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R. U. Serious wrote:
LeftWingExtremist wrote:I say we throw Dawkins at them. He could demolish all of them alone.
http://richarddawkins.net/event,123,CNN
Richard Dawkins will be the guest with Paula Zahn on Thursday, February 8th 2007 at 8pm EST on CNN.

Date: Thursday, February 08, 2007

Time: 08:00 PM

Location: CNN
Yeah pity I live in Australia and don't have cable.
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Zadius wrote:Why are bigots like Debbie Schlussel or Ann Coulter even allowed on TV?
The same reason neo-nazis are allowed to spread their crap. In the US, people are so devoted to freedom of speech and so prone to accept slippery slope fallacies, that no one can be told "you can't say that" no matter how bigoted.

Besides, the majority of America is religious bigots and buy into that kind of bullshit all the time. According to them, bigotry is something only the other guy does and bigotry against the popular scapegoat doesn't count as bigotry.
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LeftWingExtremist wrote:
R. U. Serious wrote:
LeftWingExtremist wrote:I say we throw Dawkins at them. He could demolish all of them alone.
http://richarddawkins.net/event,123,CNN
Richard Dawkins will be the guest with Paula Zahn on Thursday, February 8th 2007 at 8pm EST on CNN.

Date: Thursday, February 08, 2007

Time: 08:00 PM

Location: CNN
Yeah pity I live in Australia and don't have cable.
Someone record it and post it on youtube.
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Anybody see Debbie Schlussel's blog response?
Debbie Schlussel: When Atheists a/k/a Future Muslims Attack

By Debbie Schlussel

Something happened over the last 24 hours. Beginning last night, my inbox became populated with vile hate-mail from atheists. No skin off my back.

But it is entertaining and amusing. It's hard to believe their letters because they were all attacking me for my appearance on CNN's "Paula Zahn Now," a week ago, but coincidentally each letter claims the sender just watched me on CNN. First of all, the video of that segment appears nowhere on the net. Believe me, if it did, I'd link to it. Secondly, since I appeared on the show a week ago, that all these "seminar" e-mailers are now all e-mailing me the same basic hate message, populated with a diversity of obscene insults, it's easier to believe that they were easily brainwashed into sending me the missives as a result of an atheist blog that just put up an attack on me, yesterday.

I'm surprised these atheists would be so obedient to a higher power that told them to e-mail me since, after all, the one thing they're supposed to have in common is a lack of belief in a higher power. Well, no-one ever said atheists are consistent or immune from hypocrisy.

I don't mind receiving the atheist hate mail, since I know that in a few years, many of these same people will either be Muslim extremists (redundant) or helping the country fall further in its fight against the creep of Islamic imposition on America . . . or both.

Look at famous atheists and what happened to them. Adam Gadahn a/k/a Azzam Al-Amriki--now a top Al-Qaeda video "personality"--was raised by his hippie Jewish father and equally bizarre gentile mother as an atheist. And look how he turned out. Ditto for hippie-spawn John Walker Lindh.

Those two people are enemies of America, and many of those who think like them are of equally weak mind. If you don't believe in anything, you'll easily fall for virtual nothings. That's why Europe is so quickly turning Islamist--because atheism dominates and Christianity is rapidly dying there. Over there, the number one cause for which atheists are suddenly finding "god" is Islam.

Over here, as I pointed out on CNN, atheists are on the attack against religion and G-d only when Christians and Jews are involved, not when Muslims and Islam are. A Christian prayer at a public school graduation or football game? Send in the ACLU lawyers. A Muslim prayer at a high school football game in Dearbornistan? Suddenly, when the "Religion of Peace" is involved, atheists boast extreme tolerance and display ultimate deference. No lawsuits. Ever. And the Muslim prayers continue.

So to you hate-filled atheists a/k/a future Muslim extremists (redundant), your e-mails have no effect on me. Ditto for your creative obscenities which don't impress upon me the civility of the atheo-fascisti set.

