So would anyone here vote for me for President of the US?

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-01-02 06:02pm

My platform

Cut all funding to religious schools

Remove all forms of religion from the government

Legalize human cloning for medical purposes(ie organs)

Equal civil rights for EVERYONE( the govenment should protect everybody regardless of ethnicity, religion sexual orientation etc, abd no matter what you are, there will always be some jackass in the bible belt that hates you)

Get rid of all stupid laws

Make evolution, a long full year course, on just evolution a mandatory class in all public and private schools

End all envolvment in Isreal, Money saved goes to education

Increase pay for teachers, and give more money to the public school system

Legalize prostitution. I will leave Marajuana(sp) up to the people in the states

Give us back freedom of speech, and the rest of the bill of rights. I will have no fascists in my country

Decrease our dependence on petroleum

Anyone, so long as they can make the grades, can get into college(like the german system)

Tax the hell out of churches

All in all America will become the pluralistic country it was originally intended to be. where free thought is encouraged and everyone is well educated. Sure taxes will be raised but with the taxes on churches....

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-01-02 06:05pm

Just two caveats. The federal government should not have the power to decide what is taught in private schools unless it is fundemantally harmful. Being taught white supremacy is harmful; being taught a crackpot theory about creation is not.

Further, I take issue with 'taxing the hell out of churches'. Churchs should not be taxed any more than any other institution.

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2003-01-02 06:08pm

Evolution's too complicated to be taught in that much detail at high school level. Anyway, teaching biology as a proper science, and not just stamp collecting, requires a very basic knowledge and acceptance of evolution, so biology as it is taught now should do it. It's just the kids with lunatic paretns that have problems.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-01-02 06:09pm

You know what i mean. they should simply be taxed. the fact that they own massive amounts of property and take in huge amounts of money each year, simply means that they will be paying a lot of money.

I am simply sick of seeing people with NO knowledge of evolution. " If we all came from monkeys, then why are there still monkeys" drives me insane.

Next of Kin · Post by **Next of Kin** » 2003-01-02 06:09pm

Who will be your running mate? Names please.

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2003-01-02 06:15pm

Alyrium Denryle wrote: I am simply sick of seeing people with NO knowledge of evolution. " If we all came from monkeys, then why are there still monkeys" drives me insane.

You're sick of that? Tell me about it.

But I did allopatric/parapatric/sympatric speciation as part of A level biology.
Evolution covers the sciences of of biology; geology (which I wasn't taught at school); astrophsyics; genetics; biochemistry; embryology; phyogenetics; archaeology; anthropology.
It's a complex process, and can only be given to schoolkids in a 'lies to children' format. Knowledge of it shouldn't be compulsory, but refuting it without knowledge should be illegal.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-01-02 06:16pm

My running mate will be my friend Russel Davis, a jack-catholic, evolutionist. Future marine biologist, and truly disturbed individual. He learned to read by using his fathers(a surgeon) medical text-books. He is an insomniac that once stayed up for 72 hours, having audio and visual hallucinations. He also wrote a play detailing an argument between his cerebral cortex and his inner mamalian brain. Once took out a person 3 times his size by jumping on his back like a velocoraptor and going for the Jugular. That will be my VP

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-01-02 06:17pm

You know what i mean. they should simply be taxed. the fact that they own massive amounts of property and take in huge amounts of money each year, simply means that they will be paying a lot of money.

This is not always true. My church owns a very small lot and takes in just barely enough money to keep itself running. Taxing churches excessively will result in many churches like mine-and churches like mine make up the vast majority- shutting down. There's thusly a thin line between taxation and interference with freedom of religion.

A much better idea would be to tax the overarching organizations- that is, the Roman Catholic Church as an institution the Council of Mormons, the Presbyterian governing body etc. etc. instead of the individual churches.

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2003-01-02 06:18pm

Going from the jugular from behind?

Like a velociraptor? Is he that tiny?

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-01-02 06:18pm

I also assume that by 'churches' you include synagouges, mosques, and Wiccan gathering points.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-01-02 06:19pm

Of course the taxes will be proportonate to the size and wealth of the church, the RC church, and mormons will be paying lots of money, but the small local churches will have no more taxes than they can support

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-01-02 06:23pm

innerbrat wrote:Going from the jugular from behind?

Like a velociraptor? Is he that tiny?

He was in 8th grade at 4'5 and about 80 lbs

He arched his head around Jams's neck, chewed on his throut, when James fell over, Russell slamed Jamse's head into the concrete repeatedly. All that because james took russells stuffed cow

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2003-01-02 06:23pm

Sorry but I'm voting for Cthulthu

But where it not running for President I'd have issue with the following

Nationalized healthcare(modeled after the german system, it works better than canadas system)

Nationalized Heath Care in any-shape and form tradtonaly SUCKS, Also The reason Canadia's is in such trouble is the simple fact that the percentage of the Popluation that falls below the Poverty line is much greater than in Germany

Nationalized Heathcare while a good idea on the surface won't work in America with all the deadweights we have on the system
What do I mean? See the Prescription Drug Program being pushed for JUST Seniors on top of thier other Social Security Benfits? It CAN and WILL break SS because it is a multi-BILLION Doller Plus increase

They studied the Hell out of it in 93 and 94 and it was Determined that to pay for a Canidia or Germany like Heath-Care System would cost US Taxpayers between 3%-9% Across the Board Tax Rase, and thats from the sides SUPPORTING the idea, The Anti fokes say it will be closer to 15% while the supposdly Neutral Fokes say normaly 8-11%

Sorry but with this Ecnomeny such a huge tax increase would NOT help(Ever played Sim City? Go from a 2% Tax rate to a 10% rate and see what happens to your city, same idea, though much more complicated here)

The 2001 Numbers are Avaible form the IRS, 50% of the Populas Pays for over 94% of ALL Taxs! Toss in Corperation Taxs and what-not, thats NOT the case in Germany or Canadia, Half of thier popluas is NOT effectly Tax deadweights

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-01-02 06:24pm

HemlockGrey wrote:I also assume that by 'churches' you include synagouges, mosques, and Wiccan gathering points.

