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Rye wrote:What a cunning, evil and terminally gross bastard this chinaman was.
FYI "Chinaman" is considered a racial slur in a lot of places.
But... he's a man from China? I'm a man from England, call me an Englishman and call it even?
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Grasscutter wrote:They've worked their way into colloquial usage in some areas of the U.S., for good or ill.
Regardless of "Jap" and where and how you've come across it, Rye's from England...
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I'm sure someone would start objecting if they started saying "chink", since I see absolutely no problem with Chinaman, apart from potential feminist responses that would be obvious. I have heard plenty of people go on about "Jap" being as bad as "nip" or "Tojo Man", so I often have to correct friends that think it's acceptable.

As for this story, it's gross, but also highly enterprising. I think the marks I'd give for ingenuity would be subtracted by the gross-out factor, but the bonus of it not being on my continent might make for a win overall.
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Frank Hipper wrote:
Grasscutter wrote:They've worked their way into colloquial usage in some areas of the U.S., for good or ill.
Regardless of "Jap" and where and how you've come across it, Rye's from England...
Like I said, I wasn't assuming Rye was using it in a racist sense. The post was intended as information and I apologize Rye if it came off as admonishment.

If you informed me a term I was using, in a certain context, could be considered a racial slur in England I'd stop using it in that context on the internet.
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Frank Hipper wrote:
Grasscutter wrote:They've worked their way into colloquial usage in some areas of the U.S., for good or ill.
Regardless of "Jap" and where and how you've come across it, Rye's from England...
If you say "Jap" around here, it's translated to "Jewish American Princess". Ah, the wonders of Long Island...
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Rye wrote:
Grasscutter wrote:
Rye wrote:What a cunning, evil and terminally gross bastard this chinaman was.
FYI "Chinaman" is considered a racial slur in a lot of places.
But... he's a man from China? I'm a man from England, call me an Englishman and call it even?
And "nigger" is just a corruption of "negro", which is just Spanish for black. It doesn't matter if "Chinaman" literally only means "a man from China". In the United States at least, it's a racial slur because of its historical usage as a racial slur.
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Grasscutter wrote:Who's ever said that applying the term "Asian" to a person of Asian descent or "Chinese" to someone who's from China is offensive?

"Chinaman" isn't considered offensive because it's an indicator of a person's ethnic origin. It's offensive because it was historically used as a racial slur.
In the case of 'asian', oftentimes various types who don't want to be associated with other nations, like how Brazilians resent the term 'Latin American'.
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Shroom Man 777 wrote:Yay for the upcoming superpower! Now all those azn chinawankers can lubricate themselves with sewage too!
I think those chinawankers will proclaim that china has matured, since as you can clearly see, no more do the authorities let business owners flagrantly violate heatlh laws :D
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"Chinaman" is not offensive in this case because the guy actually lives in China.

However, if you call me a Chinaman, I will point out that I've never been to China in my life, neither my mother or my father came from China, and you're an ignorant racist pigfucker who obviously think that all Asians are the same.
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Darth Wong wrote:"Chinaman" is not offensive in this case because the guy actually lives in China.

However, if you call me a Chinaman, I will point out that I've never been to China in my life, neither my mother or my father came from China, and you're an ignorant racist pigfucker who obviously think that all Asians are the same.
That reminds me of that stupid "African-American" term used rather than just black given the number of blacks in the US who've never once been to Africa. I suppose if you want to be pedantic, you would be Sino-Canadian, but otherwise, you're a Canuck with Asian history.
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Admiral Valdemar wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:"Chinaman" is not offensive in this case because the guy actually lives in China.

However, if you call me a Chinaman, I will point out that I've never been to China in my life, neither my mother or my father came from China, and you're an ignorant racist pigfucker who obviously think that all Asians are the same.
That reminds me of that stupid "African-American" term used rather than just black given the number of blacks in the US who've never once been to Africa. I suppose if you want to be pedantic, you would be Sino-Canadian, but otherwise, you're a Canuck with Asian history.
[nationality]-American has been the way Americans have categorized themselves ethnically since at least the early 20th century, when Woodrow Wilson was bitching about it (and implying immigrants, especially those dastardly German immigrants, weren't loyal citizens). It's hardly a term unique to African Americans; most whites will identify themselves as German-American, Italian-American, Hungarian-Czech-Dutch-Greek-Russian-Irish-American, whatever. In the case of blacks descended from slaves (excluding recent African immigrants but including Caribbean immigrants whose ancestors were brought to this hemisphere as slaves), an entire continent is used because most African American families have no idea what part of Africa in which their ancestors lived (and none of the states that were there at the time except Ethiopia exist anymore).
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