But thanks for the material for this post. And nice try, telling me you saw me on CNN, last night. That was a week ago. Last night, was when Sean Hannity deliberately plagiarized my work on Islamic imam Husham Al-Husainy on FOX News. Different network, different show, my name clearly not mentioned (just my work ripped off by Hannity; Thanks, Sean).

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Hobot wrote:Anybody see Debbie Schlussel's blog response?
Check page 4 of this thread. :wink:
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Atheists: "We don't want to be oppressed by some gay-hating undead jew worshippers."

Idiot Woman: "Then Why do you love islam so much???"

Atheists: "We don't? Lol."

Idiot Woman: "But you're the enemy! Surely you love islam!"

Atheists: "Yeah man, atheism is a by-word for islam, i.e. submission to the God of mohammed. That really makes sense."

What a fucking idiot. Seriously, that's so fucking retarded, it makes me wonder how and why these people are so popular.
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Rye wrote:Atheists: "We don't want to be oppressed by some gay-hating undead jew worshippers."

Idiot Woman: "Then Why do you love islam so much???"

Atheists: "We don't? Lol."

Idiot Woman: "But you're the enemy! Surely you love islam!"

Atheists: "Yeah man, atheism is a by-word for islam, i.e. submission to the God of mohammed. That really makes sense."

What a fucking idiot. Seriously, that's so fucking retarded, it makes me wonder how and why these people are so popular.
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Dooey Jo wrote:Did she just say atheists are bound to become muslim extremists, and there being many muslims in Europe is because there are many atheists here turning muslim, and not because many muslims immigrate here? That is actually the stupidest thing I've read all week, and I've debated JWs on creationism and logic this week. There has clearly been some mix-up. This woman is supposed to be in a reality show or lead some music award program thing.
She says that atheists will either turn into Muslim extremists (WTF?) or we'll help fundamentalist Islam spread into the US, because atheists are actually just anti-Christianity.

So, yeah, she needs to get her head examined. To see if there are any brains in it.
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Sorry I don't have a link, but Dawkins posted recently on richarddawkins.net that his interview had been changed from 20 minutes to 4 minutes, and will be followed by a panel discussion consisting of two theists and Christopher Hitchens. Because, you know, it just wouldn't be fair to bring Dawkins in on the panel and have even numbers of theists and atheists.
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So they nerfed Dawkin's time? I wonder if the excessive focus on Anna Nicole did that. :cry:
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His appearance on CNN will be tomorrow, according to his website.
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Darth Wong wrote:
Rye wrote:Atheists: "We don't want to be oppressed by some gay-hating undead jew worshippers."

Idiot Woman: "Then Why do you love islam so much???"

Atheists: "We don't? Lol."

Idiot Woman: "But you're the enemy! Surely you love islam!"

Atheists: "Yeah man, atheism is a by-word for islam, i.e. submission to the God of mohammed. That really makes sense."

What a fucking idiot. Seriously, that's so fucking retarded, it makes me wonder how and why these people are so popular.
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Molyneux wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:
Rye wrote:Atheists: "We don't want to be oppressed by some gay-hating undead jew worshippers."

Idiot Woman: "Then Why do you love islam so much???"

Atheists: "We don't? Lol."

Idiot Woman: "But you're the enemy! Surely you love islam!"

Atheists: "Yeah man, atheism is a by-word for islam, i.e. submission to the God of mohammed. That really makes sense."

