Perhaps they'll be quoting him on his "official canon" bullshit soon, too. That'd really be somethingStas Bush wrote:I love that debate.
A: "Show canon evidence that the Death Star destroyed planet without the energy necessary!!!"
B: "Well, look at this DArkStar PAGE!!! It's frigen good explanation!!!"
A: "I said CANON evidence, idiot".
Absolute proof that Sarli is an ignorant moron
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And no one pointed them to Ossus' and/or Wong's demolition of that "argument". Won't anyone explain to these idiots that "your theory doesn't explain everything" does NOT lead to "chain reaction".Stas Bush wrote:I love that debate.
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I don't even want to go into the discussion of Dark Star's idiotic argument. People just need to understand that Dark Star isn't canon. Period.
Although, this might be hard - I mean, Dark Star thinks he's qualified enough to lecture LFL employees and Trek Continuity editors on Canon, so he must be right... isn't that so?
Although, this might be hard - I mean, Dark Star thinks he's qualified enough to lecture LFL employees and Trek Continuity editors on Canon, so he must be right... isn't that so?
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Once more, incontrovertible evidence that they're morons. Darkstar's writing is intelligent-sounding, so people who are incapable of distilling his long-winded bullshit down into a few propositions take him seriously.General Schatten wrote:Oh My Fucking God! They're actually using Scooter as an example of why the Deathstar causes a chain-reaction in the argument.
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Han Solo at Star's End also specifically includes scalable hand blaster firepower.Connor MacLeod wrote:
We know the DS superlaser was scalable, and that was confirmed by the EU. We know hand blasters have variable yields/settings (WEG's Star Wars sourcebook and the Star Wars Technical Journal) There were also the "splinter shot" settings (which were adjustable) in the NJO. And I believe Darksaber makes mention of weapons settings at "maximum". So whoever said that is lying.
And even if it weren't true, game mechanics/stats aren't considered canon (Chee made that poitn explicitly clear, as I recall.)
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Two gems from their new champion of retardation.
As for understanding logic or physics... I've a college degree, with a minor in philosophy, so I have a pretty good grasp of logic thankyaverramuch.
Need a golfclap emote for this kind of debating. Also honourable mention for him saying your visual evidence means nothing!Except the novelizations aren't canon
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Thankfully, Vympel has brought their moronic circlejerk down with a clear canon response.
We don't need idiots who can't comprehend that "canon" isn't a result of Saxton conspiracy.
We don't need idiots who can't comprehend that "canon" isn't a result of Saxton conspiracy.
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Does he give his name, alma mater, program, and year of graduation for verification purposes?Meest wrote:Two gems from their new champion of retardation.
As for understanding logic or physics... I've a college degree, with a minor in philosophy, so I have a pretty good grasp of logic thankyaverramuch.Need a golfclap emote for this kind of debating. Also honourable mention for him saying your visual evidence means nothing!Except the novelizations aren't canon
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The problem is, demanding he prove his credentials would no doubt be construed as a "personal attack" or "aggressive post" and the questioner would be banned or the thread locked (or both!).Darth Wong wrote: Does he give his name, alma mater, program, and year of graduation for verification purposes?
The WotC site isn't as bad as TFN or EnWorld, but they have their share of ignorant teenagers and other wankers who can't tell fact from opinion and run crying to the mods when called out. Last July, I had a dust-up with a few LOTR nerds (one of whom claimed that the idea of dwarfs being short was invented by Tolkien!). The combination of so much stupidity and so many outright lies would make Scooter pop a load.
Sarli is in a class of his own when it comes to dishonest cretinism, though.
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Wow, it's just like debating Republitards. 100% opinion, 0% fact.
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Who cares? For "Mysterious Unknown Chain Reaction" proponents, it benefits them not at all- because they're all Darkstar acolytes who reject the EU at first instance.Darwin wrote: right after quoting the Dark Empire Sourcebook as the only canon source mentioning a specific lack of Alderaan's shields. CURSE YOU WEST END GAMES!
For those who acknowledge the EU, I've already quoted a host of sources (OT:ICS, multiple Databank entries , OT:ITW) that debunk the argument that the Death Star didn't actually generate the power to destroy the planet, explicitly. The best one being, of course, the OT:ITW (ie. hundreds of supergiant stars).
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I'm bored of it, myself. I don't see what else is going to be accomplished there, unless there's some new outrageous claims made that are easily debunked.General Schatten wrote:So are we ready to get back on the offensive?
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The Dark Empire thing was made before Special Editions and thus Special Edition takes precedence, thus meaning Alderaan had a shield.Vympel wrote:I'm bored of it, myself. I don't see what else is going to be accomplished there, unless there's some new outrageous claims made that are easily debunked.General Schatten wrote:So are we ready to get back on the offensive?
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The shield effect was arguably easier to see in the original theatrical cut. But really, as I said, this is a here nor there argument. No one who accepts the canonicity of the EU can get any traction for inane Death-Star-Chain-Reaction Bullshit Arguments. Ignore the shield issue, it's a waste of time.General Schatten wrote:
The Dark Empire thing was made before Special Editions and thus Special Edition takes precedence, thus meaning Alderaan had a shield.
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Simple refutation.
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I thought he abandoned the thread, but Sarli actually responded.
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This must be the dumbest thing ever:
EDIT: Well, the entire post takes the prize: +http://boards1.wizards.com/newreply.php ... p=11392901
Sarli wrote:Jedi Counseling 94 states that a VSD will burn about 100 tons of fuel in a single jump to hyperspace, an hour of combat, a day of routine space operations, etc. Furthermore, it states that the VSD would be capable of 736 jumps, 736 hours of combat, 736 days of routine flight, etc. before exhausting its fuel.
EDIT: Well, the entire post takes the prize: +http://boards1.wizards.com/newreply.php ... p=11392901