RedImperator wrote:Yeah, that's right. You showed me how much cheese TOS had and totally demolished my "oBSG sucks because it's full of cheese" argument.
No, I countered your argument. Which you seem to have a problem with.
That's why I never said anything like this:
Nice cherry picking, but let's re-examine your original post:
I look at oBSG the same way I do Voyager: excellent premise, good production values, decent acting (Lorne Green trumps Kate Mulgrew, certainly), awesome ship design (again, way cooler than Voyager and overall better than nBSG's Galactica), great villains (in Voyager's case, this would be the Borg, not the Kazons or whatever other lameass space rednecks they found), all of it wasted on terrible writing. You have a fantastic premise, a deadly enemy, an entire galaxy to play with and an enormous budget and the best you can come up with in the first season is a casino planet? Come on.
Your "summation" as it were, complained that the reason oBSG doesn't work as drama and it doesn't work as cheesy space fun was exemplified by "the casino" planet. Yet when I pointed out all the various theme planets TOS had, only THEN did you decide to expand on your OP, and re-interpret it. So again, thanks for moving those goalposts, pal.
You took "casino planet" to mean "I object because it's cheesy" instead of "I object because it doesn't fit the premise,
Yes, especially since that's what you meant in your OP before deciding to "re-imagine" it.
That's your fault, not mine, and no matter how big a temper tantrum you throw, that won't change. Next time, read what I actually write.
I did. Next time, own up to what you fucking write.
The worst you could accuse me of is not being clear enough in my statement, which I would have happily conceded if you'd called me on it.
Nice try. Of course I didn't "call" on not being clear. I called you on basing your "oBSG doesn't work" on "Duh, casino planet!" Which is what you originally wrote.
But you chose to attempt to use your psychic powers to divine my real meaning and have accused me, twice now, of dishonesty with absolutely no basis for doing so.
Other than your OP, which is quite clear. If you'd stop being a baby about it, you'd admit to it.
I hate to break it to you, but being an Internet blowhard doesn't qualify you to read minds.
No, but it does allow me to see through backpedaling assholes who want to re-interpret what they originally said when their OP is countered with the same bullshit they thew against the wall. That's not psychic powers, that's experience.
And meanwhile, speaking of stuff I actually said, can I assume you've conceded the entire debate on the specifics of Starbuck's behavior on Carillon in "Saga of a Star World", seeing as you have declined to respond to a single point?
To a point, yes. Because unlike you, I didn't look up an oBSG episode guide before I posted, and relied on memory of the old show. And again, this isn't psychic powers; you stated in your OP that:
My dad has the pilot movie. I tried to watch it. After the destruction of the colonies, it started to suck and I eventually turned it off halfway through.
So, looking at an
episode guide, we find that you're right about the populace of Carillon being unaware of the Cylon's campaign of destruction. However, we also see that Starbuck finds time to screw Cassiopia on the flight deck on his off time, and isn't in an emo funk even on his off hours. We see him take advantage of the "casino" even over the protests of Boomer. So no, I wasn't wrong about Starbuck's behavior or personality. I've no interest going round and round with you as you find new avenues to reinterpret your posts.
