.60 caliber Nitro!
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Naturally; as the second post commented, people with tiny trouser snakes will buy it. Other than that, it looks darned impressive.Stark wrote:Seriously. Is it another useless super-round? Does it have a role, or a market?
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Presumably, the same people who buy cars and ships for the same reason. Just as a f'rinstance, the new Bugatti Veyron costs 1.3 megabucks, IIRC, and it gets a top speed of 234 mph. Your standard Kidmobile costs low 5 figures and tops out around 100mph. Driving to work, running errands, traveling on a freeway with a 60-70mph speed limit, what advantage can you derive from that higher top speed? For most daily tasks, cooler-looking does not mean better. In that, I agree with you. However, there is one area where cooler does mean better; when you are cruising for chicks, you will get better results in a cooler vehicle. In short, what I am saying is that whoever buys this gun will do so with the express intention of impressing gun-ignorant women with what manly men they are.Stark wrote:No, it looks stupid. And who the fuck buys guns based on what they look like? So if it's impractical, oversized, and provides no needed capabilities...
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Yes, and an awesome car actually provides real, tangible benefits AND is targetted at a tiny market of staggeringly rich people. Your example is irrelevant, for this gun is not aimed at the richest people in the world and it won't get me truckloads of smoking hot women.
PS, that gun is not 'cooler looking', it looks STUPID.
PS, that gun is not 'cooler looking', it looks STUPID.
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Hmm, you're probably right about the car being irrelevant. As for the women, a man can dream, can't he? :pStark wrote:Yes, and an awesome car actually provides real, tangible benefits AND is targetted at a tiny market of staggeringly rich people. Your example is irrelevant, for this gun is not aimed at the richest people in the world and it won't get me truckloads of smoking hot women.
At the other end of the gun, a .60 inch hole in the barrel would look more like something to hide in than something to shoot with. Regardless of the rest of it, that would be intimidating. Useless in practice, but intimidating.PS, that gun is not 'cooler looking', it looks STUPID.
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I remember hearing something, about why the Army went from .38 to .45 after the Spanish-American war: You shoot a man with a .38, and he'll be a mite put out. You shoot him with a .45, and he'll be on his back.Stark wrote:Yeah, and even 9mm can kill someone. Sometimes.
Dunno, but it's safe to say it's around $1-2000 for a big-bore like that, so between 1300 and 650 .60 cal handguns could be bought for one nice car.Actually, I wonder how much they cost? How many could you buy for the price of a nice sportscar?
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Presumably if you're out hunting small game and run across a bear, this would be your pistol of choice. Its a gun that exists simply because it can, not because of any actual utility.
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.600 Nitro Express was a cartridge designed by British gunmaker Holland & Holland over a century ago to kill elephants. It was originally intended to be used in shoulder arms, not handguns.Stark wrote:Seriously. Is it another useless super-round? Does it have a role, or a market?
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If I run across a bear a gun that I get one shot off with will not be my choice of weapon. Either a semi-automatic rifle or shotgun that I can actually shoot multiple times before dying would be a far better idea.CaptainChewbacca wrote:Presumably if you're out hunting small game and run across a bear, this would be your pistol of choice. Its a gun that exists simply because it can, not because of any actual utility.
For example, a 12 gauge loaded alternately with buckshot and slugs.
Edit: Why did they even bother putting a cylinder on the damn thing?
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remember TR used to hunt elephants and rhinos with a nitro express RIFLE. which tended to be highly innaccurate as conservation of momentum even when braced by a massive President was still too much. of course he did kill them with one shot the few times he suceeded in hitting one....
note TR did manage to kill 11,000 animals with such overbored hunting long arms, to make one pistol sized.....
note TR did manage to kill 11,000 animals with such overbored hunting long arms, to make one pistol sized.....
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a) I'm pretty sure this is a repost.
b) Note that there's a big difference between the nonsense pistol in the video, and the Zeliska revolver - the latter makes the recoil more or less manageable by virtue of its enormous weight.
c) You don't need something to compensate for to buy something like that - just a lot of cash and a slightly warped sense of "fun".
Well, maybe more than slightly warped, but anyway.
d) For the record, Zeliska himself stopped at .458 Win. Mag..
b) Note that there's a big difference between the nonsense pistol in the video, and the Zeliska revolver - the latter makes the recoil more or less manageable by virtue of its enormous weight.
c) You don't need something to compensate for to buy something like that - just a lot of cash and a slightly warped sense of "fun".
Well, maybe more than slightly warped, but anyway.
d) For the record, Zeliska himself stopped at .458 Win. Mag..
At an overall lenght of 60cm, if you ask our lawmakers.LeftWingExtremist wrote:Where does one draw the line between pistol and rifle anyway, that thing is big enough to be a small rifle.
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A/B) The revolver in the response picture has turned up before. And yes it would be more managable. For that matter, unless I'm mistaken, the revolver in the picture is shooting .45-70 Government, which while it has brisk recoil, it'd be nowhere near as bad as the recoil of shooting something like .500 S&W or .475 Linebaugh.AMX wrote:a) I'm pretty sure this is a repost.
b) Note that there's a big difference between the nonsense pistol in the video, and the Zeliska revolver - the latter makes the recoil more or less manageable by virtue of its enormous weight.
c) You don't need something to compensate for to buy something like that - just a lot of cash and a slightly warped sense of "fun".
Well, maybe more than slightly warped, but anyway.
d) For the record, Zeliska himself stopped at .458 Win. Mag..
At an overall lenght of 60cm, if you ask our lawmakers.LeftWingExtremist wrote:Where does one draw the line between pistol and rifle anyway, that thing is big enough to be a small rifle.
C) An overwhelming desire to shoot Cape buffalo or Kodiak grizzly with a handgun helps too. Really big-bore handguns are fun to shoot . . . the first time around.
And, in the United States, at least, a barrel length of sixteen inches (~40 cm) distinguishes a rifle from a pistol. You can't, for example, stick a stock on a weapon with a barrel length of fourteen inches without producing a weapon that violates the National Firearms Act (making it illegal for a civilian to own without a lot of paperwork.) Which is why pistol-caliber carbines and short-barrelled civilian rifles in the United States always have a barrel length of at least 16.5 inches.
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You are mistanken.GrandMasterTerwynn wrote:For that matter, unless I'm mistaken, the revolver in the picture is shooting .45-70 Government...
The revolver does, in fact, shoot .600 Nitro Express.
In fact, if you look closely, you can actually read it on the gun itself: The writing under the zylinder says "MOD.ZELISKA CAL .600 NE"