CNN: Retarded panel discussion on atheist discrimination

[darthbob88]

Ghetto Edit: If you want me to stop talking about it, stop asking me about it. Simple concept, yes?

[Vyraeth]

Ghetto Edit: If you want me to stop talking about it, stop asking me about it. Simple concept, yes?

Do you understand what a concession means? You're acting half-assed. You're saying you concede and yet as Pinto pointed out, you keep interjecting your opinions and thoughts about the issue every turn of the way.

It seems like you're only saying you concede because that's what you think that what's being demanded of you, and not because you really want to.

And also, I'm pretty sure that us asking you about your points, isn't valid grounds for you to keep spewing your personal bullshit.

A moderator can easily clarify, but on this forum, I'm pretty sure that if you make a statement, you better back it up.

[darthbob88]

Do you understand what a concession means? You're acting half-assed. You're saying you concede and yet as Pinto pointed out, you keep interjecting your opinions and thoughts about the issue every turn of the way.

It means that I have admitted that I was in the wrong, about that particular point, if not others, and that it is no longer an issue.

It seems like you're only saying you concede because that's what you think that what's being demanded of you, and not because you really want to.

Ye think? If I could, I would keep that argument going. However, it is not logical and poor debating to back up an argument with personal opinion, and so I had to concede that I was in the wrong.

And also, I'm pretty sure that us asking you about your points, isn't valid grounds for you to keep spewing your personal bullshit.

No, but it is grounds to answer whatever question they asked, and if it's about my personal bullshit, then I must make note of my personal bullshit.

A moderator can easily clarify, but on this forum, I'm pretty sure that if you make a statement, you better back it up.

No argument, which is why I decided to concede the point when I realized I was in the wrong and my point was logically indefensible. I have every intention of ceasing this idiotic behavior on my part, once this embarrassment has been resolved.

[Vyraeth]

It means that I have admitted that I was in the wrong, about that particular point, if not others, and that it is no longer an issue.

Ye think? If I could, I would keep that argument going. However, it is not logical and poor debating to back up an argument with personal opinion, and so I had to concede that I was in the wrong.

Then do you also realize that the reason people are angry with you is because you continue to presume that you're right, even though you concede you have no evidence?

Are you so stubborn in what you believe that you can't accept reason? What's the point of discussing anything if it won't affect your "personal opinion"?

[SirNitram]

What right does the majority have to keep a change made expressly for the McCarthy Era Fearmongering crowd? What harm, in any sense, comes from the addition the Knights Of Columbus used fear and hate to add, being excised?

You obviously think you're being reasonable, but you're being a fucking retard.

To the best of my knowledge, no harm would come. No rights would be trampled, no liberties denied, and the worst possibility I can think of is a riot in protest.

I'm trying to be reasonable, yes, but it's getting to be a bit difficult since I've conceded and dropped this point two or three times already, and I've already tried to say that changing the pledge in any way was only an example for my argument. I could easily be retarded here, but you seem to refuse to hear me concede the point.

You've not fucking conceded, you dishonest shit. You don't want to talk about it because you don't like the fact you've got zero rebuttal, but you keep treating your conclusions as right.

[darthbob88]

Ghetto Edit: And since the only one who continues to bring that bullshit up is yours truly, I think this embarrassment is resolved enough for me to leave this forum. And after only 3 pages too.

[Ritterin Sophia]

Ghetto Edit: And since the only one who continues to bring that bullshit up is yours truly, I think this embarrassment is resolved enough for me to leave this forum. And after only 3 pages too.

What's this, what the fuck is your problem, all they're asking for you to do is concede that you are wrong. You keepsaying that you're trying, but you don't understand that saying you still feel uneasy is contradictory to your claim to be conceding. As someone has already said, you seem to want to concede because everyone wants you to, not because you can't make your argument. I might be misintepreting this, but now you're leaving the forum because you fucked up?

