Child Euthenasia proposal in Britain

[SirNitram]

Excuse me, but just where are you getting this "worsening gene pool" horseshit from?

Where do you think the supply of stupid people comes from, the ones you love to mock?

Ah, so you're simply an uninformed retard. Tell me: Do you think the Dark Ages had the same gene pool problems? I doubt it, there was no where near the infant survivability rate. Yet Europe was full of total morons at the time.

Humanity's always been filled to bursting with stupid people.

[Soontir C'boath]

Excuse me, but just where are you getting this "worsening gene pool" horseshit from?

Where do you think the supply of stupid people comes from, the ones you love to mock?

From your mom for instance.

Aside from those mentally retarded. do you truly honestly think that stupidity comes from genetic factors other than the environmental factors that people are subjected to?

[Isana Kadeb]

Yeah, and I'm sure sterilising poor people is also for the benefit of the human race.

Who said anything about sterilising poor people, you deceitful cretin.

It's a direct consequence of your argument, limpdick. Are you honestly too goddamned stupid to realize that?

Nice try with that slippery slope fallacy, you duplicitous pillock.

[Isana Kadeb]

Excuse me, but just where are you getting this "worsening gene pool" horseshit from?

Where do you think the supply of stupid people comes from, the ones you love to mock?

From your mom for instance.

Aside from those mentally retarded. do you truly honestly think that stupidity comes from genetic factors other than the environmental factors that people are subjected to?

Now now, just because your mom has an IQ 2 Standard deviations below the norm doesn't mean everybody else does.

[Soontir C'boath]

Where do you think the supply of stupid people comes from, the ones you love to mock?

From your mom for instance.

Aside from those mentally retarded. do you truly honestly think that stupidity comes from genetic factors other than the environmental factors that people are subjected to?

Now now, just because your mom has an IQ 2 Standard deviations below the norm doesn't mean everybody else does.

Thank you for ignoring my and previous other's points. Yes, thank you so much.

[SirNitram]

Nice try with that slippery slope fallacy, you duplicitous pillock.

Surlethe is entirely accurate here. The 'BUT THEY DRAIN OUR RESOURCES!' logic ties directly to the comparison of sterilizing the poor, for it would serve your logic identically.

Perhaps you'd like to disprove this, were you anything more than a moron.

[Zor]

Excuse me, but just where are you getting this "worsening gene pool" horseshit from?

Where do you think the supply of stupid people comes from, the ones you love to mock?

Conditions that they were raised in is the big one. Underfunded education, stupid legal gaurdians, low standards of living, idiots who cling to archaic beleifs, morons being more able to spread there bullshit around to fill the minds of the gullable with shit than ever before are among the few of the reasons why people are stupid. I wonder which one you fall under?

Zor

[Darth Wong]

Somehow I think the likelihood of these kids ever contributing to the genepool is slim to none, making your point moot.

How do you know? Its fact, unpredented amounts of people with serious genetic disorders are now reproducing thanks to medical science.

Nice try at changing the subject. The kids we're talking about here have such severe developmental problems that they would require constant care for the rest of their lives, thus virtually destroying their families' ability to function. They obviously won't be getting girlfriends and breeding.

The Germans in question were discussing how best to deal with the Jews, Idiot.

Sure, exterminating one the most intellectually endowed groups within the human race sure make solid sense. I suggest you go back to shovelling that manure.

I presume you have actual evidence that the Jews are intellectually superior to other races? I was unaware that the idea of racial intellectal superiority had caught on outside white supremacist groups.

[Isana Kadeb]

Nice try with that slippery slope fallacy, you duplicitous pillock.

Surlethe is entirely accurate here. The 'BUT THEY DRAIN OUR RESOURCES!' logic ties directly to the comparison of sterilizing the poor, for it would serve your logic identically.

Perhaps you'd like to disprove this, were you anything more than a moron.

Instead of pulling your festering feces out of arse and smearing it on your computer screen, why don't you read and respond to the arguments actually presented, arsehat.

[SirNitram]

Instead of pulling your festering feces out of arse and smearing it on your computer screen, why don't you read and respond to the arguments actually presented, arsehat.

