Midichlorian Counts
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Kind of an assumption on my part. I know game mechanics are lousy things to go by, but I don't think there's anything else I can use for Revan, unless there's a book that's got him in it or something.GeneralTacticus wrote:Ah, right, sorry. I'll wait for Aratech to reply, then.
Over at SB, most of what I've heard from other's place Revan as being more powerful than the Exile (mostly due to Kreia's comments about him), and the Exile was able to singled handedly slaughter a Sith academy and destroy a trio of Sith Lords, one of which could not die by mortal means, and another which devored planetary populations like they were midnight snacks.
Again, maybe I'm making improper assumptions here, but it seems to me like most of the Jedi/Sith seem to be more powerful the further back in time you go. *feeble shrug*
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I believe Darth Bane: Path of Destruction has a bit about him, but I haven't read it yet and have been avoiding spoilers, so I don't know what.Aratech wrote:Kind of an assumption on my part. I know game mechanics are lousy things to go by, but I don't think there's anything else I can use for Revan, unless there's a book that's got him in it or something.GeneralTacticus wrote:Ah, right, sorry. I'll wait for Aratech to reply, then.
In any case, while game mechanics is about all the evidence we currently have concerning Revan, that basically means we have no solid evidence on Revan's power level at all. What little we do have suggests that he was powerful, but there's nothing indicating he was on Anakin's level.
Well, game mechanics would suggest that the Exile is in fact far more powerful than Revan, given that she:Over at SB, most of what I've heard from other's place Revan as being more powerful than the Exile (mostly due to Kreia's comments about him), and the Exile was able to singled handedly slaughter a Sith academy and destroy a trio of Sith Lords, one of which could not die by mortal means, and another which devored planetary populations like they were midnight snacks.
a) Is not bound by a level cap;
b) Is a Jedi right from the beginning of the game;
c) Is likely to spend a significant number of levels on an absurdly overpowered Prestige class.
Besides which, of the Sith Lords slain by the Exile, one of them (Sion) was killed by literally talking him to death, and the other (Nihilus) only died because the Exile's unique nature as a "wound in the Force" caused his attempt to feed on her to backfire.
The only evidence I've ever seen for this is the ability of certain ancient Sith Lords such as Naga Sadow and Exar Kun to induce supernovae, but considering they did this by means of specialised devices rather than their own abilities, it proves nothing, except that they had access to those artefacts and later Sith did not.Again, maybe I'm making improper assumptions here, but it seems to me like most of the Jedi/Sith seem to be more powerful the further back in time you go. *feeble shrug*
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Yeah. There's a sun destroying device on his starship that allows a Force user much weaker than a Sith Lord to blow up stars. One does so later in the series.Aratech wrote:Sadow used a device to do that? (I apologize, I've never really been able to find good info on him, aside from that little blowing up two stars at once deal).
Thanks for mentioning the book, I'll have to check that out and see if anything comes of it.
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The EU is a bit silly in the sense that they portray all the Force users of previous millenia to be far more powerful than movie-era Force users.
Personally, I chalk it up to myths that tend to blow things out of proportion over thousands of years, and make fabled warrios of yore seem far more powerful than they really were.
When it comes to combat, midi-chlorian counts probably mean nothing. They're just an indicator of whether a person is sensitive to listening to the Force, or bending it to their will.
Tagging a numerical value to the effectiveness of combatants, either in real life or in a fictional setting, is just plain stupid. You can measure muscle mass and amount that a person is able to lift, which does affect a fight, but it's only part of the equation.
The supernova-inducing device was probably some implementation of SW technology.. the necessity of a Force user to operate may be because it requires extrasensory and especially precognitive abilities to feed it information that can only be garnered through the Force.
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Personally, I chalk it up to myths that tend to blow things out of proportion over thousands of years, and make fabled warrios of yore seem far more powerful than they really were.
When it comes to combat, midi-chlorian counts probably mean nothing. They're just an indicator of whether a person is sensitive to listening to the Force, or bending it to their will.
Tagging a numerical value to the effectiveness of combatants, either in real life or in a fictional setting, is just plain stupid. You can measure muscle mass and amount that a person is able to lift, which does affect a fight, but it's only part of the equation.
The supernova-inducing device was probably some implementation of SW technology.. the necessity of a Force user to operate may be because it requires extrasensory and especially precognitive abilities to feed it information that can only be garnered through the Force.
Hey Laser Rifle, you make a damn good point that I haven't seen anyone bring up earlier. The midi-chlorian count must refer to density rather than total, because Qui-Gon measures it from a pinprick blood sample! In that case, total body size or loss of body parts wouldn't affect density. Kudos on that call.LaserRifleofDoom wrote:We know they find Anakin to have a shitload by just a finger prick, but how do they 'officially' measuer? That would be nice to know.
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