How would you fix/run America?

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2002-12-31 08:13pm

HemlockGrey wrote:Except that mandatory conscription is completely unnecessary.

So is the annexing Canada bit. The Ever-Victorious Army(consisting of three rifles and a truck) has already annexed Canada(now Greater Montana) along with France and all of Nigeria.

it's unnecessary *now*. give it two years as we march into a dozen warzones at once. we'll need the troopers.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2002-12-31 08:14pm

HemlockGrey wrote:Except that mandatory conscription is completely unnecessary.

So is the annexing Canada bit. The Ever-Victorious Army(consisting of three rifles and a truck) has already annexed Canada(now Greater Montana) along with France and all of Nigeria.

Don't insult Nigeria by comparing it to France or Canada in military ability. They had more ammunition blown up last year in there capital then Canada has total.

Look up the Biafra War

Ted · Post by **Ted** » 2002-12-31 08:16pm

The first thing I'd do would be to take the FBI, CIA, and NSA and amalgamate them, or disband them and create new intel agencies that COOPERATED WITH EACH OTHER, NOT FOUGHT WITH EACH OTHER, I'd make it illegal for possesion of all semi and full automatic weapons, and any weapon with a calibre greater than 5.56 illegal for civilians.

Cut the CIA's involvement in foreign nations, eg revolutionary programmes, etc... Saving me billions of dollars, allowing it spent on education.

Cut the military's budget by 90%, take the weapons away from the USCG, leave that to the USN.

Apply a 500% tax on all fundies, etc...

Have Asscroft publicly raped/tortured/etc on National TV. Along with shrub, and all those fuckktards in power now.

Cut all aid to israel, demand the unpaid war debts from France, Germany, Russia, etc...

I would increase Amtrak's budget, nationalize the railways, put a security tax on airports (ala Canada).

I'd do alot more, but this is what I can think of now.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-12-31 08:20pm

Spanky: Who's Plutonium?

SS: Exactly. Perfect diversion.

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2002-12-31 08:21pm

Ted wrote:The first thing I'd do would be to take the FBI, CIA, and NSA and amalgamate them, or disband them and create new intel agencies that COOPERATED WITH EACH OTHER, NOT FOUGHT WITH EACH OTHER, I'd make it illegal for possesion of all semi and full automatic weapons, and any weapon with a calibre greater than 5.56 illegal for civilians.

Cut the CIA's involvement in foreign nations, eg revolutionary programmes, etc... Saving me billions of dollars, allowing it spent on education.

Cut the military's budget by 90%, take the weapons away from the USCG, leave that to the USN.

Apply a 500% tax on all fundies, etc...

Have Asscroft publicly raped/tortured/etc on National TV. Along with shrub, and all those fuckktards in power now.

Cut all aid to israel, demand the unpaid war debts from France, Germany, Russia, etc...

I would increase Amtrak's budget, nationalize the railways, put a security tax on airports (ala Canada).

I'd do alot more, but this is what I can think of now.

damn. we're like total opposites. I'd have the c.i.a. bigger and nastier, and them mucking up 40 countries. Id have isreal knock out the middle east, ignore the fundies, and have the fbi do their thing away from the cia. they have different purposes. Id do a cold war build up and use it all over the place, and do the nation building of pr. goodbye, every despot this world has spat up - democracy lives.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-12-31 08:25pm

HemlockGrey wrote:Spanky: Who's Plutonium?

Pu-239.

IIRC, Pu=plutoniom.

aerius · Post by **aerius** » 2002-12-31 09:12pm

The justice & legal systems will be getting a complete reform to eliminate stupid frivolous lawsuits. The next idiot to sue Micky D's when he spills hot coffee on himself will be laughed out of court and be required to pay all legal fees for all parties involved for wasting the court's time. He'll then get fined and have his ass tossed in jail. Any lawyer dumb enough to offer his services to such a dumbass client will be barred from practicing law and have his ass tossed in jail as well. Same thing goes for the idiots suing tobacco companies, and all the other fucked up lawsuits they have in the states. This will free up the courts so they can deal with cases involving pedophiles, rapists, and other such scumbags.

Crime control. There are countless perps running around on the streets with lengthy rap sheets and they're all known to police. A lot of them are career criminals scumbags. Since I've just freed up the courts and fixed up the legal system, the cops can now bust all the perps and put them in jail. If one of those racial activists wants to complain about profiling and discrimination because all the perps happen to be black or latino or whatever, they can kiss my ass and join the perps in jail for obstructing justice.