That would be a refusal to address the fact it works off the same logic as yours? Splendid, I love it when the trolls concede arguments so clearly.

[Darth Wong]

Nice try with that slippery slope fallacy, you duplicitous pillock.

Surlethe is entirely accurate here. The 'BUT THEY DRAIN OUR RESOURCES!' logic ties directly to the comparison of sterilizing the poor, for it would serve your logic identically.

Perhaps you'd like to disprove this, were you anything more than a moron.

Instead of pulling your festering feces out of arse and smearing it on your computer screen, why don't you read and respond to the arguments actually presented, arsehat.

You know, you're allowed to use flames as part of your argument here, but you're not allowed to use flames INSTEAD of an argument here. Either refute his point or shut the fuck up.

[Spin Echo]

Anyone want to take bets on how long until this thread ends up in HoS?

Somehow I think the likelihood of these kids ever contributing to the genepool is slim to none, making your point moot.

How do you know? Its fact, unpredented amounts of people with serious genetic disorders are now reproducing thanks to medical science.

Considering the cases where infant euthansia is considered, the child involved is never expected to be self aware, kaing it pretty hard to meet members of the opposite sex. They also would be on life support for the rest of their life, also putting a damper on the love life.

And exactly which, pray tell, serious genetic disorders are you refering to?

And people aren't averse to euthanasia?

Its gaining acceptance isn't it, in some of the more enlightened areas of the world. Yet people are still bizzarely paranoid about eating genetically modified food, you think they're going to stand for genetically modified humans?

I may be going out on a stretch here, but I think people get more upset over killing babies than eating genetically modified food. We've been genetically modifying food fo millenia. Genetic selection of embryos is already growing more common place as is acceptance of stem cell research.

Yeah, and I'm sure sterilising poor people is also for the benefit of the human race.

Who said anything about sterilising poor people, you deceitful cretin.

I was pointing out the flaw in your logic that simply because it's "for the benefit of the human race" it must be right.

[Spin Echo]

I may be going out on a stretch here, but I think people get more upset over killing babies than eating genetically modified food. We've been genetically modifying food fo millenia. Genetic selection of embryos is already growing more common place as is acceptance of stem cell research.

Ghetto edit: We've been genetically modifying food for millenia.

[Isana Kadeb]

Nice try at changing the subject. The kids we're talking about here have such severe developmental problems that they would require constant care for the rest of their lives, thus virtually destroying their families' ability to function. They obviously won't be getting girlfriends and breeding.

Hi, Mr. Wong. Could you kindly read the second post in the thread.

I presume you have actual evidence that the Jews are intellectually superior to other races? I was unaware that the idea of racial intellectal superiority had caught on outside white supremacist groups.

Look at the list of Jewish nobel laureates. You don't find anything fishy?

[Surlethe]

Nice try with that slippery slope fallacy, you duplicitous pillock.

You wouldn't know a slippery slope fallacy if you shat it and it smacked you in the ass, you dishonest retard; sterilizing poor people (and disabled people and people with "bad genes") is, in fact, a direct consequence of your argument that if it's bad for the human race overall, it ought not be permitted to reproduce. Are you simply trying to use this thread as an excuse to throw in as many pretentious insults as you can without making any arguments of substance?

[Isana Kadeb]

Instead of pulling your festering feces out of arse and smearing it on your computer screen, why don't you read and respond to the arguments actually presented, arsehat.

That would be a refusal to address the fact it works off the same logic as yours? Splendid, I love it when the trolls concede arguments so clearly.

When did the slippery slope fallacy stop being a fallacy? Whatever you might think, dear, the rules of logic don't bend to your will.

[Surlethe]

When did the slippery slope fallacy stop being a fallacy? Whatever you might think, dear, the rules of logic don't bend to your will.

Why don't you tell us exactly why that was a slippery slope fallacy? That might, oh, help your credibility a little bit. Not that you have any left.

[Darth Wong]

Nice try at changing the subject. The kids we're talking about here have such severe developmental problems that they would require constant care for the rest of their lives, thus virtually destroying their families' ability to function. They obviously won't be getting girlfriends and breeding.

