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Enforcer Talen wrote:admire the brilliance - http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/5020/5020_01.asp
W00T! Yet another reason from Jack Chick to convert to the liberal Sufi-mystic branch of Islam. *snickers*
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Darth Wong wrote:When I saw my first Chick tract, I thought it was somebody trying to poke fun at fundies. Seriously.

I almost couldn't believe it when I realized he was serious.
Just out of curiosity, how old were you when you first saw one of those things?

My mother and grandparents were Baptists, and they hauled me to church every Sunday all through my childhood. My Dad was a lapsed Catholic, but since my parents were divorced when I was 5 he wasn't the influence that my mother (who got custody) was. I was indoctrinated.

Well, you know how indoctrination works. When you are a wee, impressionable child, and the people you live with (grandparents lived next door), respect, look up to, and trust are all telling you something, you grow up believing it. I believed it. Not in a fanatical way, but in an "of course" kind of way.

Then when I got old enough to start thinking for myself (starting around junior high), I began to experience what you might call a crisis of faith. You see, I actually took one bit of my Grandmother's advice and read the Bible regularly. Very soon I began to notice inconsistencies, moral outrages, and contradictions of scientific fact, and so on. When I was in high school, I got my hands on a copy of Thomas Paine's "The Age of Reason", and that was the end of belief for me.

Anyway, the reason I ask is that I read my first Chick tract when I was about six or seven. I'm embarrassed to say that I believed it. In my own defense, I was very young and heavily indoctrinated. The ability to think critically and logically was not yet fully developed. These days, I laugh out loud at how truly ludicrous those things are.

I'm just wondering at what age a kid can read that sort of thing and not be gullible enough to buy any of it.
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Perinquus wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:When I saw my first Chick tract, I thought it was somebody trying to poke fun at fundies. Seriously.

I almost couldn't believe it when I realized he was serious.
Just out of curiosity, how old were you when you first saw one of those things?

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Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:
Perinquus wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:When I saw my first Chick tract, I thought it was somebody trying to poke fun at fundies. Seriously.

I almost couldn't believe it when I realized he was serious.
Just out of curiosity, how old were you when you first saw one of those things?

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Perinquus wrote:When I was in high school, I got my hands on a copy of Thomas Paine's "The Age of Reason", and that was the end of belief for me.
Have you read his other religous pamphlets?
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Perinquus wrote:I'm embarrassed to say that I believed it. In my own defense, I was very young and heavily indoctrinated. The ability to think critically and logically was not yet fully developed. These days, I laugh out loud at how truly ludicrous those things are.
Hell, we all believed ridicilous things when we were young and stupid. I bet a lot of people on this board once believed in Santa Claus too. What you believe in as a child is not nearly as important as what you believe in as an adult.
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Tosho wrote:
Perinquus wrote:When I was in high school, I got my hands on a copy of Thomas Paine's "The Age of Reason", and that was the end of belief for me.
Have you read his other religous pamphlets?
I've read some of the ones that are accessible online. Once my belief in Christianity started to fade, I turned, like Paine, to Deism as an alternative. But eventually, even that fell away, and these days I am an atheist. I suspect much of the reason that Paine and Thos. Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, Geo. Washington and other luminaries of that era were Deists rather than agnostics or atheists is taht they lived before Darwin and before other scientific advancements that revealed much of what we know about the origins of life on earth. Not knowing how life arose and evolved, they sort of automatically believed there was still a creator at the bottom of it. If they had all the information available to us today, it wouldn't surprise me if they all became atheists. I think this is why Desim is not as popular as it was in the 18th century enlightenment - the same skepticism that led men to become Deists then, when combined with all the scientific knowledge amassed over the last two centuries, leads them to become atheists today.

By the way, another great one to read is Robert G. Ingersoll.
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I didn't even know Chick existed until I came here. That's what you get for growing up in a non-fundie Christian family.

Speaking of Chick, I wonder what he's going to attack in his next pamphlet.
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Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:Speaking of Chick, I wonder what he's going to attack in his next pamphlet.
Bhuddists?
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It's like a bad traffic accident: you know it's gonna be ugly, but somehow you just can't help looking. One of these days, I'll remember not to click those links.

As far as what's next out of the Pentehostile bastard, I don't think he's insulted left-handed Zoroastrians yet.
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Darth Servo wrote:
Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:Speaking of Chick, I wonder what he's going to attack in his next pamphlet.
Bhuddists?
He's already done them. Personally, I want to see him try to tackle Cthulhu.
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suggest it to him - the unholy influence of the demon possessed lovecraft.

he thinks that already of harry potter. lovecraft will have him screaming.
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I have found your site most helpful, and have it bookmarked so I can check it on a regular basis. It is most informative on the assorted religious groups, and I have noticed you even talk about current culture, such as Hary Potter and Dungeons and Dragons. You have been most helpful in teaching about the devil's influence. But there are a group in my area who are involved in a more obscene book, by H.P. Lovecraft. It talks about demons and ancient spirits, and ignores Christ entirely. I would enjoy reading your views on this some point in the future.

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OMG... too funny! :D

I can't wait to see what comes of THAT!
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^_^ neither can I. . .
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Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:Speaking of Chick, I wonder what he's going to attack in his next pamphlet.
Stardestroyer.net.

It'll be about how some fundie gets an account, starts posting about God, get's flamed, doesn't flame back, all the hethens (us) ask why he is not flaming them back, he explains how he follows Jesus, everyone on the board accepts Christ into their hearts, end of story. Standard Chick garbage.
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cant you imagine the well groomed christo who talks to sd.net, and the grotesque gamers who reply in incomplete sentences and random swears?

well, the swears part is true, lol. . .
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Oh I would love to see him handle Cthulhu :twisted:
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I just read some of his other tracts and they just made me writhe in agony. He assumes people reject the Bible out of ignorance. But it's ignorance that inspires his artistic hand.

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what I love about the Good Samaritan story is that only the true Christian would help Omar.

Situation: you, a non-psycho fundy, go into a corner shop and find the owner beaten and bloody on the floor. Who doesn't take him to the hospital? Hands up, who?
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Enforcer Talen wrote:cant you imagine the well groomed christo who talks to sd.net, and the grotesque gamers who reply in incomplete sentences and random swears?

well, the swears part is true, lol. . .
We incomplete sentances speak?

Fuck shit arse cunt...

I think thats about right :D
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NecronLord wrote:
Enforcer Talen wrote:cant you imagine the well groomed christo who talks to sd.net, and the grotesque gamers who reply in incomplete sentences and random swears?

well, the swears part is true, lol. . .
We incomplete sentances speak?

Fuck shit arse cunt...

I think thats about right :D
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The sad thing is that this Chick tract is one of Chick's least inane pamphlets....
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Enforcer Talen wrote:I have found your site most helpful, and have it bookmarked so I can check it on a regular basis. It is most informative on the assorted religious groups, and I have noticed you even talk about current culture, such as Hary Potter and Dungeons and Dragons. You have been most helpful in teaching about the devil's influence. But there are a group in my area who are involved in a more obscene book, by H.P. Lovecraft. It talks about demons and ancient spirits, and ignores Christ entirely. I would enjoy reading your views on this some point in the future.

Love your site,
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lmao, their reply:

I think your evaluation of the Lovecraft material is right on. Christians have no business getting involved with this or Harry Potter. They are both dealing with evil spirits which the Bible forbids for the Christian.
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ROFLMAO!

We should also bring up Piers Anthony's Incarnations of Immortality series. If you haven't read it, do so! It's a great laugh, whether or not you're religious (I read it the first time before I'd ever attended church, and just finished the series again this summer...still funny).
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