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[Durandal]

Not just that, but how the hell else are you gonna tip strippers without singles?

Indeed. Strippers aren't train conductors; they don't have coin sorters on their belts.

[Stark]

You people who tip strippers with such trivial amounts of money sicken me. I'm glad you're not in this country, or some of my friends would have slightly smaller piles of money.

It's even worse in the US where tipping is some big deal.

[His Divine Shadow]

That's because you suck. Honestly, who cares what money looks like?

I don't care that much but I do care enough to post about it on this forum apparently.

Sounds good, keep it traditional and change as little as possible. I never liked it when they came with new money designs when we had the markka in Finland, I want sameness and consistency through the ages.

If the only reason you can give for something is that it's traditional, you have no reason at all.

I know it's purely subjective, it's just because I think US money looks good as it is and I want it to remain looking the same (sure bring in coins too but don't kill the bills please). Purely nostalgic and emotive reasoning.

[Durandal]

You people who tip strippers with such trivial amounts of money sicken me. I'm glad you're not in this country, or some of my friends would have slightly smaller piles of money.

It's even worse in the US where tipping is some big deal.

I never realized just how much tipping is ingrained into the culture here until I went to England. I was at a pub with my friends, and I accidentally knocked a glass off the bar, and it shattered on the floor. The first thing I did was give the bartender a 5 pound note for the mess. My friend then told me that was a "huge" gesture and that I wouldn't have a problem getting served after that .

[Stark]

Is that a zero-content post?

I'm actually curious: is tipping a stripper a single dollar common in the US? With little minimum wage protection, is this an important part of their earning potential?

[Durandal]

Is that a zero-content post?

I'm actually curious: is tipping a stripper a single dollar common in the US? With little minimum wage protection, is this an important part of their earning potential?

You give them multiple singles in rapid succession.

[Stark]

Yeah, as a non-US person I've got no automatic-tipping reflex: I only tip for a a reason, so I don't tip 10% or whatever, I just throw down a $20.

It's wierd though: many of my friends work at strip joints, and when they're working the floor they get tipped $10 and $20 at reasonable intervals, rather than smaller amounts constantly. But then with regulations etc AU stripjoints are very different to US ones, so maybe they need different earning methods.

From a no-tip social perspective, 'tipping' someone with less than the value of a bottle of water would strike me as insulting. What's the point even pulling your wallet out for such a trivial amount of cash?

Actually, now that you mention it, I think some clubs here have some sort of bar tip system going on.

[Vympel]

When I went to a strip club on Pitt Street (Men's Gallery, Sydney siders) for a buck's night several months ago, they had a token system in place- you give money to the girls milling around the tables, they give you tokens equivalent to the amount of money you paid.

[Stark]

Durandals example is fascinating. I work at a bar sometimes, and glasses are worth nothing. I throw away half a dozen broken, chipped or suspect glasses every night. When someone breaks one, we don't care beyond messing their table or bothering other people. If it was a problem, I'd just give whoever lost a beer a new one for free.

Wierd.

[Flagg]

You people who tip strippers with such trivial amounts of money sicken me. I'm glad you're not in this country, or some of my friends would have slightly smaller piles of money.

It's even worse in the US where tipping is some big deal.

I never realized just how much tipping is ingrained into the culture here until I went to England. I was at a pub with my friends, and I accidentally knocked a glass off the bar, and it shattered on the floor. The first thing I did was give the bartender a 5 pound note for the mess. My friend then told me that was a "huge" gesture and that I wouldn't have a problem getting served after that .

I despise the way that tipping is pretty much a requirement in this country. I don't have a problem with tipping for good or even adequate service, but you are still amost obligated to leave something, even for a shitty waiter. What I really can't stand is how the tips are all evenly divided up at the end of the night, which just defeats the whole purpose. If the restraunt industry were required to pay the actual minimum wage or better yet, a living wage, then tipping would make alot more sense to me.

[Flagg]

Is that a zero-content post?

I'm actually curious: is tipping a stripper a single dollar common in the US? With little minimum wage protection, is this an important part of their earning potential?

You give them multiple singles in rapid succession.

Yeah, depending on the club and the length of time a girl is dancing, I'll usually tip her between $3-$5 in singles each time she's on stage.
I uppose if we switched to $1 coins instead of bills they could have a collection plate or something. But that really takes away the fun of slipping a single into her thong.

[Durandal]

Durandals example is fascinating. I work at a bar sometimes, and glasses are worth nothing. I throw away half a dozen broken, chipped or suspect glasses every night. When someone breaks one, we don't care beyond messing their table or bothering other people. If it was a problem, I'd just give whoever lost a beer a new one for free.

It's to compensate for the trouble. Because when you clean up a broken glass, you have to clear out a whole area, sweep shit up, etc ...

It's a symptom of America's "personal responsibility" culture to do things like that. Believe it or not, even though the country's full of assholes, Americans have a profound sense of obligation. It's our way of saying, "Yes, I screwed up. Now I'm going to make it right," even though it's not really necessary.

[Stark]

Yeah, that's what I mean. It's not just traditional tipping, it's the idea that you should cover people's inconvienience. That sort of thing used to be common everywhere in the 'good old days' I guess, but people are quite happy to let others deal with it here. I actually feel bad when someone offers to compensate me for doing my job.

But I'm cute so I get tips all the time. 30ish single mother = bad.

[Lagmonster]

It's wierd though: many of my friends work at strip joints, and when they're working the floor they get tipped $10 and $20 at reasonable intervals, rather than smaller amounts constantly.

