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Stark wrote:Yeah, Mesmers are awesome just for all the ways you can kill people who aren't paying attention. Even cheap shit like Spirit Shackles and Empathy can quickly kill/shutdown people who never notice you put them on... and Me/N with all the N condition-spreading skills is awesome.
Probably my favorite pairing with the assassin. Backfire and Empathy were my best friends and let me go toe to toe with enemies a not so built up assassin typically can't go toe to toe with. :D
Got to remember that for when I actually buy Factions. Right now, I just want to get a little further in Prophecies, and make it to level 20.

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Backfire is probably my favourite spell in long time, especially if dropped on a Monk or a */Mo who's not concentrating.

Apply Poison and Conjure Phantasm for a R/Me are gloriously insane, as they don't do HP damage but add up to a stupid health degeneration. Very few healing spells are effective against that.

Incidentally, I dug out my R/Me yesterday, name of Tenshi Tao (named during my otaku days :oops:) and she's presently lurking in one of the three ports, depending on mood.
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Braedley wrote:
Gaidin wrote:
Stark wrote:Yeah, Mesmers are awesome just for all the ways you can kill people who aren't paying attention. Even cheap shit like Spirit Shackles and Empathy can quickly kill/shutdown people who never notice you put them on... and Me/N with all the N condition-spreading skills is awesome.
Probably my favorite pairing with the assassin. Backfire and Empathy were my best friends and let me go toe to toe with enemies a not so built up assassin typically can't go toe to toe with. :D
Got to remember that for when I actually buy Factions. Right now, I just want to get a little further in Prophecies, and make it to level 20.
Just make sure you don't design your assassin around a long combo...Back fire is 15 mana...which is a big hit at the beginning of the fight unless you're a elementalist.
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Vanas wrote:Backfire is probably my favourite spell in long time, especially if dropped on a Monk or a */Mo who's not concentrating.

Apply Poison and Conjure Phantasm for a R/Me are gloriously insane, as they don't do HP damage but add up to a stupid health degeneration. Very few healing spells are effective against that.
Blessed Light - a very common spell in PvP takes away a hex , a condition and heals a fair amout of health. Using offensive spells on a physical damage class is a bad idea most of the time. Conjure Phantasm cost 10 energy and spells are not affected by expertise. Degen stops at 10 - this means your target will loose 20 HP/sec. Using conditions only to generate degeneration make much more sense as a primary ranger. Backfire is a nice spell against casters but it is single target only and has a long cast and recast time. The necromancer hexes spoil victor and spite full spirit are the best spells in this area.
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For a Ranger, the new Burning Arrow Elite skill in Nightfall is much better than Conjure Phantasm. It costs 10 E, but Expertise helps it. Best of all, Burning Arrow can be capped as soon as you leave the starting island.
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One of the best things about Nightfall is how fast you get to the meat - some Elites are even available on Istan.
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LMAO you should've called it "Army Strong." Would've made me hit buy right away!

I'm leaning closer to buying it now. Just need some indication I don't have to treat it seriously, cause I can't play MMORPGs seriously since I turned 21. Last time I was into GW, too serious, sucked up too much of my time, that's not happening again, but if I was to get it now, it'd be for shits and giggles. And that there's an SDN Nightfall guild forming with at least 10 people. If there is one MMORPG out there you don't have to take seriously to be fun GW is it I know, so it's probably happening, either this week or a month.
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I don't know how anyone can take any MMO seriously, especially something like GW. I can't even play EVE very solidly, and it's a far more involving, interesting game.
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Stark wrote:I don't know how anyone can take any MMO seriously, especially something like GW. I can't even play EVE very solidly, and it's a far more involving, interesting game.
Sure you can. Multiple accounts, power leveling, teamspeak, reading and knowing all the reload time, energy cost, and so on in the whole frickin' game like it's some kind of exam, hunching over and waiting for a new patch to bring out a new area and a weapon that might give you a +1 edge on some useless stat... basically PvP. I wasn't this bad, was more into PvE, but that's the mindset. At least GW is not as bad as WoW where you go on eight hour raids, a lot of people on this forum can tell you about that I bet.