[Master of Ossus]

Oh, god, I just watched that stupid panel discussion. What I find most disturbing is the idea that those two obnoxious bitches would claim that atheists are "on the attack" against Christian morals, and that they're imposing their beliefs on Christians, while simultaneously invoking the "Christian country" thing to explain why it's okay for them to impose their beliefs on others.

[Teebs]

I have to admit, I'm having trouble understanding how they're making a panel discussion on atheism without actually having even a weak atheist on the panel... Ok, I get it's right wing bias, but it's just so bloody blatant!

[mr friendly guy]

I used the pledge as an example of one individual exerting rights over the majority;

So in your dream world its a "right" to have the government promote their religion? I guess the First Amendment just doesn't exist.

I don't really care if anybody does change it or doesn't change it.

Then why do you keep on bringing it up as something you dislike?

And please, look to the top of this thread. I conceded and do concede that this point of mine is based upon no fact, no observation, save my own ignorance, and that I was incorrect in holding it to so true.

Hint to the dumbass - actions speak louder than words.

[R. U. Serious]

darthbob88 has encompassed the fundie way of "thought" (notice the quotes). You do not let evidence, logic or reason mess with your opinions or beliefs. It fits so beautifully with the cliched truthiness that Colbert has been trumpeting.

That's where the truth lies, right down here in the gut. Do you know you have more nerve endings in your gut than you have in your head? You can look it up. Now, I know some of you are going to say, "I did look it up, and that's not true." That's 'cause you looked it up in a book. Next time, look it up in your gut. I did. My gut tells me that's how our nervous system works.

So while on a "technical" level he can see that he can't back up any of what he is saying, that won't make him challenge his own position at all. It doesn't matter what's happening on that techincal level, as the gut is well protected from those dangerous influences.

I have to admit, though, the self-depreciating angle is new, never seen that before - would have fit better into a satire. And I hate it when reality trumps satire. It makes baby jesus cry.

[LeftWingExtremist]

I say we throw Dawkins at them. He could demolish all of them alone.

[mr friendly guy]

I say we throw Dawkins at them. He could demolish all of them alone.

A lot of people on this board would most probably demolish them on their own.

[Ritterin Sophia]

I say we throw Dawkins at them. He could demolish all of them alone.

A lot of people on this board would most probably demolish them on their own.

I could do it! Three Words, Treaty of Tripoli.

[Gandalf]

I say we throw Dawkins at them. He could demolish all of them alone.

A lot of people on this board would most probably demolish them on their own.

I could do it! Three Words, Treaty of Tripoli.

You'd still get some retarded responses to that, like saying that the US just said that to placate the Musselmen.

[apocolypse]

I have to admit, I'm having trouble understanding how they're making a panel discussion on atheism without actually having even a weak atheist on the panel... Ok, I get it's right wing bias, but it's just so bloody blatant!

Pretty much my thoughts too. Isn't having a panel on atheists without any atheists a bit like having a panel on Christians and not having any Christians? I'd like to see how well something like that would have gone over.

[Patrick Degan]

Oh, but there was an atheist of sorts on that show, you just couldn't see him. He was the invisible scarecrow the panelists were attacking.

[R. U. Serious]

I say we throw Dawkins at them. He could demolish all of them alone.

http://richarddawkins.net/event,123,CNN

Richard Dawkins will be the guest with Paula Zahn on Thursday, February 8th 2007 at 8pm EST on CNN.

Date: Thursday, February 08, 2007

Time: 08:00 PM

Location: CNN

[wautd]

I hope they invite a foam-in-the-mouth fundie as well. Should be a laugh

[Metatwaddle]

I say we throw Dawkins at them. He could demolish all of them alone.

A lot of people on this board would most probably demolish them on their own.

Yes, but Dawkins won't get fined by the FCC for calling people stupid hatfuckers.

I hope this Dawkins thing gets on Youtube afterwards, because I don't think I'll be able to watch it tonight, but I really want to see him rip her apart.

[Faqa]

I could not get through the second YouTube link without shutting it off in disgust....

I am a citizen of two countries. One is an oppressive fundamentalist regime that tramples on freedom in order to trumpet religion.

The other is the State Of Israel.

