after the lighter tone of Star Trek IV, so
they asked him "could you lighten the story?" The humor parts were far too
out of place with the rest of the film. I wonder how well it would have turned
out if the deal went through with acclaimed novelist Eric Van Lustbader to
write the script (Shatner's first choice) instead of gag writer Lougherty (who
actually penned the script).
In Shatner's first outline for Star Trek V a rogue Vulcan named Zar (later
renamed Sybok) commandeers the Enterprise to seek out God. The
mountain-climbing at Yosemite, the campfire scene, Zar's abduction of
Klingon, Romulan, and human hostages in the failed desert boomtown of
Paradise City ultimately survived into the finished film (you'll have to imagine
these scenes without the silly parts, and with a darker tone, Zar was much
more sinister than the Sybok we wound up with. Originally, he was a very
messianic, possessed kind of figure who was willing to trample anyone who
got in his way). However, from midpoint to finish, the original storyline bears
almost no relation to that of the actual theatrical release.
In Shatner's early versions, Zar (Sybok) is not related to Spock but instead is
only a former acquaintance on Vulcan. After a long and intensive ground battle at Paradise City, the huge
number of soldiers under Zar's command finally overwhelms the Federation troops (for an example of
how much darker this was going to be, Zar would have been riding on a horned equine, which would have skewered a few troops with its horn). Facing defeat, Kirk manages to set a fatal trap but Spock
ruins the ploy by warning off Zar. Spock's explanation for his actions is that he feels Zar is so brilliant that it is
possible he really could be the Messiah, which does not soothe Kirk's anger at his friend. As seen in the final
film, Zar uses images of their past to convert McCoy and Spock to his cause. They become believers and,
unlike the filmed version, Zar then uses the same technique on Kirk.
Zar immediately speaks to Kirk's lack of family, and dredges up Kirk's self-imposed
feelings of responsibility and guilt over the death of his son, David. Promising that a meeting with God will cure
even such deeply embedded pain, Zar implores Kirk to believe in him as well. Kirk joins Spock and Bones
on the surface of God's planet.
An awesome Godlike image appears, surrounded by angels, and demands that the
Enterprise transport him back toward more populated sections of the universe. Kirk then challenges 'God,' and
an argument ensues. As it escalates, 'God' begins showing his true colors and his image begins to transform,
ultimately becoming unmistakably Satanic. The angels simultaneously change into hordes of gargoyles, the
Furies of Hell. At that point, Kirk, Spock, and McCoy, still suffering from the effects of their first real adversarial
relationship, split up, with each man running in a separate direction. McCoy falls, breaking his leg, and is
surround by the Furies, as is Spock. At the same time, however, Kirk has broken free, but even with a clear path
toward escape, a last look back at the fates of his friends convinces Kirk to go back, risking his life in an effort
to save them. Spock is first, and when he's been successfully freed, the pair immediately joins forces in an
attempt to save McCoy, who's already been carried away by the minions into Hell. Descending together into the
river Styx, Spock and Kirk fight off their hideous attackers and save their injured friend, with Kirk carrying
McCoy on his shoulders as they flee.
The trio find that the shuttlecraft has been damaged by the Furies. Scott is forced to beam them aboard the
Enterprise one at a time, due to low power. Once Spock and McCoy are aboard, Scott beams a Fury, who
grabbed Kirk's communicator, onto the ship. Scott grabs a hand phaser and kills the Fury, damaging the only
working transporter in the process. Trapped on the planet, Kirk is pursued once more by the Furies of Hell. After
free climbing a small mountain, Kirk turns around and begins killing as many of the Furies as possible, armed
with a phaser in each hand. Running out of phaser ammunition and horribly outnumbered, Kirk appears to be in
a hopeless situation until the Klingon Bird of Prey decloaks and begins blowing many of the Furies apart, the
rest scurrying away. Kirk screams, "You want me, you Klingon bastards? Come and get me!" and begins firing
the two hand phasers at the vessel. As in the final film, he is beamed aboard to find that Spock is actually the
gunner.
Seems better than the movie
ah.....the path to happiness is revision of dreams and not fulfillment... -SWPIGWANG
Sufficient Googling is indistinguishable from knowledge -somebody
Anything worth the cost of a missile, which can be located on the battlefield, will be shot at with missiles. If the US military is involved, then things, which are not worth the cost if a missile will also be shot at with missiles. -Sea Skimmer
George Bush makes freedom sound like a giant robot that breaks down a lot. -Darth Raptor
ah.....the path to happiness is revision of dreams and not fulfillment... -SWPIGWANG
Sufficient Googling is indistinguishable from knowledge -somebody
Anything worth the cost of a missile, which can be located on the battlefield, will be shot at with missiles. If the US military is involved, then things, which are not worth the cost if a missile will also be shot at with missiles. -Sea Skimmer
George Bush makes freedom sound like a giant robot that breaks down a lot. -Darth Raptor
The great thing about the upcoming Trek V DVD is that Shatner will be able to pull a Kirk in real life: He's going to be allowed to revamp Trek V as a Special Edition!
One thing that would be a GREAT change would be to put the "Great Barrier" back where its supposed to be; at the EDGE of the galaxy, not in the midle. That would shore up a HELL of a lot of inconsistencies.
"Brian, if I parked a supertanker in Central Park, painted it neon orange, and set it on fire, it would be less obvious than your stupidity." --RedImperator
Lord Poe wrote:The great thing about the upcoming Trek V DVD is that Shatner will be able to pull a Kirk in real life: He's going to be allowed to revamp Trek V as a Special Edition!
One thing that would be a GREAT change would be to put the "Great Barrier" back where its supposed to be; at the EDGE of the galaxy, not in the midle. That would shore up a HELL of a lot of inconsistencies.
No, they are two seperate barriers each with unique names. The Galactic Barrier is located around the edge of the galaxy, while the Great Barrier surrounds the center of the galaxy.
No POE, Paramount went thumbs-down on giving him money to fix the movie up for DVD. They aren't going to change anything.
It's a win-win for them; if they don't spend anything to fix it up and it flops as a DVD, they blame the movie's existing rep. If it does sell as much as expected, then they say it was smart to not spend extra because it wouldn't have brought any more money in. It pisses me off, but I can see Paramount's atittude very clearly.
