Iran to base oil revenues on Euros

N&P: Discuss governments, nations, politics and recent related news here.

Moderators: Alyrium Denryle, Edi, K. A. Pital

User avatar
Lord Zentei
Space Elf Psyker
Posts: 8742
Joined: 2004-11-22 02:49am
Location: Ulthwé Craftworld, plotting the downfall of the Imperium.

Post by Lord Zentei »

Jadeite wrote:Well, if we just trash their refineries, we collapse their economy, and therefore they won't be doing any trading in Euros because they won't be selling oil. It'd make a nice example out of them as well.
Neither will they be trading in dollars, just to add to what Nitram said. Even from a purely selfish perspective, this plan isn't such hot shit.
CotK <mew> | HAB | JL | MM | TTC | Cybertron

TAX THE CHURCHES! - Lord Zentei TTC Supreme Grand Prophet

And the LORD said, Let there be Bosons! Yea and let there be Bosoms too!
I'd rather be the great great grandson of a demon ninja than some jackass who grew potatos. -- Covenant
Dead cows don't fart. -- CJvR
...and I like strudel! :mrgreen: -- Asuka
User avatar
RedImperator
Roosevelt Republican
Posts: 16465
Joined: 2002-07-11 07:59pm
Location: Delaware
Contact:

Post by RedImperator »

Alan Bolte wrote:What effect do you think this will have on countries which own a lot of our debt? I assume our debt is counted in dollars, rather than the currency of the holding country.
Since that debt is an asset for them, they're in no hurry to see the US dollar inflate to worthlessness. Still, it's not comforting to know that your country has spent itself into depending upon the tender mercies of Asian central bankers.
Image
Any city gets what it admires, will pay for, and, ultimately, deserves…We want and deserve tin-can architecture in a tinhorn culture. And we will probably be judged not by the monuments we build but by those we have destroyed.--Ada Louise Huxtable, "Farewell to Penn Station", New York Times editorial, 30 October 1963
X-Ray Blues
User avatar
J
Kaye Elle Emenopey
Posts: 5837
Joined: 2002-12-14 02:23pm

Post by J »

Jadeite wrote:
haard wrote:Invade Iran, anyone?
Well, if we just trash their refineries, we collapse their economy, and therefore they won't be doing any trading in Euros because they won't be selling oil. It'd make a nice example out of them as well.
Well, aside from an OPEC oil embargo and skyrocketing oil prices & inflation to go along with it, a stock market collapse, economic hell & crippling debt for many millions of Americans with bankruptsies all around, even more hatred from pretty much every country other than Israel, permanent destruction of Mid East relations, and screwing up the armed forces even more, it sounds like a great idea. Better get used to paying $10-20 for a gallon of gas several times more for food & other essentials while your wage stagnates or falls, that is if you still have a job.
This post is a 100% natural organic product.
The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects


I'm not sure why people choose 'To Love is to Bury' as their wedding song...It's about a murder-suicide
- Margo Timmins


When it becomes serious, you have to lie
- Jean-Claude Juncker
User avatar
J
Kaye Elle Emenopey
Posts: 5837
Joined: 2002-12-14 02:23pm

Post by J »

An update. Iran has reportedly stopped accepting US dollars as payment for oil.

Link
U.S. dollars not accepted for Iranian oil


Published: Dec. 8, 2007 at 4:24 PM
Print story Email to a friend Font size:TEHRAN, Dec. 8 (UPI) -- The Iranian government reportedly is refusing U.S. dollars as payment for its oil, calling it an "unreliable currency."

Iranian Oil Minister Gholamhossein Nozari was quoted as saying Saturday that because "the dollar is no longer a reliable currency," his country would no longer accept it in oil sales, RIA Novosti reported.

"In line with a policy of selling crude oil in currencies other than the U.S. dollar, the sale of our country's oil in U.S. dollars has been completely eliminated," Nozari reportedly said.

The monetary move comes after Iranian officials proposed excluding U.S. dollars from oil sales at an Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries summit in November.

China's official Xinhua news agency said Iran's opposition of the U.S. dollar appears to be a response to growing pressure from the United States regarding the Middle Eastern country's controversial nuclear program.
This post is a 100% natural organic product.
The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects


I'm not sure why people choose 'To Love is to Bury' as their wedding song...It's about a murder-suicide
- Margo Timmins


When it becomes serious, you have to lie
- Jean-Claude Juncker
User avatar
Guardsman Bass
Cowardly Codfish
Posts: 9281
Joined: 2002-07-07 12:01am
Location: Beneath the Deepest Sea

Post by Guardsman Bass »

Do you think we'll see this in terms of greater inflation here in the US right away, or will it take a good chunk of time?
“It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life.”
-Jean-Luc Picard


"Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them."
-Margaret Atwood
User avatar
J
Kaye Elle Emenopey
Posts: 5837
Joined: 2002-12-14 02:23pm

Post by J »

Hard to say, though I think it's something that's going to take a while to work its way through the system before affecting the US. The US doesn't buy any oil from Iran so it's not directly affected, but the countries which do and pay in US dollars will be looking for something to do with all their suddenly useless greenbacks.
This post is a 100% natural organic product.
The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects


I'm not sure why people choose 'To Love is to Bury' as their wedding song...It's about a murder-suicide
- Margo Timmins


When it becomes serious, you have to lie
- Jean-Claude Juncker
User avatar
NeoGoomba
Sith Devotee
Posts: 3269
Joined: 2002-12-22 11:35am
Location: Upstate New York

Post by NeoGoomba »

I wonder if the economic consequences of this will be used by Iran as a topic to try and get the US off its back in nuke talks?
"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it. Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you'll know...tomorrow."
-Agent Kay
Post Reply