What a fucking idiot. Seriously, that's so fucking retarded, it makes me wonder how and why these people are so popular.
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That's only people who think he's doing the job correctly. There is likely a far larger number who believe what George the Dumber spouted who despise the man.
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Zadius wrote:
Hobot wrote:Anybody see Debbie Schlussel's blog response?
Check page 4 of this thread. :wink:
After reading all of darthbob's posts I think my eyes rolled so far back into my head that I missed your post :P
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apocolypse wrote:Dear fucking god....I would take time to go through this post throughly and pick apart the logic, but I'm not sure I have that much time and/or desire. Seriously, when the fuck did atheism somehow now equal being a militant Muslim? If that's not one of the oddest leaps in logic I've seen in some time, then I don't know what is. And why the fuck must it be a "higher power that told them to e-mail me", and not just a bunch of people that got pissed? FFS, Southern Baptists boycotted Disney just because they extended same sex benefits to their employees, but I guess people becoming indignant over a something is only okay as long as you're a Christian.
The same method of thought that sees intelligence in design would likely ascribe belief in a higher power because of a seeming lockstep response. No consideration is given to the independent thought of these individuals, they're all mindless drones in her eyes.

That and conflating atheism and gOdlessness with immorality. For their own part, Muslim extremists are also immoral so naturally, they go together like a horse and carriage. The same dynamics at play mentioned in the Minnesotan University study (even MENTIONED in the previous segment to the panel 'discussion') of this moral exclusion of atheists was so obviously at play.

Did you see the hate mail part?
Posted by: ConservativesLovePuns(descent) [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 7, 2007 03:02 PM

A simple search on Youtube for "Paula Zhan atheists" yielded this clip, Debbie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPHnXrU5JzU
So apparently we cannot trust you to put even the slightest bit of work into verifying the most arbitrary facts.
A SIMPLE SEARCH OF MY NAME DOES NOT YIELD THE VIDEO. MY NAME IS NOT IN THE KEY WORDS, SO BASICALLY YOU ARE SAYING I CANNOT BE TRUSTED TO FIND A VIDEO OF ME THAT IS NOT UNDER MY NAME. THANKS FOR CONFIRMING THAT MANY ATHEISTS ARE ALSO IDIOTS, IN ADDITION TO BEING FUTURE MUSLIM EXTREMISTS. THE ONLY REASON THESE PEOPLE ARE E-MAILING IS BECAUSE A PROMINENT ATHEIST WEBSITE TOLD THEM TO. THE VIDEO WAS POSTED ON 2/4/07. THAT I'M JUST GETTING THE E-MAILS LAST NIGHT AND TODAY AFTER AN ATHEIST BLOG POSTED ABOUT IT, TELLS ME THE REAL STORY. ESPECIALLY SINCE EVERY SINGLE E-MAIL SAYS THE SAME THING. MONKEYS DOING WHAT THEY'RE TOLD AND PARROTS PARROTING WHAT THEY'RE ASKED TO REPEAT DOESN'T MAKE THEM SMART OR TRUTHFUL.
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Okay the Catholic boy weighing in.

I don't think an Atheist should be made to keep it secret. I mean come on at the least hear is a GOLDEN chance to share the love of Christ with someone.

By this I don't been being a Used Car sellsman for the Lord. Or an Asshole for Christ.

Let there kids play with the Atheists kid. Invite them over for dinner, hang out with them. When hard times come help them.

Or in short be Christ to them, an witness by example!

Oh wait... yea. That actually means practicing what you believe and work. Not to mention giving up ones favoirte little sins and we know how that'll go over...
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Zadius wrote:You'd think this was on Fox News, but no... it's fucking CNN. They had a chance to address a serious issue here, that of discrimination against atheists, but they fucked it up with their fucking retarded panel discussion. Two of the panel members started going off on why atheists bring in on themselves for "attacking Christians". Where was the atheist representative in the discussion? Nowhere. Just one Christian guy who was semi-sympathetic. Just watch the clips, the discussion starts in part 2.

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiyJzWy3CDQ

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPHnXrU5JzU
The black woman in those videos is my journalism professor at uni, by the way.:x If any of you have a message you want me to pass on to her, post it here.