Yes, all religions, so long as they generate income and own property, as an organization.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-01-02 06:24pm

No I wont be voting for you. I will be stealing your campaign signs however.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-01-02 06:25pm

Mr Bean wrote:Sorry but I'm voting for Cthulthu

But where it not running for President I'd have issue with the following
Nationalized healthcare(modeled after the german system, it works better than canadas system)
Nationalized Heath Care in any-shape and form tradtonaly SUCKS, Also The reason Canadia's is in such trouble is the simple fact that the percentage of the Popluation that falls below the Poverty line is much greater than in Germany

Nationalized Heathcare while a good idea on the surface won't work in America with all the deadweights we have on the system
What do I mean? See the Prescription Drug Program being pushed for JUST Seniors on top of thier other Social Security Benfits? It CAN and WILL break SS because it is a multi-BILLION Doller Plus increase

They studied the Hell out of it in 93 and 94 and it was Determined that to pay for a Canidia or Germany like Heath-Care System would cost US Taxpayers between 3%-9% Across the Board Tax Rase, and thats from the sides SUPPORTING the idea, The Anti fokes say it will be closer to 15% while the supposdly Neutral Fokes say normaly 8-11%

Sorry but with this Ecnomeny such a huge tax increase would NOT help(Ever played Sim City? Go from a 2% Tax rate to a 10% rate and see what happens to your city, same idea, though much more complicated here)

The 2001 Numbers are Avaible form the IRS, 50% of the Populas Pays for over 94% of ALL Taxs! Toss in Corperation Taxs and what-not, thats NOT the case in Germany or Canadia, Half of thier popluas is NOT effectly Tax deadweights

That i did not know. Editing platform

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2003-01-02 06:26pm

Alyrium Denryle wrote: He was in 8th grade at 4'5 and about 80 lbs

He arched his head around Jams's neck, chewed on his throut, when James fell over, Russell slamed Jamse's head into the concrete repeatedly. All that because james took russells stuffed cow

I like him. acts like a dinosaur and appreciates cows. Cool.

Be careful he doens't ever run against yu, otherwise you've lost my vote.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-01-02 06:31pm

Oh and he has this thing for collecting souls. freshman year he went around buying peoples souls. Paid them 20 bucks and they signed a contract promising him their soul. he still has the laminated contracts.

He also tries to "eat peoples brains for power" as he puts it. He got angry at Nick for insulting his girlfriend and gnawed on Nicks skull for 10 minutes, after overpowering him(nick is twice Russells size)

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2003-01-02 06:34pm

Liking this guy more and more. Id offer him mine, but I think the music rotted it...

Ether that or the science.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2003-01-02 06:34pm

Oh and he has this thing for collecting souls. freshman year he went around buying peoples souls. Paid them 20 bucks and they signed a contract promising him their soul. he still has the laminated contracts.

I have a few of those from my old HS Days, I had the Cops come to my house afterwords when some-one asked where I got the chickenblood(It was Ketchup and I though people could tell the diffrence)

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-01-02 06:35pm

innerbrat wrote:
Alyrium Denryle wrote: I am simply sick of seeing people with NO knowledge of evolution. " If we all came from monkeys, then why are there still monkeys" drives me insane.
You're sick of that? Tell me about it.

But I did allopatric/parapatric/sympatric speciation as part of A level biology.
Evolution covers the sciences of of biology; geology (which I wasn't taught at school); astrophsyics; genetics; biochemistry; embryology; phyogenetics; archaeology; anthropology.
It's a complex process, and can only be given to schoolkids in a 'lies to children' format. Knowledge of it shouldn't be compulsory, but refuting it without knowledge should be illegal.

Those three methods of speciation were taught in my AP Biology course in 11th grade. (APs being somewhat similar to A levels, though not totally).

Basic geology is usually taught in junior high school (as part of "Earth Science"), but I remember little of it now.

jaeger115 · Post by **jaeger115** » 2003-01-02 06:53pm

He also tries to "eat peoples brains for power" as he puts it. He got angry at Nick for insulting his girlfriend and gnawed on Nicks skull for 10 minutes, after overpowering him(nick is twice Russells size)

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-01-02 06:58pm

jaeger115 wrote:
He also tries to "eat peoples brains for power" as he puts it. He got angry at Nick for insulting his girlfriend and gnawed on Nicks skull for 10 minutes, after overpowering him(nick is twice Russells size)

And yes, Russell is my BEST FRIEND, but we are getting off topic, he will be my running mate.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-01-02 07:15pm

In that case, I will not vote for you. Your friend sound mentally unstable and I will not risk placing a lunatic(as opposed to simply stupid) in the White House.

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2003-01-02 07:19pm

I'm sure you would be an honest and trustworthy president, but I'm not sure if your campaign will get the support of many Americans, especially in the South. I would be undecided, and it would depend on who was running against you.

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