Scientology orientation video
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Scientology orientation video
My apologies if this has been posted before, although searching the archives didn't dig up any threads on it.
Someone secretly filmed a Scientology orientation video, and it has to be, hands down, the most hokey infomercial ever committed to film. If this is what it takes to indoctrinate millions of people, I'd be on the lookout for cults worshipping Ginsu knives and Ab-rollers.
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Someone secretly filmed a Scientology orientation video, and it has to be, hands down, the most hokey infomercial ever committed to film. If this is what it takes to indoctrinate millions of people, I'd be on the lookout for cults worshipping Ginsu knives and Ab-rollers.
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The video is so bad it's hilarious, despite its rather lavish production values, and the brainwashing methods used are so laughably transparent that it truly scares me that anyone would fall for it.
The most obvious feature is proving something by excessive repetition. Is Scientology a religion? Scientology is a religion is a religion is a religion is a religion...as it pertains to tax exemption. Scientology has a building, a building, a building, a building, a building, and a boat. Who can Scientology help? Anne Archer, a doctor, a deep sea diver, Isaac Hayes, a designer, a photographer, Kirstie Alley, a butcher, a baker, a candlestick maker, John Travolta.
Only completely superficial information is provided about anything relating to Scientology itself, other than listing its ridiculously complicated paramilitary internal hierarchy. The brainwashee is inundated with positive imagery and smiling Scientologist celebs, only to be thrust in a scene where happy Scientologists purposefully walk through a doorway while the previously chipper Troy McClure-wannabe stops the viewers passage and barrages him with fire and brimstone, the errant ways of both traditional religion and secular science, and offers the alternative of a "trillion years" of happiness.
Refusing the trillion years so is YOUR choice, but it would be stupid. You also have the choice of blowing your brains out, after all. You're not stupid, are you? It's your choice. We won't tell you what to do. It's all up to you.
Sold? Congratulations, step right up to go through your 12-hour intensive auditing session.
The most obvious feature is proving something by excessive repetition. Is Scientology a religion? Scientology is a religion is a religion is a religion is a religion...as it pertains to tax exemption. Scientology has a building, a building, a building, a building, a building, and a boat. Who can Scientology help? Anne Archer, a doctor, a deep sea diver, Isaac Hayes, a designer, a photographer, Kirstie Alley, a butcher, a baker, a candlestick maker, John Travolta.
Only completely superficial information is provided about anything relating to Scientology itself, other than listing its ridiculously complicated paramilitary internal hierarchy. The brainwashee is inundated with positive imagery and smiling Scientologist celebs, only to be thrust in a scene where happy Scientologists purposefully walk through a doorway while the previously chipper Troy McClure-wannabe stops the viewers passage and barrages him with fire and brimstone, the errant ways of both traditional religion and secular science, and offers the alternative of a "trillion years" of happiness.
Refusing the trillion years so is YOUR choice, but it would be stupid. You also have the choice of blowing your brains out, after all. You're not stupid, are you? It's your choice. We won't tell you what to do. It's all up to you.
Sold? Congratulations, step right up to go through your 12-hour intensive auditing session.
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If I remember right, auditing is a thing they do to see how well they can manage their emotions and thoughts. The cans are an "E-meter"SPC Brungardt wrote:Scientology strikes me as a synthesis of religious iconography, imagery and language, and that of self-help techniques to boot. Although what the fuck is this "auditing" sessions, with the cans...?
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And they actually tried to steal IRS files.
The Scientologists also tried to frame a Holocaust survivor for terrorism, IIRC.
The Scientologists also tried to frame a Holocaust survivor for terrorism, IIRC.
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They've ruined lives, broken up families, and have killed people too, so that doesn't sound too far off the mark.Pelranius wrote:And they actually tried to steal IRS files.
The Scientologists also tried to frame a Holocaust survivor for terrorism, IIRC.
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I was watching the last half with the doors when I read this post and read the above part, thinking "paraphrased, but probably accurate". But fuck no, they actually say that you're stupid and that you can blow your brains out. Holy fuck.....unigolyn wrote: Refusing the trillion years so is YOUR choice, but it would be stupid. You also have the choice of blowing your brains out, after all. You're not stupid, are you? It's your choice. We won't tell you what to do. It's all up to you.