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apocolypse wrote:Dear fucking god....I would take time to go through this post throughly and pick apart the logic, but I'm not sure I have that much time and/or desire. Seriously, when the fuck did atheism somehow now equal being a militant Muslim? If that's not one of the oddest leaps in logic I've seen in some time, then I don't know what is. And why the fuck must it be a "higher power that told them to e-mail me", and not just a bunch of people that got pissed? FFS, Southern Baptists boycotted Disney just because they extended same sex benefits to their employees, but I guess people becoming indignant over a something is only okay as long as you're a Christian.
You have to understand that when Christians sue, protest or boycott, they are taking a Moral Stand, but when non-Christians do the same thing, they are being opressive and attacking Christianity.
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fgalkin wrote: The black woman in those videos is my journalism professor at uni, by the way.:x If any of you have a message you want me to pass on to her, post it here.
Wow, I feel for you. Ask her why she frequently refers to Martin Luther and his dream that people will be judged by the content of their character, and then uses fears, prejudices and intimidation to deal with a whole group of people she clearly has little or no experience with, and wants to deny them the same rights that other people in the US enjoy.
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Dooey Jo wrote:Did she just say atheists are bound to become muslim extremists, and there being many muslims in Europe is because there are many atheists here turning muslim, and not because many muslims immigrate here? That is actually the stupidest thing I've read all week, and I've debated JWs on creationism and logic this week. There has clearly been some mix-up. This woman is supposed to be in a reality show or lead some music award program thing.
She says that atheists will either turn into Muslim extremists (WTF?) or we'll help fundamentalist Islam spread into the US, because atheists are actually just anti-Christianity.

So, yeah, she needs to get her head examined. To see if there are any brains in it.
Offcourse she has a brain. She is being able to perform basic functions after all. I'd think you're better off in looking for a tumor
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Debbie Schlussel wrote:THANKS FOR CONFIRMING THAT MANY ATHEISTS ARE ALSO IDIOTS, IN ADDITION TO BEING FUTURE MUSLIM EXTREMISTS.
Did she really type that? Did she really imply yet again that atheists are future muslim extremists? Where's the outcry on network news about her idiocy? Why was she invited on CNN in the first place?

You can't tell me that we're the only people on these boards, or that atheists are the only ones who realize her ridiculous leap of logic.

I have a feeling that this is a publicity stunt or that her blog's been hacked, because how the hell could someone make comments like this and retain any sense of credibility? Although admittedly, I'm not too familair with Debbie Schlussel beyond what I've read and saw on the CNN broadcast so far.

I can't even believe she has a juris doctor, do law schools have no standards? What the fuck.
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Send in a comment to CNN and tell them how ridiculous it was for them to allow this bitch to get on TV. Include a link to Debbie's psycho blog as well.
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Vyraeth wrote:I have a feeling that this is a publicity stunt or that her blog's been hacked, because how the hell could someone make comments like this and retain any sense of credibility? Although admittedly, I'm not too familair with Debbie Schlussel beyond what I've read and saw on the CNN broadcast so far.
It's not for nothing that she's called a second class Anne Coulter. The reason people like that not only survive, but thrive in the media landscape is because the people support her simply do so for "tribal" reasons, so it doesn't realy matter how ridiculous the things are that she says. As long as there is a constant base/network of people that will invite her, talk to her, ask her for opinion etc. she will stay "popular" and thus also have access to mainstream media outlets.
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SPC Brungardt wrote:Did you see the hate mail part?
No, thanks for pointing it out. I can't believe she actually typed a response in all caps. I thought only kids still did that shit. And I like the way that she argued a point that the original poster didn't even make. Although that appears to be a typical tactic of people in her mindset.
Flagg wrote:You have to understand that when Christians sue, protest or boycott, they are taking a Moral Stand, but when non-Christians do the same thing, they are being opressive and attacking Christianity.
Ah, my fault. I'd forgotten that atheists are all heathen godless immoral bastards. It's funny how atheists make up a much smaller segment of society, yet it's the Christians who are apparently always persecuted and under attack.
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