Acts, Chapter 2 wrote:1. And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
2. And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
3. And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them
4. And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
5. And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.
6. Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.
7 And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galileans?
8. And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? ( Verses 9-11 list the nationalities of the men)
12 And they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this?
13. Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.
I've been to churches were they 'speak in tongues' to 'give God's message to the people'. Funny how each church is full of people who've possibly never left the state, whose only experience with foriegn language is high-school French/Spanish. Why would they need to speak in tongues, when not one of them really speaks anything but English?
Just another reason I'm not in a church congregation....
Nitram, slightly high on cough syrup: Do you know you're beautiful?
Me: Nope, that's why I have you around to tell me.
Nitram: You -are- beautiful. Anyone tries to tell you otherwise kill them.
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General Trelane (Retired) wrote:I think Invictus was refering to the story of pentecost in the Book of Acts. The apostles received the Holy Spirit and were then able to 'speak in tongues', which meant, in that story, that foreigners were each able to hear and understand the speech in their own language.
In other words, the story of pentecost portrays speaking in tongues as radically different from how moderm Pentecostals interpret it. Especially considering that NOBODY can understand them.
Quite a few Christian denominations feel it is exactly that - a deception of Satan.
A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory.Leonard Nimoy.
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Guys, its a simple classic case of "The Emperor has no clothes".
"everytime a person is born the Earth weighs just a little more."--DMJ on StarTrek.com
"You see now you are using your thinking and that is not a good thing!" DMJay on StarTrek.com
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dworkin wrote:Didn't Paul, in one of his less insane moments make comments on the value of uttering gibberish?
A couple times
1 Cor 13:1 wrote:Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
1 Cor 14:23 wrote:If therefore the whole church be come together into one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those that are unlearned, or unbelievers, will they not say that ye are mad?
1 Cor 14:27 wrote:If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret.
"everytime a person is born the Earth weighs just a little more."--DMJ on StarTrek.com
"You see now you are using your thinking and that is not a good thing!" DMJay on StarTrek.com
"Watching Sarli argue with Vympel, Stas, Schatten and the others is as bizarre as the idea of the 40-year-old Virgin telling Hugh Hefner that Hef knows nothing about pussy, and that he is the expert."--Elfdart
Speaking of juggling snakes by fundies... A friend of mine has a snake recovered from the fundies. It's name... PK (for preacher killer) unfortunately the incident didn't sway any fundies beliefs as it was said that the preacher didn't have enough faith....
Lisa wrote:Speaking of juggling snakes by fundies... A friend of mine has a snake recovered from the fundies. It's name... PK (for preacher killer) unfortunately the incident didn't sway any fundies beliefs as it was said that the preacher didn't have enough faith....
facts and faith, never the twain shall meet.
None of them tried to argue "it was God's will and he is in a better place now"?
"everytime a person is born the Earth weighs just a little more."--DMJ on StarTrek.com
"You see now you are using your thinking and that is not a good thing!" DMJay on StarTrek.com
"Watching Sarli argue with Vympel, Stas, Schatten and the others is as bizarre as the idea of the 40-year-old Virgin telling Hugh Hefner that Hef knows nothing about pussy, and that he is the expert."--Elfdart
Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:The last line seems actually a guard against "false" speaking in tougues.
Which as far as I can tell fits the holy rollers to a T. They almost never have anyone "interpreting" when I've visited one of their services.
"everytime a person is born the Earth weighs just a little more."--DMJ on StarTrek.com
"You see now you are using your thinking and that is not a good thing!" DMJay on StarTrek.com
"Watching Sarli argue with Vympel, Stas, Schatten and the others is as bizarre as the idea of the 40-year-old Virgin telling Hugh Hefner that Hef knows nothing about pussy, and that he is the expert."--Elfdart
