Tau - Pulse Rifle

Crix Dorius · Post by **Crix Dorius** » 2006-11-02 12:33pm

Well... Nothing to do at work.

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2006-11-02 10:21pm

Shwweeeeeeet.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2006-11-02 11:15pm

The stock and pistol grip location is shoddy. To shoulder the weapon you have to hold your hand immediately in front of your shoulder. Triple the distance from pistol grip and stock.

Isolder74 · Post by **Isolder74** » 2006-11-03 12:16am

The desing works if its a weapon to be used on a mount onto say a vehicle but not as a personal weapon. It needs a stock.

Crix Dorius · Post by **Crix Dorius** » 2006-11-03 05:02am

For a weapon without recoil and aiming over a helmet-display ???

Post by **NecronLord** » 2006-11-03 05:32am

The alien life forms who designed the weapon appear to have joints that facilitate holding the hand to the shoulder easily, given that this version of the stock exists, and their weapons are supposedly very ergonomic.

This version of the rifle.

Oddly enough, as part of my half-done Kel'shan sept Tau kill-team, I made this rifle variant for one of them. If I had a sufficiently high-res camera, I'd put it up.

Sephirius · Post by **Sephirius** » 2006-11-04 01:50pm

also, one does not need to shoulder the weapon as all the sight's data is piped into the helmet's HUD.

Shroom Man 777 · Post by **Shroom Man 777** » 2006-11-05 12:22pm

I think the Tau don't really hold the gun as if it has a stock. Aside from aiming, a stock's purpose is to deal with recoil, and I think the Tau pulse rifles don't really have recoil. And they've got their helmet aiming doohickeys. So they don't need sticks.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2006-11-05 02:34pm

Crix Dorius wrote:For a weapon without recoil and aiming over a helmet-display ???

Recoil is irrelevant. Even with a weapon without recoil you need a means to control the weapon. Just holding it with your hands is going to provide for movement and sway. Holding it with a stock significantly reduces this movement.

Crix Dorius · Post by **Crix Dorius** » 2006-11-14 01:54pm

So... 3D Version in work.

Tasoth · Post by **Tasoth** » 2006-11-14 02:41pm

If you have access to DoW:DC and the RNB(I think that's the type of file) extractors, you can pull their pulse rifle out and use it as a better frame a reference. It's cheating, I know, but meh....

Crix Dorius · Post by **Crix Dorius** » 2006-11-14 02:53pm

I have enough ref-pic`s from Codex Tau and some other artworks.

But interesting idea.

Inquisitor Ryan · Post by **Inquisitor Ryan** » 2006-11-14 06:33pm

Ello again Crix. Nice work on the drawing mate, looks sweet.

Elheru Aran · Post by **Elheru Aran** » 2006-11-14 09:25pm

The front circle-with-bar part is actually spherical, I believe, going by the models and DoW:DC; it seems to function somehow or other in venting waste heat perhaps, as it's got a blue glow in DC.

Just my 2c, you've got a nice project going with this...

Inquisitor Ryan · Post by **Inquisitor Ryan** » 2006-11-14 10:33pm

Actually it's not spherical. Please not that DC is less canon than the actual models where the circle is flush with the weapon.

Elheru Aran · Post by **Elheru Aran** » 2006-11-14 11:11pm

Inquisitor Ryan wrote:Actually it's not spherical. Please not that DC is less canon than the actual models where the circle is flush with the weapon.

Then I've got some really wack models, as the rifle's definitely got hemispheres on both sides of the end where that circle is...

TheMuffinKing · Post by **TheMuffinKing** » 2006-11-14 11:17pm

How do you aim it?

Elheru Aran · Post by **Elheru Aran** » 2006-11-14 11:41pm

TheMuffinKing wrote:How do you aim it?

As has been mentioned earlier, there's an optical sight that also acts like a digital camera piping its view directly to the Tau Firewarrior or Pathfinder's helmet.

The Jazz Intern · Post by **The Jazz Intern** » 2006-11-15 12:06am

Well, the picture shoes a diffeent rifle from the one in the sprues. which is higher cannon?
(here's a sprue one.)

Elheru Aran · Post by **Elheru Aran** » 2006-11-15 12:09am

The Jazz Intern wrote:Well, the picture shoes a diffeent rifle from the one in the sprues. which is higher cannon?
(here's a sprue one.)

Check NecronLord's picture which he linked to earlier-- it's a GW picture with fan text pasted on. Games Workshop's canon policy is basically *everything* that fits or can be shoehorned into the universe, is canon.

The different rifles can be explained by different Earth caste manufactories using slightly different patterns for their factories.

Welcome back incidentally, long time no see...

Inquisitor Ryan · Post by **Inquisitor Ryan** » 2006-11-15 12:34am

Elheru Aran wrote:
Inquisitor Ryan wrote:Actually it's not spherical. Please not that DC is less canon than the actual models where the circle is flush with the weapon.
Then I've got some really wack models, as the rifle's definitely got hemispheres on both sides of the end where that circle is...

Ok, all the pictures i've seen of the models don't show that very well, if i'd modelled the Pulse rifle i'd have done the same thing. (Personally it'd look better if it was flush with the rifle. Seems a little front heavy with the bulges when you think about it.)

The Jazz Intern · Post by **The Jazz Intern** » 2006-11-18 11:10pm

ah, alright.
thank you, incidently.
I also have a question- how do they aim? did we say if it was the eye piece that connects to the helmet?

Winston Blake · Post by **Winston Blake** » 2006-11-19 03:09am

I'm not a 40Ker, but isn't it stupid to rely on a camera relay system so much that you don't include sights or even a stock? Are they really so reliable that it's not a problem? I can accept the centre of mass as being artistic license, but not even a pair of notches in case your camera breaks or the lens gets dirty?

Inquisitor Ryan · Post by **Inquisitor Ryan** » 2006-11-19 04:42am

Hell speak to the tau who don't even have eye-holes in their helmets, they're completely dependant on artificial input.
The Tau are advanced, not bright.

@ Jazz Intern: Your welcome.

Tasoth · Post by **Tasoth** » 2006-11-19 12:23pm

Winston Blake wrote:I'm not a 40Ker, but isn't it stupid to rely on a camera relay system so much that you don't include sights or even a stock? Are they really so reliable that it's not a problem? I can accept the centre of mass as being artistic license, but not even a pair of notches in case your camera breaks or the lens gets dirty?

It wouldn't be Shiney then and if it isn't shiney, who'd want to buy it?