Truthfully, I think a person really can't take anything seriously once they've had sex, except sex. Or if you're thinking about sex all the time and haven't had it yet :wink:.
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Frankly, people who do that are just idiots. You don't have to obsess to be good... unless you're just a clueless retard. I do okay in PvP, and I sometimes even accidentally use a PvE build. LOL!
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brianeyci wrote:LMAO you should've called it "Army Strong." Would've made me hit buy right away!

I'm leaning closer to buying it now. Just need some indication I don't have to treat it seriously, cause I can't play MMORPGs seriously since I turned 21. Last time I was into GW, too serious, sucked up too much of my time, that's not happening again, but if I was to get it now, it'd be for shits and giggles. And that there's an SDN Nightfall guild forming with at least 10 people. If there is one MMORPG out there you don't have to take seriously to be fun GW is it I know, so it's probably happening, either this week or a month.
Max level is still 20, again mainly to encourage tactics being the deciding factor among players rather than huge amounts of time invested. It's not like they're getting paid for you to play it month after month.

I prefer it because I can get slammed by school, not play for 3 months, come right back and still perform on par with the high level missions.
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Okay so first impressions compared to GW... I'm still on a shit laptop, so the graphics aren't any better. And I'm playing different classes, and only up to level six. First I had Stark help me (yes he helps people LOL) with a Paragon, wasn't even trying at all.

Today made a mesmer and went to six on my own and paid attention. You get interesting things going on right away instead of in Prophecies. I had Conjure Phantasm, Clumsiness, and Signet of Clumsiness, and put on four attribute points to start with on illusion. Was killing level 8 things with my level 3 mesmer and a computer healer, getting 150+ xp. Granted, only one level eight guy at a time, and small mobs of level two guys and maybe two level six, but that's good with starter armor.

But even with my gank build, it was still more profitable to do quests. I got maybe two levels out of grinding, and four from quests. I have to say I'm somewhat impressed. I can't wait to get to 20, so I can concentrate on collecting money to buy skills, then move to PvP (PvE doesn't interest me too much, at least not solo PvE, and the story is still shit. Item hoarding and collecting doesn't interest me either. I'll beat it once but that's it.)
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What did I tell you: they've actually made interesting changes to the way the game flows, and it's good. Otherwise I never would have started playing again.
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What's your handle? (Lady Zimraphel here) I'm thinking about bringing up an elementalist and it would be a lot more fun if I had someone to quest with this time.

Also, regarding Factions: Damn you level fast. It rains exp, and there aren't nearly as many "Do this short quest. Oh, damn... looks like you have to do these three other things you didn't know about before you get the reward!" as there are in Nightfall. Or maybe I'm just not to them yet... but I can hope.
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Yeah, Brian noticed that in Nightfall. Instead of piles of lame 200xp quests, it's 1000xp, 2000xp, 5000xp. None of this grinding, none of this 'pre searing' bullshit, no gravel pit for miles. :)
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Well after wasting a whole day on this, it's definitely something I can get into. Mostly because I'll usually only have an hour a day, and it looks like I can actually advance in the game in one hour, instead of horsing around.

I'll be online 11 PM EST to 12 PM EST most days, if I'm not swamped by work. My character's Raelyn Reaver but I can't really help anyone at all yet, still a puny level 11 with no money and no items and no idea how the game works. Also a shit computer with 300 ping, so my mesmer blows. Hopefully I'll catch Beowulf or my alter ego online one day and he can hook me up with dyes and materials and money heh heh. I'll probably end up doing PvE even though I hate it, just because I'm way too lagged for PvP, and I'll probably end up farming a lot, even though I hate it, just to make a lot of money for the guild, but oh well, I'll get a new computer in two years or a year.
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Stark wrote:Hey, I'VE got 300 ping. I'm an Australian, I'm USED to it. :)
At home I have a ping that usually ranges between 200 and 300. 300 is very respectable for Guild Wars, even if it wouldn't do for games like WoW or FPSs. Now here at university, since I haven't yet asked that my packet priority be upped, I'm getting a 1500-3000 ping during the day. My only chance to play would be at about 3 in the morning, but that still has the problem that bit torrent use is highest over night, and its priority is at least listed (even if it is somewheres low on the list). That, and I have class in the mornings.
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I wouldn't mind the high ping so much if my load times were lower.