[Zadius]

More proof that Debbie Schlussel is a raving lunatic. From her blog:

When Atheists a/k/a Future Muslims Attack

By Debbie Schlussel

Something happened over the last 24 hours. Beginning last night, my inbox became populated with vile hate-mail from atheists. No skin off my back.

But it is entertaining and amusing. It's hard to believe their letters because they were all attacking me for my appearance on CNN's "Paula Zahn Now," a week ago, but coincidentally each letter claims the sender just watched me on CNN. First of all, the video of that segment appears nowhere on the net. Believe me, if it did, I'd link to it. Secondly, since I appeared on the show a week ago, that all these "seminar" e-mailers are now all e-mailing me the same basic hate message, populated with a diversity of obscene insults, it's easier to believe that they were easily brainwashed into sending me the missives as a result of an atheist blog that just put up an attack on me, yesterday.

I'm surprised these atheists would be so obedient to a higher power that told them to e-mail me since, after all, the one thing they're supposed to have in common is a lack of belief in a higher power. Well, no-one ever said atheists are consistent or immune from hypocrisy.

I don't mind receiving the atheist hate mail, since I know that in a few years, many of these same people will either be Muslim extremists (redundant) or helping the country fall further in its fight against the creep of Islamic imposition on America . . . or both.

Look at famous atheists and what happened to them. Adam Gadahn a/k/a Azzam Al-Amriki--now a top Al-Qaeda video "personality"--was raised by his hippie Jewish father and equally bizarre gentile mother as an atheist. And look how he turned out. Ditto for hippie-spawn John Walker Lindh.

Those two people are enemies of America, and many of those who think like them are of equally weak mind. If you don't believe in anything, you'll easily fall for virtual nothings. That's why Europe is so quickly turning Islamist--because atheism dominates and Christianity is rapidly dying there. Over there, the number one cause for which atheists are suddenly finding "god" is Islam.

Over here, as I pointed out on CNN, atheists are on the attack against religion and G-d only when Christians and Jews are involved, not when Muslims and Islam are. A Christian prayer at a public school graduation or football game? Send in the ACLU lawyers. A Muslim prayer at a high school football game in Dearbornistan? Suddenly, when the "Religion of Peace" is involved, atheists boast extreme tolerance and display ultimate deference. No lawsuits. Ever. And the Muslim prayers continue.

So to you hate-filled atheists a/k/a future Muslim extremists (redundant), your e-mails have no effect on me. Ditto for your creative obscenities which don't impress upon me the civility of the atheo-fascisti set.

But thanks for the material for this post. And nice try, telling me you saw me on CNN, last night. That was a week ago. Last night, was when Sean Hannity deliberately plagiarized my work on Islamic imam Husham Al-Husainy on FOX News. Different network, different show, my name clearly not mentioned (just my work ripped off by Hannity; Thanks, Sean).

Why are bigots like Debbie Schlussel or Ann Coulter even allowed on TV?

[Dooey Jo]

Did she just say atheists are bound to become muslim extremists, and there being many muslims in Europe is because there are many atheists here turning muslim, and not because many muslims immigrate here? That is actually the stupidest thing I've read all week, and I've debated JWs on creationism and logic this week. There has clearly been some mix-up. This woman is supposed to be in a reality show or lead some music award program thing.

[Vendetta]

Because the lowlife scumfucks that are the Real America* think that they are right on the money, and the controversy and annoyance they guarantee from the thinking parts of the populations means ratings ratings ratings.

*Constitution be damned

[apocolypse]

Dear fucking god....I would take time to go through this post throughly and pick apart the logic, but I'm not sure I have that much time and/or desire. Seriously, when the fuck did atheism somehow now equal being a militant Muslim? If that's not one of the oddest leaps in logic I've seen in some time, then I don't know what is. And why the fuck must it be a "higher power that told them to e-mail me", and not just a bunch of people that got pissed? FFS, Southern Baptists boycotted Disney just because they extended same sex benefits to their employees, but I guess people becoming indignant over a something is only okay as long as you're a Christian.