Hi, Mr. Wong. Could you kindly read the second post in the thread.

I've already read it. Are you saying that you support extending this euthanasia policy to include people who could lead productive lives, rather than the permanent-care semi-vegetables described in the opening post? You place no value at all on social utility? What exact system of ethics do you subscribe to? And don't just say "consequentialism" again; that is not a system of ethics because it doesn't explain how you value these consequences.

I presume you have actual evidence that the Jews are intellectually superior to other races? I was unaware that the idea of racial intellectal superiority had caught on outside white supremacist groups.

Look at the list of Jewish nobel laureates. You don't find anything fishy?

So according to your logic, if X% of an intellectually superior group A belongs to group B, then X% of group B must also be intellectually superior? You honestly don't see the flaw in this logic?

[Darth Wong]

Instead of pulling your festering feces out of arse and smearing it on your computer screen, why don't you read and respond to the arguments actually presented, arsehat.

That would be a refusal to address the fact it works off the same logic as yours? Splendid, I love it when the trolls concede arguments so clearly.

When did the slippery slope fallacy stop being a fallacy? Whatever you might think, dear, the rules of logic don't bend to your will.

Why don't you define the slippery slope fallacy for us, since you obviously don't use the standard definition?

[Isana Kadeb]

You wouldn't know a slippery slope fallacy if you shat it and it smacked you in the ass, you dishonest retard;

That must be why your whole argument is a big, giant, flying slippery slope fallacy.

sterilizing poor people (and disabled people and people with "bad genes") is, in fact, a direct consequence of your argument that if it's bad for the human race overall, it ought not be permitted to reproduce. Are you simply trying to use this thread as an excuse to throw in as many pretentious insults as you can without making any arguments of substance?

Who said anything about sterilising poor people, you psychotic dipshit. I realise you're most probably a low- iq delinquent, so I can understand your defensiveness, but stop shovelling your fecal matter in others mouths. And do google up "the slipperly slope fallacy", moron....

[Patrick Degan]

I do believe, Mr. Kadeb, that you've been asked to demonstrate your understanding of the term "slippery slope fallacy". Do stand up before the class, please.

[Darth Wong]

You wouldn't know a slippery slope fallacy if you shat it and it smacked you in the ass, you dishonest retard;

That must be why your whole argument is a big, giant, flying slippery slope fallacy.

sterilizing poor people (and disabled people and people with "bad genes") is, in fact, a direct consequence of your argument that if it's bad for the human race overall, it ought not be permitted to reproduce. Are you simply trying to use this thread as an excuse to throw in as many pretentious insults as you can without making any arguments of substance?

Who said anything about sterilising poor people, you psychotic dipshit. I realise you're most probably a low- iq delinquent, so I can understand your defensiveness, but stop shovelling your fecal matter in others mouths. And do google up "the slipperly slope fallacy", moron....

I grow weary of your habit of answering points by flaming but not directly addressing the points. Start answering some points right now, asshole. Give us your definition of "slippery slope".

[SirNitram]

Instead of pulling your festering feces out of arse and smearing it on your computer screen, why don't you read and respond to the arguments actually presented, arsehat.

That would be a refusal to address the fact it works off the same logic as yours? Splendid, I love it when the trolls concede arguments so clearly.

When did the slippery slope fallacy stop being a fallacy? Whatever you might think, dear, the rules of logic don't bend to your will.

No, they don't. But they don't to bend to your lies either. Sadly, what has been put forth is not a slippery slope fallacy, and anyone with the simplest grounding in logic would know this.

Continue to evade the point though, please. It amuses me, how the idiots twist in the wind, trying to avoid addressing the consequences of their claims..

[Soontir C'boath]

Returning to the article. I personally think that euthanasia should be considered as an option that the family can choose to take. The only problem I have in implementing such an option is what guidelines must the child be under for them to be eligible to do so? Does the child have to be in a vegetative state or can it be less strict than that?

[Darth Servo]

Isana, Lord Wong has given you an ultimatum. That means either meet the challenge, conceed or be banned.