If anybody has any ideas how to better my load times short of buying a new computer, I'm listening. Lowest settings don't seem to improve much, and makes it look like shit besides.

I never paid attention to conditions. But with epidemic I'm seeing tons of combinations... elementalist/mesmer with blinding flash, warrior/mesmer with bleeding, crippled, deep wound, dazed, etc., and the king, necromancer, with poison, diseased and weakness. Definitely making most of my characters mesmers, if not primary then secondary. I completely ignored mesmers in prophecies with my lag, so should be fun.
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Well I'm at the consulate docks, at level 14. What I don't get is all the level twenties there... what did they do, run around grinding for a week, or do every single puny quest there was for xp instead of following the main storyline? I couldn't give a flying fuck about some kid who lost his mommy or some annoying bookworms. I couldn't really give a flying fuck about the main story either, I'm barely following it, but it seems to me a lot of shit people playing. Why the hell do you need to get to level 20 on Istani. Yes, I did get run through a couple missions, but with 8 other hench I could've breezed through it anyway even without help. None of the missions are particularly difficult. And I can already buy maximum armor.

The requirement to get there was either level seventeen, or sunspear points. Seventeen. Seventeen. Would've taken another two dozen quests to get that far. I might be skipping a lot of the sidestory, but I couldn't give two shits.

I have to say though, even though the story is shit, and the side stories even shitter, it's still enjoyable. Because of the heroes, and the fast rewards and progression. I'm waiting for the fast progression to burn out, and for real skill necessary to advance in the main plot... when that happens, I'll start fiddling around with hero skills and my main's skills and have to find good groups to finish missions with strategy and care... that's the main allure of GW right now, not the items, not the fast leveling, definitely not the story, but the skills. I'm playing a dervish and it seems pretty straightforward.

The riot is nobody wanting you in your party unless you're 20 by the docks. With sunspear points, there's no way a person gets that far without a bit of skill... I didn't need to get to 20 and have another 120 hit points to get that far, and I didn't need to do every fucking quest. But somehow, level's a good indication of skill, those 120 hit points are worth a damn lot. Yeah, right.
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I was wrong. You really do need to be level 18 to beat Consulate Docks, or be in a party with mostly level 18's. Or be better than I am, but I dunno what I could've done more with the skills I had at 14. Fucking missions are hard as hell.

Now I'm sixteen, and at 2.5k experience a quest, it looks like I'll hit 20 soon. Eventually I want to farm areas in pairs, to get enough money to make life easy for my other characters. Doesn't necessarily have to be an area with maximum items too... even the areas I'm fighting in now drop 100 gold a critter. Problem is it looks like Life Barrier is Prophecies only, so my usual Life Barrier + Life Bond combination won't work... but I'm sure a monk character together with a warrior character, fighting in an area without enchantment strippers, could still farm, one small group at a time. The idea is to avoid hench sharing your loot at all costs... in areas designed for 8 players, if you can drop it to 2 suddenly you're getting a lot of money.
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No, you really don't. I've sent characters through there at 16 with heroes/henchies, and they do fine. Olias FTW. Even better, you can't get Olias because he's in prophecies. LOL! :)
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Stark wrote:No, you really don't. I've sent characters through there at 16 with heroes/henchies, and they do fine. Olias FTW. Even better, you can't get Olias because he's in prophecies. LOL! :)
Ah you fucking shit, I knew there was something wrong when I saw Eve and not Olias.

I don't know, I was 14 and I couldn't beat it with other 14's. I tried with one other 14 player, we both used all our heroes, 2xkoss 2xtahiti 2xdunkaroo. I never tried with the 17 hench. Difference between 14 and 16 doesn't seem to be that much, but to me it was... I was dying all the time. And I was too fucking cheap to buy gloves or sandals, so every once in a while someone got a lucky hit and one shot KOed LOL!

I guess I suck :P.
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Didn't I already run you through there? Or was that another character?
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