MKSheppard and DR6

[Darth Wong]

To be honest, bringing up Elfdart is arguably a violation of the "No Vendettas" rule on Shep's part. However, I think the case could be made that this entire thread is also a violation of the "No Vendettas" rule, since I quite frankly refuse to believe that if anybody else had said that, it would have garnered the same response.

Rather than start bashing heads over what looks to me like a group attempt to ignore one of our board's rules, I would strongly suggest that before "going after" someone (or, in a moderator capacity, openly hoping for an excuse to nail somebody), people remember the "No Vendettas" rule and keep it in mind. It was created precisely to avoid this kind of bullshit.

[Simplicius]

In that light, perhaps it would not be inappropriate for me to speak up, since I'm relatively new to the forum and haven't crossed paths (or swords) with MKSheppard but once, if I remember right.

I am not of the mind that either of the rules violations cited, in and of themselves, are sufficient to warrant action. However, such pointlessly juvenile and provocative behavior which skirts rules so closely is worthy of our consideration as a simple matter of quality control. Were it to become much more prolific than a cursory search of the HoS suggests it is now, something by way of a pronouncement on the matter would not seem inappropriate.

[Connor MacLeod]

To be honest, ,I can't really see it as a vendetta (unless its a group vendetta which I kind of find unlikely), because a.) No specific action was requested (if it WAs, and I think Nitram thought it could be done, he would have pressed for a ban of Shep, rather than asking in general "what should, if anything, be done.) In my opinion, it does seem like Shep did bend if not break that rule, but that's me.

On the other hand, I don't think it was exactly a MAJOR issue, as such things go, and it didn't really warrant a thread. Mainly because I tend ot see Shep as being something of an exception where some of those rules go. He, like certain forum people, (again in my opinion) seem to be tolerated despite haivng an incosistent history of being useful (or tend to see more or less uesless, except to add variety or color or atmosphere. I'm sure others can think of people like that.)

Shep, like it or not, seems to be well established here enough that unless he screws up majorly or pisses Mike off somehow, is going to stay even if he does break certain rules in minor ways. (Kinda like Wayne or Brian young or Curtis... They're not likely to get kicked out unless they really screw up major like.)

Additionally, as mentioned, ,he's been "disciplined" before and its not realyl seemed to have moderated his behaviour, so it further discussion or administering of a minor punishment is kind of meaningless, shot of a permban (and as I said, I don't think thats bloody likely, not over this anyyhow.)

[Darth Wong]

Shep bringing up Elfdart was definitely a vendetta rule violation, as Elfdart has nothing whatsoever to do with this. And as for Shep, I reiterate that someone else could have posted that line without garnering the same response.

[SirNitram]

Shep bringing up Elfdart was definitely a vendetta rule violation, as Elfdart has nothing whatsoever to do with this. And as for Shep, I reiterate that someone else could have posted that line without garnering the same response.

Probably. However, I beleive it reasonable that such a long-time member be expected not to flaunt the rules.