Jenna Jameson once told a story of how her and a friend were putting on a strip show in Canada, and they were fairly drunk on stage, and they kept angrily throwing back the 'change' that the Canucks were tossing their way, thinking they were getting shit money when they were in fact getting a steady stream of two-dollar coins.

I haven't been to a strip club in ages, but a reliable source tells me that at one of the prime local tit shacks, the girls are actually happy with the dollar and two dollar coins because it virtually guarantees higher tips, coins being hard to stuff in thong waistbands I suppose.

[Darth Wong]

The worst form of the automatic-tipping culture is when they actually put the fucking tip on your restaurant bill. I've seen that done way too many times.

[Illuminatus Primus]

Is that a zero-content post?

I'm actually curious: is tipping a stripper a single dollar common in the US? With little minimum wage protection, is this an important part of their earning potential?

The typical procedure is there is a platform or stage; the stripper moves around dancing directly in front of and probably fondling her tits and ass in front of you and looks at you in some sexy way, then you're supposed to stick your $1 in her tits or thong. She'll usually collect from every man at the table within 10 minutes. You'll be bled of 20 $1's very quickly.

But they make their real money with lapdances. Trust me, most strippers, especially hot ones at places which don't look like run-down shitholes, if anything, have too much money. A gorgeous stripper at a good club could easily earn over a thousand dollars in one night. In cash. A lot of them have coke problems.

[phongn]

I despise the way that tipping is pretty much a requirement in this country. I don't have a problem with tipping for good or even adequate service, but you are still amost obligated to leave something, even for a shitty waiter.

Well, traditionally you give something like two cents for really bad service as a signal that they really messed up.

What I really can't stand is how the tips are all evenly divided up at the end of the night, which just defeats the whole purpose. If the restraunt industry were required to pay the actual minimum wage or better yet, a living wage, then tipping would make alot more sense to me.

It depends on what restaurant, though - not all divide them up equally.

[CaptainChewbacca]

The worst form of the automatic-tipping culture is when they actually put the fucking tip on your restaurant bill. I've seen that done way too many times.

Over in my part of the country, they only do that when you have more than 10 or 14 people, and they usually say that on a sign somewhere before you order.

[Alan Bolte]

The worst form of the automatic-tipping culture is when they actually put the fucking tip on your restaurant bill. I've seen that done way too many times.

I can understand it for parties of 5 or more, the servers only really make money from tips, and while it may seem an automatic tipping culture around here, plenty of people just don't tip, regardless of quality of service. If you bust your ass to deal with a table of 6 for an hour and a half, then don't get paid a dime, that seems a bit unreasonable. Those of us who have any sense of decency might feel pained to not tip someone earning 2-3$/hr, regardless of service, but more people then you might guess just don't give a shit. Besides, if problem was with the food, it's more likely to be the cook's fault.

On the other hand, one guy I know is generous to a fault: he tips 20% for bad service. I've seen him tip 50% or more. It's not like he's ever had any money, either.

Back on topic, if we were to switch to a system with different coins, what would you do? If we really wanted to reset to zero, we could make 10c, 50c, $1, and $2.5 coins. I think a $2 might make more sense, though. Of course, we have to think about what to do with the older coins. Do we just stop printing them and make all new coins with different sizes and weights? Or shall we keep the dime and quarter, and just add a $1 coin smaller than a quarter? Keep in mind that any change is likely to require the eventual replacement of coin accepters, but some changes will require a more swift replacement.

[Keevan_Colton]

Do you know what this means?

Hospitality staff dont get paid enough.

[Flagg]

I despise the way that tipping is pretty much a requirement in this country. I don't have a problem with tipping for good or even adequate service, but you are still amost obligated to leave something, even for a shitty waiter.

Well, traditionally you give something like two cents for really bad service as a signal that they really messed up.

I'm a big fan of leaving a single dime. Mainly because dimes are a bitch to pick up, and you end up having to slide it all the way to the end of the table. Granted, I've only done this maybe twice for really shitty service.

What I really can't stand is how the tips are all evenly divided up at the end of the night, which just defeats the whole purpose. If the restraunt industry were required to pay the actual minimum wage or better yet, a living wage, then tipping would make alot more sense to me.

It depends on what restaurant, though - not all divide them up equally.

All my friends that worked at restraunts had that system, so I'm just going by what they told me. I mean, I know if I were working for $4+ an hour, I'd probably want the tips shared.
It just completely defeats the purpose of tipping as far as I'm concerned. Instead of it being a bonus and reward was good service, it's become a way for the food service industry to fuck over their employees by paying them an obscenely low hourly wage.

[SCRawl]

I'm with Mr. Pink from "Reservoir Dogs". Raise the cost of the food by 10%, and pay the staff a reasonable wage.

(I should have thrown a few "mother-fuckin'"s in there, being a Tarantino reference, but I think my point is made.)

[Stark]

But they make their real money with lapdances. Trust me, most strippers, especially hot ones at places which don't look like run-down shitholes, if anything, have too much money. A gorgeous stripper at a good club could easily earn over a thousand dollars in one night. In cash. A lot of them have coke problems.

That's basically how it works here. A girl who's good at pulling it in is going to make way more doing lapdances for twenty minutes an hour than from tips etc. I think most of the differences in procedure are legal issues - US stripjoints (in movies lol) look nothing like AU stripjoints.

And yeah, strippers all over the world make fat piles of cash and blow it on drugs. I actually think it's funny.

[Bronx]

Thank God this happened.