Lusankya wrote:But aren't all American notes the same size? I imagine that you just have some kind of scanner in there that reads the markings on it, but I'll be damned if it doesn't sound like a stupid concept.
US dollars are magnetically encoded.
I'm certain that's all fine and dandy for machines, but unless blind people in the US have some kind of magic magnetic sensors in their fingertips, I'm not quite sure how they're not completely screwed over by that.
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SCRawl wrote:Loonies are not only larger (by about 1/8" in diameter, plus they're a little thicker), but they have eleven sides instead of the circular quarter. Add in the difference in colour, and it's pretty difficult to mistake one for the other.
The Loonie is 26.5mm in diameter and 1.75mm in thickness.
The US Dollar coin is 26.5mm in diameter and 2mm in thickness.
The US dollar coin is larger in size and the newest version is a different color. So the size issue is non existent. If the Loonie can be used without conflict, so can a US dollar coin.
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SCRawl wrote:Loonies are not only larger (by about 1/8" in diameter, plus they're a little thicker), but they have eleven sides instead of the circular quarter. Add in the difference in colour, and it's pretty difficult to mistake one for the other.
The Loonie is 26.5mm in diameter and 1.75mm in thickness.
The US Dollar coin is 26.5mm in diameter and 2mm in thickness.
The US dollar coin is larger in size and the newest version is a different color. So the size issue is non existent. If the Loonie can be used without conflict, so can a US dollar coin.
This is good news. The article stated that the new dollar coin would be the same size as the Susan B. Anthony dollar, which was too often confused for a quarter and led to its downfall. I don't remember having handled one of those, so I took it as given that the popular gripes were valid. I obviously posted without full possession of the facts.
In other words, I retract my objections.
73% of all statistics are made up, including this one.
The biggest problem is that the US mint never prints enough and doesn't phase out the dollar bill.
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How retarded do you have to be to make coins that can be mistaken for other coins? When you've got material, mass, size and edge format, you've got to go out of your way to make coins similar.
Wait...are your dollars silver? I've done some quick research and the early 2000s ones were silver, and quarter-size, with smooth edges like quarters.
The US Mint fails. What a pack of retards. The NZ Mint is better than you guys, how embarrassing is THAT?
Stark wrote:How retarded do you have to be to make coins that can be mistaken for other coins? When you've got material, mass, size and edge format, you've got to go out of your way to make coins similar.
Wait...are your dollars silver? I've done some quick research and the early 2000s ones were silver, and quarter-size, with smooth edges like quarters.
The US Mint fails. What a pack of retards. The NZ Mint is better than you guys, how embarrassing is THAT?
The Sacajawea coin was gold colored and had a smooth edge. The Susan B Anthony (exact same size) was silver and had a stripped edge. The Quarter is silver and has a stripped edge.
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What do you mean 'stripped'? Like, you mean reeded? Two similar sized silver reeded coins are going to cause problems and it's stupid to do that. I've seen pictures of angled-edge dollars, they would have been far more distinctive.
Stark wrote:What do you mean 'stripped'? Like, you mean reeded? Two similar sized silver reeded coins are going to cause problems and it's stupid to do that. I've seen pictures of angled-edge dollars, they would have been far more distinctive.
Stripped, they have a rough edge as a result of ridge on them. Stripped, the opposite of smooth.
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Lusankya wrote:But aren't all American notes the same size? I imagine that you just have some kind of scanner in there that reads the markings on it, but I'll be damned if it doesn't sound like a stupid concept.
It's so our wallets aren't gigantic.
And how Americans can complain that $1 coins are too bulky when you still use 1 cent coins is beyond me.
No one carries around pockets full of pennies. Usually, people will carry a few around to make exact change if needed. People can, however, carry around a lot of singles. Having singles that fit nicely into your wallet without jingling around in your pockets is much nicer. I'd rather not be a pick-pocket magnet.
Not just that, but how the hell else are you gonna tip strippers without singles?
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Sorry, I'm using technical terms like 'reeded' to refer to the bumps on the edges. Are you arguing that these designs were not-stupid or what? It's like they went out of their way for many of them to be as confusing as possible.
phongn wrote:I believe the word you're looking for is "ridged."
I thought he was using 'stripped' as some technical term I wasn't familiar with, like the surface was 'stripped' or aged somehow or something. He just means the bumps or 'reeds' on the edge though.
Out of interest, do US coins use reeds 'properly' (ie, different patterns like '20 reeds then big gap then 20 reeds etc) or just as x number of reeds around the edge?
Stark wrote:Out of interest, do US coins use reeds 'properly' (ie, different patterns like '20 reeds then big gap then 20 reeds etc) or just as x number of reeds around the edge?
Uniform reeds. Quarters and dimes are reeded. Dollars, nickels and pennies are not reeded.
AU older coins (5,10,20,50c) are uniform, while the newer $1 and $2 are patterned. Of course, AU introduced the dollar coins in steps, so they made the $1 too big and the $2 had to be smaller.
Aside from brief runs (like some of the dollar versions I've seen) the US only uses circular coins?
It's interesting to speculate what coins would look like if they were all designed now, at the same time - I doubt AU would have a 5c at all, the dollars would be sensible sizes, we'd probably have quarters instead of 50c, and more variation in materials, shape and weight would be used. Our older coins are very much like US coins: basically the same apart from slightly different sizes and a different picture on it.
Getting back to the topic I don't see this as a great cause for secular celebration. This move was done for matters of practicality, not constitutionality.
And I might add, when this coin dies in circulation just like every other dollar coin going back the last few decades I will be you money Patty boy will be on CBN declaring from God on high that the minimizaton of 'In God We Trust' was the reason behind it.
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I must say I do like the americans aversions to coins. Bills might have their issues but I sure do prefer to handle them over our coin heavy system. Would love to have €1 bills but alas people here love coins
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General Zod wrote:The $1.00 bill is also the only bill that hasn't gotten any kind of face lift in the last ten years afaik. Everything else has at least gotten some kind of cosmetic overhaul, and the magnetic strips aren't -too- old.
Sounds good, keep it traditional and change as little as possible. I never liked it when they came with new money designs when we had the markka in Finland, I want sameness and consistency through the ages.
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His Divine Shadow wrote:Sounds good, keep it traditional and change as little as possible. I never liked it when they came with new money designs when we had the markka in Finland, I want sameness and consistency through the ages.
If the only reason you can give for something is that it's traditional, you have no reason at all.
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He just means the bumps or 'reeds' on the edge though.
Are you arguing that these designs were not-stupid or what? It's like they went out of their way for many of them to be as confusing as possible.