Weapons control laws will be tossed out the window. If you're a citizen with a clean record and demonstrate proper firearms knowledge you can own whatever you want. If you want a Barret M82 or an AK-47 or Uzi you can go buy one at your local dealer. Special licensing and tests will be required though for belt-feds and other such heavy weapons. Nationwide concealed carry permits will be available to all citizens who meet the requirements.

Religion, I don't care what you believe in, you are free to practice your faith at home or church. But if you start preaching at work or try to push your religion on the education system your life is not going to be fun. Religion will be gone from the public education system, well, not exactly, as we'll be using science & logic to show the stupidities of the bible so the kids can see it for what it is, a fairytale.

Drinking age will get dropped to 18 nationwide, it's fucking retarded that someone can graduate from college before being able to drink legally. Besides, who the fuck can't get a drink in college? If you're old enough to be in college, you should be getting wasted and getting laid during frosh week.

Which brings me to sex. As long as you're of age and it's consensual, you can do whatever the hell you want in private as long as no one gets killed. I'll be getting rich off my nationwide chain of stores specializing in sex toys, costumes, and porn.

Military, I'm highly skeptical of all those high-tech soldier of the future concepts with computerized guns and where every soldier is a walking computer hooked up to some kind of central command. For the price and weight of that stuff I'd much rather give them body armour of some sort in addition to more advanced training & better pay to retain skilled personnel. The next country that tries something stupid will make for an excellent example of what my armed forces can do.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-12-31 09:14pm

as we'll be using science & logic to show the stupidities of the bible so the kids can see it for what it is, a fairytale.

The government cannot do that. You cannot have public schools tell children that the Bible or any other religious book is false.

Ted · Post by **Ted** » 2002-12-31 09:15pm

HemlockGrey wrote:
as we'll be using science & logic to show the stupidities of the bible so the kids can see it for what it is, a fairytale.
The government cannot do that. You cannot have public schools tell children that the Bible or any other religious book is false.

Says who?

You ARE the government, and the gov controls the education policy so if the fucktards say no, you kick them out.

aerius · Post by **aerius** » 2002-12-31 09:18pm

HemlockGrey wrote:
as we'll be using science & logic to show the stupidities of the bible so the kids can see it for what it is, a fairytale.
The government cannot do that. You cannot have public schools tell children that the Bible or any other religious book is false.

Of course I can, I'm running the damn government and making the laws here aren't I? And I'm only using the bible as an example. I'm thinking of a religious studies class where students will learn about the basics of various religions and why they're all full of hooey.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-12-31 09:21pm

HemlockGrey wrote:The government cannot do that. You cannot have public schools tell children that the Bible or any other religious book is false.

They already do. Any geology, physics, astronomy, or biology textbook already states in no uncertain terms that the Bible is false. Why do you think the fundies want them all censored and mutilated?

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2002-12-31 09:28pm

aerius wrote:
HemlockGrey wrote:
as we'll be using science & logic to show the stupidities of the bible so the kids can see it for what it is, a fairytale.
The government cannot do that. You cannot have public schools tell children that the Bible or any other religious book is false.
Of course I can, I'm running the damn government and making the laws here aren't I? And I'm only using the bible as an example. I'm thinking of a religious studies class where students will learn about the basics of various religions and why they're all full of hooey.

Violation of the First Amendment. And before you say, "I'm in charge, I'll amend the Constitution", you need 3/4 of the states to ratify a constitutional amendment, and the scenario doesn't give you that. Teaching children their religion is a load of crap is the creation and imposition of an official governement religious policy. The only thing you can do is have a thorough science program and give the children the tools to form their own conclusion.

Ted · Post by **Ted** » 2002-12-31 09:30pm

Then the bible belt is acting unconstitutionally, by only teaching creation, they are forcing government religious bullshit down the kids throats.

God Emperor · Post by **God Emperor** » 2002-12-31 09:30pm

I would leave the UN, dispand the congress and declare myselft Emperor.
All represive sex laws will be gotten ride of. Fundies will be shone for the fools they are. The justice system will be tweaked a bit, public flogging.
The millitary forces will suport themselves more by selling out their services to other countries. Finaly promote genetic enginering and increase the level of education. That should do it.