Sold? Congratulations, step right up to go through your 12-hour intensive auditing session.
This shit destroys braincells, I swear. I have committed several to a suicidal plunge they will never recover from.
It does. (Owwww....)CaptJodan wrote:I was watching the last half with the doors when I read this post and read the above part, thinking "paraphrased, but probably accurate". But fuck no, they actually say that you're stupid and that you can blow your brains out. Holy fuck.....unigolyn wrote: Refusing the trillion years so is YOUR choice, but it would be stupid. You also have the choice of blowing your brains out, after all. You're not stupid, are you? It's your choice. We won't tell you what to do. It's all up to you.
Sold? Congratulations, step right up to go through your 12-hour intensive auditing session.
This shit destroys braincells, I swear. I have committed several to a suicidal plunge they will never recover from.
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That entire film had the same sort of surreal quality as the news segements during Starship Troppers; of course, the fact that its real makes it infinitely worse. I was rather mortified throughout the course of it, but the last few minutes made me laugh out loud. The whole "you could kill yourself" bit was just too much. I wonder what Scientology's goons do to you if you break down laughing during in the middle of their orientation sessions.
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Hey, but they have a big ole yacht. That makes up for everything, right?
Seriously, I've only watched two minutes of it and already I feel like I'm going through euthanasia. The first 30 seconds watching asteroids and then so far a minute and a half of "This is such and such Scientology building."
Seriously, I've only watched two minutes of it and already I feel like I'm going through euthanasia. The first 30 seconds watching asteroids and then so far a minute and a half of "This is such and such Scientology building."
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Funny as hell. One day I have to go to an auditing and see how far into the bureacracy I can get. These guys are fucknuts. A 2-year-old could see how hard they're pushing to sell their books.
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OK, at the 25 minute mark, all they've really said is boasted about their status as a legitimate religion and that they have tax exempt status. At one point they attack the government as a lying brain washing organization and then turn around and wank over having official government endorsement.
After that about five minutes of vague testimonials.
Last, a few minutes of wank over what a great organization Scientology is and finally, a bit of a glimpse into what they're really about--thinking the world is about to be destroyed but saving your soul. Then more propaganda.
And what a great way to conclude: have the video become filled with rapid pauses, making the guy's closing speil incomprehensible. Did anyone else experience that in the last ~20 seconds?
After that about five minutes of vague testimonials.
Last, a few minutes of wank over what a great organization Scientology is and finally, a bit of a glimpse into what they're really about--thinking the world is about to be destroyed but saving your soul. Then more propaganda.
And what a great way to conclude: have the video become filled with rapid pauses, making the guy's closing speil incomprehensible. Did anyone else experience that in the last ~20 seconds?
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I loved when he said that Scientology has undergone the most rigorous of tests and survived attempts at being destroyed better than any other religion. Ya know, because Christians weren't hunted down for a time in Roman times, and the Jews haven't been slaughtered and subjected numerous times in history, just to name two easy ones.
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Well, I understood the basic jist of it. It's really the same thing that other religions say. "You have a choice - not really, since if you don't take our option, you burn in hell forever - but you have a choice to accept [insert deity]." And yes, I also experienced technical problems at the end.And what a great way to conclude: have the video become filled with rapid pauses, making the guy's closing speil incomprehensible. Did anyone else experience that in the last ~20 seconds?
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What? You think the Romans can hold a candle to the IRS?Captain Cyran wrote:I loved when he said that Scientology has undergone the most rigorous of tests and survived attempts at being destroyed better than any other religion. Ya know, because Christians weren't hunted down for a time in Roman times, and the Jews haven't been slaughtered and subjected numerous times in history, just to name two easy ones.
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I haven't managed to watch it all yet, but I think the funniest moment so far has been the narrator talking about how "the lives and works of materialists certainly prove that they are not godly men". Quite apart from the stupidity of blaming "materialism" for the world's problems (such as, of course, the atom bomb), I really have to wonder if these guys realise the absurdity of that statement - of course materialists are not godly men, because they don't believe in God!
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