Um...yeah. If there was something worse I could say to my family besides "I'm an athiest", it would be that. That'd certainly be a free pass to the 9th circle of hell around here. You're an athiest because you're stupid, or unenlightened or haven't opened your heart up enough (or closed your mind up enough, no doubt), but if you're a wiccan, you're actively allying yourself with the devil. At least that's what they'd say. So that must not have been fun.ImpishAngel wrote:I'm not an *atheist*... but I did recently share with my mother and father that I no longer want to be methodist and wish to become wiccan......
Is it hard to come out of the 'atheist closet?'
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Everyone around me knows and no one cares of course. The subject doesn´t really come up often.
I never start arguing about it because it tends to be pointless. If it´s brought up it´s usually brought up by some religous person. I will then argue of course and tell them what i think of his/her belief. The religious person then gets mad and complains about me bringing up this subject. Fuckers.
I never start arguing about it because it tends to be pointless. If it´s brought up it´s usually brought up by some religous person. I will then argue of course and tell them what i think of his/her belief. The religious person then gets mad and complains about me bringing up this subject. Fuckers.
Even though I'm in an atheist club, I don't go around dropping the word atheism everywhere. I guess it's easier to say "I don't believe in God" if I have to. But I'm rarely asked.
I started reading about religion and disbelief a few years after my sister converted to fundieism. I can't come out to her because she'd never let me see her kids again. She & I were so close when we were kids, and now there's this distance between us, which pains me. Maybe when her kids grow up and move out...
I started reading about religion and disbelief a few years after my sister converted to fundieism. I can't come out to her because she'd never let me see her kids again. She & I were so close when we were kids, and now there's this distance between us, which pains me. Maybe when her kids grow up and move out...
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-said the swashbuckling Anne Bonney to her pirate lover "Calico" Jack Rackham, as he was awaiting the gallows in a Nassau jail. Only Bonney and one other crew member were left on deck fighting during a sea battle with authorities in which Rackham surrendered.
-said the swashbuckling Anne Bonney to her pirate lover "Calico" Jack Rackham, as he was awaiting the gallows in a Nassau jail. Only Bonney and one other crew member were left on deck fighting during a sea battle with authorities in which Rackham surrendered.
Maybe it's just the part of the country I live in and my family, but it's never come up as an issue. Religion has never been much of an issue - 12 years of Catholic school was about the quality of the education, rather than the religion.
Am I atheist? I don't know that I care enough about the issue to define it one way or the other. I see no reason to believe in a god, and see no reason not to. I suppose that makes me agnostic, but again, I don't really care.
I probably confuse people, however, because I get equally rude with militant atheists as I do with militant churchies. As long as you're not preachy one way or the other, I don't care, but take your religion or your atheism somewhere else. I'm not interested in buying, and I have no tolerance for either religious or atheist assholes.
Am I atheist? I don't know that I care enough about the issue to define it one way or the other. I see no reason to believe in a god, and see no reason not to. I suppose that makes me agnostic, but again, I don't really care.
I probably confuse people, however, because I get equally rude with militant atheists as I do with militant churchies. As long as you're not preachy one way or the other, I don't care, but take your religion or your atheism somewhere else. I'm not interested in buying, and I have no tolerance for either religious or atheist assholes.
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My family knows pretty well, since I railed with all the force I could muster against being dragged to church as a child. Even then the indignity of being taken to those rituals was evident to me, and I think it took my parents a really long time to realize just how insulted and hurt I was by it, although I wouldn't be suprised if some denial was involved.
My mother is a very demure and uninquisitive woman, and while she isn't (usually) unimpressed by rational thought, it takes her some time and effort to understand any nonreligious or scientific explanation for phenomena. Combine that with a lifetime of small-town living being raised by a tight-lipped Belgian mother and you have a pretty firm, if thankfully frothless Christian. My father is slightly more ambitious in making inroads into understanding the world around him, but his practices are compromised by a certain rural way of thinking and adherence to "common sense" that renders him unable to fully grasp certain secular concepts. Add to this his feelings of indenture to Alcoholics Anyonymous and their frustrating model of spirituality that they imbue all their converts with, and he's become equally immoveable, if more in the "personal god" camp. My brother and sister aren't very opinionated, but my brother appears to be atheist as far as I can tell.
I recently ended a long and critical friendship over irreconcileable differences that included my atheism versus my friend's jiggery-pokery drug-addled beleif in a personal god. He was an enabler long before then, so it wasn't a hard call to make when he insisted my friends and brother try a drug that has psychologically damaged me deeply in the past, also taken at his behest with inadequate caution given as to the effect of the drug. I don't miss that fucker or his mumbo-jumbo acid-dropping horseshit one bit. All things being told, I guess that if I have faced hardships over my atheism, it's been for the best. At the very most, I button my mouth when I sense a religious conversation impending with my grandmother just because I love the old gal and I know that my vitriol will only hurt her, but otherwise I have no patience for anything seeking to impose on my atheism.
My mother is a very demure and uninquisitive woman, and while she isn't (usually) unimpressed by rational thought, it takes her some time and effort to understand any nonreligious or scientific explanation for phenomena. Combine that with a lifetime of small-town living being raised by a tight-lipped Belgian mother and you have a pretty firm, if thankfully frothless Christian. My father is slightly more ambitious in making inroads into understanding the world around him, but his practices are compromised by a certain rural way of thinking and adherence to "common sense" that renders him unable to fully grasp certain secular concepts. Add to this his feelings of indenture to Alcoholics Anyonymous and their frustrating model of spirituality that they imbue all their converts with, and he's become equally immoveable, if more in the "personal god" camp. My brother and sister aren't very opinionated, but my brother appears to be atheist as far as I can tell.
I recently ended a long and critical friendship over irreconcileable differences that included my atheism versus my friend's jiggery-pokery drug-addled beleif in a personal god. He was an enabler long before then, so it wasn't a hard call to make when he insisted my friends and brother try a drug that has psychologically damaged me deeply in the past, also taken at his behest with inadequate caution given as to the effect of the drug. I don't miss that fucker or his mumbo-jumbo acid-dropping horseshit one bit. All things being told, I guess that if I have faced hardships over my atheism, it's been for the best. At the very most, I button my mouth when I sense a religious conversation impending with my grandmother just because I love the old gal and I know that my vitriol will only hurt her, but otherwise I have no patience for anything seeking to impose on my atheism.