Ted · Post by **Ted** » 2002-12-31 09:32pm

State sponsored Orgies!

Sex halls where you can go in, strip off and get laid!

Free of charge too!

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-12-31 09:34pm

Says who?

You ARE the government, and the gov controls the education policy so if the fucktards say no, you kick them out.

And then you get arrested as an enemy of the Constitution. There are some things even a Congressional majority cannot bring.

I'm thinking of a religious studies class where students will learn about the basics of various religions and why they're all full of hooey.

Enjoy your new cell.

They already do. Any geology, physics, astronomy, or biology textbook already states in no uncertain terms that the Bible is false. Why do you think the fundies want them all censored and mutilated?

You cannot say 'Islam is false. Christianity is false'. You may present the facts and allow people to make their own choices, but that is it.

Then the bible belt is acting unconstitutionally, by only teaching creation, they are forcing government religious bullshit down the kids throats.

They are not only teaching creation, that's merely the private schools, although, yes, were I in charge any form of supernatural teaching would be outlawed in public school, even if I believed in it.

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2002-12-31 09:34pm

Ted wrote:Then the bible belt is acting unconstitutionally, by only teaching creation, they are forcing government religious bullshit down the kids throats.

I never said they weren't. And no state is teaching only Creation--I don't think at this point they can even teach "intelligent design" as an alternative to evolution. Every time it's been challenged in federal court, Creationism has been smacked down.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-12-31 09:35pm

I would leave the UN, dispand the congress and declare myselft Emperor. All represive sex laws will be gotten ride of. Fundies will be shone for the fools they are. The justice system will be tweaked a bit, public flogging. The millitary forces will suport themselves more by selling out their services to other countries. Finaly promote genetic enginering and increase the level of education. That should do it.

You will be immediatly arrested by the CIA as an enemy of the Constitution, your party would be disbanded and you would be put on trial for treason.

aerius · Post by **aerius** » 2002-12-31 09:35pm

RedImperator wrote:Violation of the First Amendment. And before you say, "I'm in charge, I'll amend the Constitution", you need 3/4 of the states to ratify a constitutional amendment, and the scenario doesn't give you that. Teaching children their religion is a load of crap is the creation and imposition of an official governement religious policy. The only thing you can do is have a thorough science program and give the children the tools to form their own conclusion.

As this is whole thing's just a thought exercise, let's forget about the little details and technicalities and focus on ideas. The scenario doesn't say that the states won't support me either, or that I can't make sweeping constitutional changes. I'm assuming that I can for the purposes of this thread so I have more room to work with. If I were to assume a realistic government not much would get done even with a majority in all government levels.

Ted · Post by **Ted** » 2002-12-31 09:36pm

HemlockGrey wrote:
Says who?

You ARE the government, and the gov controls the education policy so if the fucktards say no, you kick them out.
And then you get arrested as an enemy of the Constitution. There are some things even a Congressional majority cannot bring.

Then how come the fucking bible belt states rulers aren't in jail for violation of the constitution?

God Emperor · Post by **God Emperor** » 2002-12-31 09:38pm

HemlockGrey wrote:
I would leave the UN, dispand the congress and declare myselft Emperor. All represive sex laws will be gotten ride of. Fundies will be shone for the fools they are. The justice system will be tweaked a bit, public flogging. The millitary forces will suport themselves more by selling out their services to other countries. Finaly promote genetic enginering and increase the level of education. That should do it.
You will be immediatly arrested by the CIA as an enemy of the Constitution, your party would be disbanded and you would be put on trial for treason.

Wow, now I know what not to do. Drop every thing but the last part and sex laws.

Tatterdemalion · Post by **Tatterdemalion** » 2002-12-31 09:50pm

Use the USA's nukes to eliminate 9/10ths of the worlds population, solving overpopulation and world hunger. Hooray!

Ted · Post by **Ted** » 2002-12-31 09:52pm

And watch as the other 10% die through the fall-out and nuclear winter.

God Emperor · Post by **God Emperor** » 2002-12-31 09:55pm

You killed us all, your worst than me. Good job.

russellb6666 · Post by **russellb6666** » 2002-12-31 11:14pm

Tatterdemalion wrote:Use the USA's nukes to eliminate 9/10ths of the worlds population, solving overpopulation and world hunger. Hooray!

ass-hat

j/k